Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
I'm not concerned just yet with what LVG is trying to do, only the standard of some of our players, which I'm going to continue to whinge and moan about until they are gone
Far too much emphasis was put on utds pre season form. Maybe Moyes wasn't the anti christ after all.
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
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Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
We have 8 players injured Holtby.
comment by HoltbyCity (U17197)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
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Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
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Carrick, Herrera, Smalling, Lingard, Kagawa, Shaw, Fellaini, plus Rojo doesn't have a work permit yet, RVP isn't fit, Evans has just returned from injury and Rafael seems to have disappeared
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - Mamma Mia Dia Maria!! (U11781)
posted 4 seconds ago
We have 8 players injured Holtby.
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Thanks
Who exactly? Im trying to figure out what your first team would be..obviously + Di Maria now.
Watched your game Sunday, thought it looked like pretty much first team, bar the midfield two^.
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by HoltbyCity (U17197)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
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Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Carrick, Herrera, Smalling, Lingard, Kagawa, Shaw, Fellaini, plus Rojo doesn't have a work permit yet, RVP isn't fit, Evans has just returned from injury and Rafael seems to have disappeared
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Double thanks got there first.
Lack of pace has been the biggest problem for me, that along with a severe lack of movement makes us incredibly easy to play against.
Injured at some point during the season, so far:
Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Shaw, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Ando, Kagawa, Lingard, RVP
I think there is more to it than injuries... But fúck me... that is alot of players, quite a few of which would be starters.
So its more like 3 first teamers that are out + shaw who hasn't played yet.
Not as bad as I thought / was led to believe, but Im guessing the squad injuries have exposed it even more.
Exactly, the only 2 CM's to not be injured so far this season have been Fletcher and Cleverley, all the injuries seem to be in Defence and Midfield which is our weakest area
If we picked our strongest team IMO and compared it to the XI that played against Sunderland I'd imagine only 6 would start
---------------De Gea-----------
Rafael---Jones--Smalling--Shaw
----Herrera-----Carrick----Di Maria---
-------------------Mata------------------
----------Rooney-----RVP--------------
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
This is our best squad in my opinion and I hate playing footballers out of their original position.
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 minute ago
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
------------
Terrible starting 11
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - hustla service (U2958)
posted 24 minutes ago
Injured at some point during the season, so far:
Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Shaw, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Ando, Kagawa, Lingard, RVP
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Who have the long absence? When do you expect the needed ones will come back so you'll have a good team again?
Evans/Ando already back, (surely must be fit and well-practiced, to be selected against MK Don). Kagawa, Smalling just injured I think.
So compared to the pre-season, only Shaw/Herrera are the apparent missing right? Unluckily, they're the two you bought to for your weak positions. But I don't think the players in those positions last season were too bad. As with previous season, you should have got 2 wins from last 3 games.
- "Tactics/Formation: you had a perfect pre-season tour, beating Madrid, Liverpool, Roma,... testing with all the current players with similar tactics. Now suddenly it's wrong?"
Yep. That coupled with the increased intensity of the other team.
comment by There's only One Matter: Long time reader, first time poster. (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 minute ago
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
------------
Terrible starting 11
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup
As LVG has told us, the squad is unbalanced, shot if confidence and learning a new way of playing (not a new formation).
We need a lot of players to leave and a lot to arrive for there to be any kind of cohesion and natural connections in playing styles.
We need to remember we are Manchester Utd, with or without Ferguson.
We need to learn how to play football and not just drag ourselves through a game to win. It worked under Fergy because there was a fear factor, an expectation that we would always score. The moment he left we lost all of that and teams new they could beat us. We have to win solely by playing the best football, which isn't going to happen for some time until the two problems above are solved.
