who cares??? he feels closely tied to England and its his opinion.. Guess your british and follow India. same standards.
He's an England player and England supporter but was getting booed by British Indians due to his parental background of Pakistan. He was well within his rights to say what he did.
And theres no such thing as british "born" asians. yer not Asian if yer "born" in England. You may come from an Asian decent.
And feel close ties to your familys background. But you cant be classed as Asian..
personally I don't care what or who people follow as long as they get enjoyment from that team/country/country winning
It's an entirely different thing you are comparing vinz....moeen is saying that fans are fickle, I.e. the same fans who support Birmingham and England in football then support India, YOU are questioning the right of players to choose who they play for. Your point makes no sense.
England - I know it's his opinion and it's fair enough. My point is he expects British Asians to support England, but has no issue with South African players playing for England - double standards.
Kash - yes, that was one aspect of his comments but at the end he said he wants all British Asians to be supporting England which is what this article is about.
Bantam - not really. Yes I am comparing playing for a country with supporting a country but the reason behind both is the same and that is where you were born. So it's the same principle.
The SA England players will always get brushed under the carpet. It is yes to an extent double standards however in this case we are talking about supporters.
A similar thing happened to Saj Mahmood a few years back from Pak supporters. It's just banter really.
Vinz if yer English born and support india. so be it.. Its good when you get hammered in the tests. ps please read my comment. there is no SUCH thing as british Asian. your either british or Asian.
Tell that to the government then england as when you need to fill in forms regarding ethnicity, there is always a choice of British Asian.
vinz.. well they are being PC. if I was born in china.. and my parents were English.. I wouldn't be british. work out what I would be? ill give you a week
Lets get to the point of the matter. Moeen ali, sees himself as English/British and theres sod all wrong with it.
If you yourself are british but see yerself as indian. that's your choice to. same goes for the England players who chose to play for England. even if the country is not of their birth.
Don't agree with Moeen at all. Fans have the right to support whosoever they wish. Those of us with an asian ethnicity have every right to support Pakistan / India.
However, I don't agree with pak fans having a go at saj mahmood for playing for England. Same happened with Ravi getting abuse from Indians for being a "traitor". That's out of order. Think we (asian fans) must realise is that these guys (Ravi, Moeen, monty and so on) are not eligible to play for pak / India.
Instead of giving them grief, it should be a reason for us to celebrate / feel a sense of achievement that guys with similar ethnicity as us are represented England
I don't think Moeen was saying you need to support England. I think it was more than hes from a Pakistani background and feels English more.
No crime in that..hes been with Worcester all his life nearly..
You can be something different to accepted norm.. no one should be placed into a certain catergory.
Moeen just gave an opinion from his side of the fence.
Bopara is totally English so is samit patel. and monty.
They have an indian background. Its only the Indians that seem to think they are indian. which they are clearly not.
He's well within his rights, as a britsh person with Asian decent Id like to see more support the country of there birth personally. But I guess unless your family has no interest in cricket, then you'll always likely to follow in your father (especiallys) footsteps and support Pakistan etc.
it can only be good that more people like Moeen Ali opt to represent england, in encouraging young Asian cricketers that you will get picked regardless of race
"...but the reason behind both is the same and that is where you were born. So it's the same principle."
Err, no its not. Its as different as chalk and cheese. Moeens made a choice just as the SA players made a choice. YOU, on the other hand, were talking about the fact that the English players spoke with 'SA accents" - so what?? That's a bigoted opinion about the fact that some English players had different accents (?) it makes no difference AT ALL how they speak!
ben stokes as a Geordie accent. is that against the rules?
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1108)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
He's an England player and England supporter but was getting booed by British Indians due to his parental background of Pakistan. He was well within his rights to say what he did.
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Lots of British expats in Spain support English team not Spanish team when it comes to football..
Would it be right for Moeen Ali to play for Pakistan?
Moeen wouldn't be considered for Pakistan. So not an issue.
Very quiet on Aussie cricket these days Duncan... You barely had the chance to overcome the defeat to mighty Zimbabwe.... And the Saffers annihilate your boys in the final with almost 10 overs to spare.
Second generation Indians and Pakistanis had mixed upbringing. But when it came to cricket most, if not all supported their parents country of birth.
Albion, why do you think some of these parents dident want to support England during the 70's?? And their children followed??
Agree it is a shame
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/778919.html
Pretty damning article on Indian fans yesterday towards Moeen Ali.
Pathetic but guess it gave the Indians something to look forward to day by day
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posted on 6/9/14
who cares??? he feels closely tied to England and its his opinion.. Guess your british and follow India. same standards.
posted on 6/9/14
He's an England player and England supporter but was getting booed by British Indians due to his parental background of Pakistan. He was well within his rights to say what he did.
posted on 6/9/14
And theres no such thing as british "born" asians. yer not Asian if yer "born" in England. You may come from an Asian decent.
