the only way riccardo will catch hamilton is if roseberk keeps on deliberately crashing into him.....otherwise riccardo has no chance but 3rd

Daniel Ricciardo is quite clearly the better Red Bull driver and does not need team orders.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 8 minutes ago
Daniel Ricciardo is quite clearly the better Red Bull driver and does not need team orders.


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good evening wt

you are missing the point wt -- with the lead and the car advantage that the mercedes driver"s have over red bull riccardio will need every advantage that red bull can give him if he is to stand a chance of catching the two merc drivers ,
------- and the deployment of team orders in his favour with vettel as rear gunner holding up the merc drivers at every opportunity for the next 7 races is an incredibly useful weapon to have in his armoury on a number of levels for the next 7 races -

Sebastian Vettel does not have the driving skill to hold up another car. He could of course crash into it. Is that what you meant by team orders?

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sebastian Vettel does not have the driving skill to hold up another car. He could of course crash into it. Is that what you meant by team orders?
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lets not get carried away wt ,
----- all these drivers are highly skilled and have come up thru all the formulas and are immensely proficient at making there car bigger than an elephants ar/se end on the track if they have to on the track -

Martial. Can i have some evidence that rosberg is as quick as hamilton in races. Il help, bahrain, he was quicker

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 40 seconds ago
Martial. Can i have some evidence that rosberg is as quick as hamilton in races. Il help, bahrain, he was quicker
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how do you expect me to provide that --- have they not been fairly evenly matched these last few races --

U say it clearly in ur article. The way i see it is hamilton is blitzing him on speed

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 1 minute ago
U say it clearly in ur article. The way i see it is hamilton is blitzing him on speed
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sky must put a different race on my tele every 2 weeks then bruv

Haha actually, ive been thinking that all along

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No need for team orders, Ricciardo is doing it all by himself.

I think you will also find that Vettel exceeding the track limits again caused his problems today. Again he cannot manage the tyres as well as his team mate.

It has been a constant the whole season

comment by MUDD - me and Wazza are tight. (U9612)
posted 11 minutes ago
No need for team orders, Ricciardo is doing it all by himself.

I think you will also find that Vettel exceeding the track limits again caused his problems today. Again he cannot manage the tyres as well as his team mate.

It has been a constant the whole season
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you are missing the point again manx --- whatever the reasons for vettels miserable season his season is now over -
-------- so my topic asked the question whether or not red bull will deploy team orders in which to aid riccardo as without them probably catching rosberg for the championship would be a step to far for him in the slower RB10 --

You are missing the point martial. Ricciardo does not need team orders. Vettel really cannot help him as he's too far behind to do anything.

So suggesting they use team orders is pointless

comment by MUDD - me and Wazza are tight. (U9612)
posted 10 minutes ago
You are missing the point martial. Ricciardo does not need team orders. Vettel really cannot help him as he's too far behind to do anything.

So suggesting they use team orders is pointless
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do you know what team orders actually means manx ?

in reality it means vettel will not be allowed to fight DR or more importantly take points of him in any of the next 7 races
---- it also means that vettel will also act as rear gunner for DR and hold up the 2 mercs at every opportunity in the next 7 races to enable DR to score as many points as he can in the remaining races -

make no mistake team orders is a valuable weapon to have in your favour and has helped many drivers to many championships --

I don't think Hamilton is vulnerable to Ricciardo tbh. But the young Aussie is having a fine season

Martial, I know what team orders mean and how they are applied. I think you are the one struggling to understand what they mean.

For example, for Seb to help Daniel he would need to be able to take points off the Mercs, hold them up or not beat Ricciardo.

He is not doing any of those things so trying to introduce team orders will have no effect except redbull are looking to hold off the Ferrari's, WIlliams, etc in the constructors.

It is generally not wise to just throw words around without thinking them through as you have done. Seb is having no effect on Ricciardo's races as he's being roundly destroyed by Ricciardo and Seb has not got within a whisker of threatening the mercs so he cannot help him in the championship as well.

Perhaps you should try and understand the situation before postulating something which truth be told is a ridiculous and baseless argument

comment by MUDD - me and Wazza are tight. (U9612)
posted 16 minutes ago
Martial, I know what team orders mean and how they are applied. I think you are the one struggling to understand what they mean.

For example, for Seb to help Daniel he would need to be able to take points off the Mercs, hold them up or not beat Ricciardo.

He is not doing any of those things so trying to introduce team orders will have no effect except redbull are looking to hold off the Ferrari's, WIlliams, etc in the constructors.

It is generally not wise to just throw words around without thinking them through as you have done. Seb is having no effect on Ricciardo's races as he's being roundly destroyed by Ricciardo and Seb has not got within a whisker of threatening the mercs so he cannot help him in the championship as well.

Perhaps you should try and understand the situation before postulating something which truth be told is a ridiculous and baseless argument
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you are not seeing the wider picture manx -- vettel is having bad luck at just about every race and without that bad luck maybe would have beaten DR in a few races as he did in germany -

the point i am making that you cannot see is that very likely he will not always have bad luck and very maybe in a position to beat DR and take points from DR in a few of the remaining 7 races
---------- are you now paying attention ?

if red bull deploy team orders vettel will not be allowed to challenge or beat DR as he maybe could do if ever his bad luck ends and hence that will ensure that DR obtains every available point he can without the threat of vettel ever taking valuable points from him in so doing this will add to riccardios total at the end of the season that may help him to have more points than either of the 2 mercs -

it is also very likely that if or when his bad luck ever does end he will have the occasional race from the next 7 races that he may be in a position to challenge or at the very least hold up the 2 mercs on the track which again will be a valuable help for DR with vettel acting as a holder upper / rear gunner for him -

--------- did you get all that sweet heart or do i have to explain it in minute detail for you again ABC fashion

Vettel should do the intelligent thing and understand his position in the food chain

Ricciardo>Vettel>Webber

vettel is having bad luck at just about every race and without that bad luck maybe would have beaten DR in a few races as he did in germany -

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You been smoking pipe of poppy!!

Vettel's a sensible guy. I don't think he'd have any problem helping out his team-mate now.

It's kind of uncanny how similar Ricciardo's rise is to Vettel's. Impressive in a Toro Rosso, moves to Red Bull and puts in incredible performances managing to beat a hugely dominant Brackley-based team.

Bet if he wins the title for the next 4 seasons there will be some very bitter people in 2018 claiming "he's not that good really".

Hobo that is actually not correct, the only similarities are that they came from Toro Rosso. RIcciardo does not crash into people, has better race craft and has adapted to a car he had less testing time than Seb and is beating the champion with ease.

Actually goes to prove the point that Vettel's not that good really.

Ricciardo is a world champion in the making and if we wins 10 titles, the only complaints would be, let someone else have a chance, not that he's not that good really. We can see how good he is and we can also see how good seb is too. Not that good really.

Seb has problems = bad luck
Webber has problems = meh

When's Seb's car has been good he has been destroyed more times than Ricciardo and the gap would be a lot larger if Ricciardo was not disqualified in Australia

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Martial, they do not need to deploy team orders. Ricciardo does not need them as he is beating Seb and Seb is not beating any mercs.

So it is pointless