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posted on 27/8/14
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
posted on 27/8/14
I'm not concerned just yet with what LVG is trying to do, only the standard of some of our players, which I'm going to continue to whinge and moan about until they are gone
posted on 27/8/14
Far too much emphasis was put on utds pre season form. Maybe Moyes wasn't the anti christ after all.
posted on 27/8/14
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
posted on 27/8/14
We have 8 players injured Holtby.
posted on 27/8/14
comment by HoltbyCity (U17197)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Carrick, Herrera, Smalling, Lingard, Kagawa, Shaw, Fellaini, plus Rojo doesn't have a work permit yet, RVP isn't fit, Evans has just returned from injury and Rafael seems to have disappeared
posted on 27/8/14
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - Mamma Mia Dia Maria!! (U11781)
posted 4 seconds ago
We have 8 players injured Holtby.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks
Who exactly? Im trying to figure out what your first team would be..obviously + Di Maria now.
Watched your game Sunday, thought it looked like pretty much first team, bar the midfield two^.
posted on 27/8/14
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by HoltbyCity (U17197)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mex- The Angel has landed (U6687)
posted 22 seconds ago
Lack of pace and quality, hopefully Di Maria and Herrera can add that, we also have the worst injury record in the whole of human kind
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you have injured atm?
I got Carrick, and Herrera, smalling now too? Any more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Carrick, Herrera, Smalling, Lingard, Kagawa, Shaw, Fellaini, plus Rojo doesn't have a work permit yet, RVP isn't fit, Evans has just returned from injury and Rafael seems to have disappeared
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Double thanks got there first.
posted on 27/8/14
Lack of pace has been the biggest problem for me, that along with a severe lack of movement makes us incredibly easy to play against.
posted on 27/8/14
Injured at some point during the season, so far:
Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Shaw, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Ando, Kagawa, Lingard, RVP
I think there is more to it than injuries... But fúck me... that is alot of players, quite a few of which would be starters.
posted on 27/8/14
So its more like 3 first teamers that are out + shaw who hasn't played yet.
Not as bad as I thought / was led to believe, but Im guessing the squad injuries have exposed it even more.
posted on 27/8/14
Exactly, the only 2 CM's to not be injured so far this season have been Fletcher and Cleverley, all the injuries seem to be in Defence and Midfield which is our weakest area
posted on 27/8/14
If we picked our strongest team IMO and compared it to the XI that played against Sunderland I'd imagine only 6 would start
---------------De Gea-----------
Rafael---Jones--Smalling--Shaw
----Herrera-----Carrick----Di Maria---
-------------------Mata------------------
----------Rooney-----RVP--------------
posted on 27/8/14
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
This is our best squad in my opinion and I hate playing footballers out of their original position.
posted on 27/8/14
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 minute ago
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
------------
Terrible starting 11
posted on 27/8/14
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - hustla service (U2958)
posted 24 minutes ago
Injured at some point during the season, so far:
Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Shaw, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Ando, Kagawa, Lingard, RVP
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who have the long absence? When do you expect the needed ones will come back so you'll have a good team again?
Evans/Ando already back, (surely must be fit and well-practiced, to be selected against MK Don). Kagawa, Smalling just injured I think.
So compared to the pre-season, only Shaw/Herrera are the apparent missing right? Unluckily, they're the two you bought to for your weak positions. But I don't think the players in those positions last season were too bad. As with previous season, you should have got 2 wins from last 3 games.
posted on 27/8/14
- "Tactics/Formation: you had a perfect pre-season tour, beating Madrid, Liverpool, Roma,... testing with all the current players with similar tactics. Now suddenly it's wrong?"
Yep. That coupled with the increased intensity of the other team.
posted on 27/8/14
comment by There's only One Matter: Long time reader, first time poster. (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 minute ago
--------------------De Gea
Rafael-----Smalling----Rojo-----Shaw
--------------Herrera----Jones
Di Marira----------Mata--------------Januzaj
--------------------Rooney
------------
Terrible starting 11
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup
posted on 27/8/14
As LVG has told us, the squad is unbalanced, shot if confidence and learning a new way of playing (not a new formation).
We need a lot of players to leave and a lot to arrive for there to be any kind of cohesion and natural connections in playing styles.
We need to remember we are Manchester Utd, with or without Ferguson.
We need to learn how to play football and not just drag ourselves through a game to win. It worked under Fergy because there was a fear factor, an expectation that we would always score. The moment he left we lost all of that and teams new they could beat us. We have to win solely by playing the best football, which isn't going to happen for some time until the two problems above are solved.
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