Thanks we know btw. It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing, but its panic time at OT as CL footy is huge, no time to wait for development.
We can take januzji fella of your hands, he would go straight into the ressies first though
Yeah been saying for a bit now, Sterling's going to be special. Would take him off their hands if I could have one player from Liverpool.
liverpool spent over 100M !
Liverpool spending doesn't count TCP, they were accusing United of buying the title for years whilst they were spending more!
He's definitely improving but I hope for the sake of his career the team is built around to his strengths like they are now. The team likes to play the ball on the floor, enjoys playing with wingers, attacks at speed etc.
He wouldn't get that at Manchester United at the moment.
Bias aside, he is a good player. Fact
Very good player it must be said.
Needs to start producing more, rather than promising to do so.
It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing
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Who was the last player to be a success from your youth team?
You bought Sterling from QPR, before you mention him.
Also second highest spenders in the prem this season.
Great player, has developed so much over the past 12 months and he's still a teenager.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 5 minutes ago
Needs to start producing more, rather than promising to do so.
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Raheem Sterling
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A great talent
He's gonna be a superstar
Outrageous talent.
He has to play on the wing though. His pace and ability is gonna destroy fullbacks for a decade or more
Motm by a mile tonighti
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 39 minutes ago
He's definitely improving but I hope for the sake of his career the team is built around to his strengths like they are now. The team likes to play the ball on the floor, enjoys playing with wingers, attacks at speed etc.
He wouldn't get that at Manchester United at the moment.
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Are you serious?
Robb, why does it pain you to say it? If Raheem does become world class, we'll just buy him.
I think it is testament to Rodger's faith and man management. In terms of base talent Januzaj and gnabry are really similar but great coaching (his tactical dexterity is impressive for a young English winger), technical improvements and PLAYING time has accelerated his development. I know Utd and Arsenal are trying to trade punches with the 'big spenders' but there is a lot of evidence that shows nurturing precocious attacking talent reaps huge rewards instead of endless loans where poor coaching and more cautious tactics cause the possible talent to wane
Shows how important playing regularly during such an important period of development is, especially when you have a manager who believes in you and allows you to flourish and express yourself.
I hope similar things can happen with Januzaj but right now he's a bit off Sterling in terms of development.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Shows how important playing regularly during such an important period of development is, especially when you have a manager who believes in you and allows you to flourish and express yourself.
I hope similar things can happen with Januzaj but right now he's a bit off Sterling in terms of development.
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Yes that's true. Unfortunately for you with the money you have spent and attacking players you have a youngster like Januzaj will probably be expected to prolong his apprenticeship.
It shows the dilemmas at a big club because chances shouldn't be afforded to youngsters often as that dilutes quality but Januzaj is definitely worth the plunge.
The only respite Utd probably have is a loan to a really competitive team with a manager of great tactical and management prowess. In the prem everton is the strongest team that May loan him but there are others that he could flourish in (Southampton and if he is willing to do it himself Newcastle) but European loans shouldn't be dismissed- top teams are willing to take anything from large English clubs these days.
Too class youth is the key component of most clubs. Without that you need large changes often which can really change the style if okay and while approach if the club- traditions are key for both the stature/symbolism and performances of a club
As you can see I take youth development seriously as I think it can keep you a top team but then again this could be the effect of 17 years of wenger!
*style of play and whole approach of the club
coq's blocks
True although I do think Januzaj has a good chance of games at United to develop, whether he gets enough is another matter. For selfish reasons I would rather keep him as I think he can help the squad but possibly for his own good a loan to good side where he is guaranteed games week in week out could be more beneficial to him. Regular game time at this stage of his career is crucial IMO.
manutd1982, his level of involvement probably in part depends on what system(s) LVG will use. Players with like him can learn from the wings and the no.10 position but wingback is physically draining and probably selfless with your strike force.
He could take the next step by being a bit-part player too as sometimes one is forced to perform amazingly with the limited chances one gets plus the benefit of too coaching/ training sessions.
I guess the rise of sterling shows us what can be. Coaxing talent out isn't easy but it is worth it. At arsenal I know we are seen as weaker by other top teams but of the exciting talents only Ramsey and Walcott are now performing regularly. Wilshere, ox, gnabry, chambers and bellerin are players we think can become top performers soon.
It's a shame for you that your talented defensive players have been left to fend for themselves as an experienced head/ top performer may have dragged the class out of jones and co sooner
People are ready writing him off for having games without any idea how LVG is going to set up his teams.
LVG has said he will work with the youth sides going forward but for now his priority has to be getting the first team competitive, and I agree. Januzaj can only improve working with the likes LVG mata and Di Maria and will get plenty if football in the coming seasons.
"It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing"
You brought Raheem Sterling
He has the potential to be world class, not something I say lightly. His run on the weekend was just phenomenal, it was a shame he had a brain fart and couldn't finish it.
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posted on 3/9/14
Thanks we know btw. It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing, but its panic time at OT as CL footy is huge, no time to wait for development.