And feel close ties to your familys background. But you cant be classed as Asian..
personally I don't care what or who people follow as long as they get enjoyment from that team/country/country winning
posted on 6/9/14
It's an entirely different thing you are comparing vinz....moeen is saying that fans are fickle, I.e. the same fans who support Birmingham and England in football then support India, YOU are questioning the right of players to choose who they play for. Your point makes no sense.
posted on 6/9/14
England - I know it's his opinion and it's fair enough. My point is he expects British Asians to support England, but has no issue with South African players playing for England - double standards.
Kash - yes, that was one aspect of his comments but at the end he said he wants all British Asians to be supporting England which is what this article is about.
posted on 6/9/14
Bantam - not really. Yes I am comparing playing for a country with supporting a country but the reason behind both is the same and that is where you were born. So it's the same principle.
posted on 6/9/14
The SA England players will always get brushed under the carpet. It is yes to an extent double standards however in this case we are talking about supporters.
A similar thing happened to Saj Mahmood a few years back from Pak supporters. It's just banter really.
posted on 6/9/14
Vinz if yer English born and support india. so be it.. Its good when you get hammered in the tests. ps please read my comment. there is no SUCH thing as british Asian. your either british or Asian.
posted on 6/9/14
Tell that to the government then england as when you need to fill in forms regarding ethnicity, there is always a choice of British Asian.
posted on 6/9/14
vinz.. well they are being PC. if I was born in china.. and my parents were English.. I wouldn't be british. work out what I would be? ill give you a week
Lets get to the point of the matter. Moeen ali, sees himself as English/British and theres sod all wrong with it.
If you yourself are british but see yerself as indian. that's your choice to. same goes for the England players who chose to play for England. even if the country is not of their birth.
posted on 6/9/14
Don't agree with Moeen at all. Fans have the right to support whosoever they wish. Those of us with an asian ethnicity have every right to support Pakistan / India.
However, I don't agree with pak fans having a go at saj mahmood for playing for England. Same happened with Ravi getting abuse from Indians for being a "traitor". That's out of order. Think we (asian fans) must realise is that these guys (Ravi, Moeen, monty and so on) are not eligible to play for pak / India.
Instead of giving them grief, it should be a reason for us to celebrate / feel a sense of achievement that guys with similar ethnicity as us are represented England
posted on 6/9/14
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posted on 6/9/14
I don't think Moeen was saying you need to support England. I think it was more than hes from a Pakistani background and feels English more.
No crime in that..hes been with Worcester all his life nearly..
You can be something different to accepted norm.. no one should be placed into a certain catergory.
Moeen just gave an opinion from his side of the fence.
Bopara is totally English so is samit patel. and monty.
They have an indian background. Its only the Indians that seem to think they are indian. which they are clearly not.
posted on 6/9/14
He's well within his rights, as a britsh person with Asian decent Id like to see more support the country of there birth personally. But I guess unless your family has no interest in cricket, then you'll always likely to follow in your father (especiallys) footsteps and support Pakistan etc.
it can only be good that more people like Moeen Ali opt to represent england, in encouraging young Asian cricketers that you will get picked regardless of race
posted on 6/9/14
"...but the reason behind both is the same and that is where you were born. So it's the same principle."
Err, no its not. Its as different as chalk and cheese. Moeens made a choice just as the SA players made a choice. YOU, on the other hand, were talking about the fact that the English players spoke with 'SA accents" - so what?? That's a bigoted opinion about the fact that some English players had different accents (?) it makes no difference AT ALL how they speak!
posted on 6/9/14
ben stokes as a Geordie accent. is that against the rules?
posted on 6/9/14
comment by (Kash) Coutinho's Through Ball - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1108)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
He's an England player and England supporter but was getting booed by British Indians due to his parental background of Pakistan. He was well within his rights to say what he did.
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posted on 6/9/14
Lots of British expats in Spain support English team not Spanish team when it comes to football..
posted on 6/9/14
Would it be right for Moeen Ali to play for Pakistan?
posted on 6/9/14
Moeen wouldn't be considered for Pakistan. So not an issue.
Very quiet on Aussie cricket these days Duncan... You barely had the chance to overcome the defeat to mighty Zimbabwe.... And the Saffers annihilate your boys in the final with almost 10 overs to spare.
posted on 7/9/14
Second generation Indians and Pakistanis had mixed upbringing. But when it came to cricket most, if not all supported their parents country of birth.
posted on 7/9/14
Which is a shame really
posted on 7/9/14
Albion, why do you think some of these parents dident want to support England during the 70's?? And their children followed??
Agree it is a shame
posted on 8/9/14
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/778919.html
Pretty damning article on Indian fans yesterday towards Moeen Ali.
posted on 8/9/14
Pathetic but guess it gave the Indians something to look forward to day by day
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