We can take januzji fella of your hands, he would go straight into the ressies first though
posted on 3/9/14
Yeah been saying for a bit now, Sterling's going to be special. Would take him off their hands if I could have one player from Liverpool.
posted on 3/9/14
liverpool spent over 100M !
posted on 3/9/14
Liverpool spending doesn't count TCP, they were accusing United of buying the title for years whilst they were spending more!
posted on 3/9/14
He's definitely improving but I hope for the sake of his career the team is built around to his strengths like they are now. The team likes to play the ball on the floor, enjoys playing with wingers, attacks at speed etc.
He wouldn't get that at Manchester United at the moment.
posted on 3/9/14
Bias aside, he is a good player. Fact
posted on 3/9/14
Very good player it must be said.
posted on 3/9/14
Needs to start producing more, rather than promising to do so.
posted on 3/9/14
It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing
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Who was the last player to be a success from your youth team?
You bought Sterling from QPR, before you mention him.
posted on 3/9/14
Also second highest spenders in the prem this season.
posted on 3/9/14
Great player, has developed so much over the past 12 months and he's still a teenager.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 5 minutes ago
Needs to start producing more, rather than promising to do so.
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posted on 3/9/14
Raheem Sterling
--------------------------
A great talent
posted on 3/9/14
He's gonna be a superstar
Outrageous talent.
He has to play on the wing though. His pace and ability is gonna destroy fullbacks for a decade or more
Motm by a mile tonighti
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 39 minutes ago
He's definitely improving but I hope for the sake of his career the team is built around to his strengths like they are now. The team likes to play the ball on the floor, enjoys playing with wingers, attacks at speed etc.
He wouldn't get that at Manchester United at the moment.
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Are you serious?
posted on 3/9/14
Robb, why does it pain you to say it? If Raheem does become world class, we'll just buy him.
posted on 3/9/14
I think it is testament to Rodger's faith and man management. In terms of base talent Januzaj and gnabry are really similar but great coaching (his tactical dexterity is impressive for a young English winger), technical improvements and PLAYING time has accelerated his development. I know Utd and Arsenal are trying to trade punches with the 'big spenders' but there is a lot of evidence that shows nurturing precocious attacking talent reaps huge rewards instead of endless loans where poor coaching and more cautious tactics cause the possible talent to wane
posted on 3/9/14
Shows how important playing regularly during such an important period of development is, especially when you have a manager who believes in you and allows you to flourish and express yourself.
I hope similar things can happen with Januzaj but right now he's a bit off Sterling in terms of development.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Shows how important playing regularly during such an important period of development is, especially when you have a manager who believes in you and allows you to flourish and express yourself.
I hope similar things can happen with Januzaj but right now he's a bit off Sterling in terms of development.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes that's true. Unfortunately for you with the money you have spent and attacking players you have a youngster like Januzaj will probably be expected to prolong his apprenticeship.
It shows the dilemmas at a big club because chances shouldn't be afforded to youngsters often as that dilutes quality but Januzaj is definitely worth the plunge.
The only respite Utd probably have is a loan to a really competitive team with a manager of great tactical and management prowess. In the prem everton is the strongest team that May loan him but there are others that he could flourish in (Southampton and if he is willing to do it himself Newcastle) but European loans shouldn't be dismissed- top teams are willing to take anything from large English clubs these days.
Too class youth is the key component of most clubs. Without that you need large changes often which can really change the style if okay and while approach if the club- traditions are key for both the stature/symbolism and performances of a club
As you can see I take youth development seriously as I think it can keep you a top team but then again this could be the effect of 17 years of wenger!
posted on 3/9/14
*style of play and whole approach of the club
posted on 3/9/14
coq's blocks
True although I do think Januzaj has a good chance of games at United to develop, whether he gets enough is another matter. For selfish reasons I would rather keep him as I think he can help the squad but possibly for his own good a loan to good side where he is guaranteed games week in week out could be more beneficial to him. Regular game time at this stage of his career is crucial IMO.
posted on 3/9/14
manutd1982, his level of involvement probably in part depends on what system(s) LVG will use. Players with like him can learn from the wings and the no.10 position but wingback is physically draining and probably selfless with your strike force.
He could take the next step by being a bit-part player too as sometimes one is forced to perform amazingly with the limited chances one gets plus the benefit of too coaching/ training sessions.
I guess the rise of sterling shows us what can be. Coaxing talent out isn't easy but it is worth it. At arsenal I know we are seen as weaker by other top teams but of the exciting talents only Ramsey and Walcott are now performing regularly. Wilshere, ox, gnabry, chambers and bellerin are players we think can become top performers soon.
It's a shame for you that your talented defensive players have been left to fend for themselves as an experienced head/ top performer may have dragged the class out of jones and co sooner
posted on 4/9/14
People are ready writing him off for having games without any idea how LVG is going to set up his teams.
posted on 4/9/14
LVG has said he will work with the youth sides going forward but for now his priority has to be getting the first team competitive, and I agree. Januzaj can only improve working with the likes LVG mata and Di Maria and will get plenty if football in the coming seasons.
posted on 4/9/14
"It looks like utd are buying rather than nurturing"
You brought Raheem Sterling
He has the potential to be world class, not something I say lightly. His run on the weekend was just phenomenal, it was a shame he had a brain fart and couldn't finish it.
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