Its called sportsmanship and the two drivers mentioned are severely lacking. You don't crash into your team mate to prove a point.

Booing has been in f1 for donkeys years. I'm not really the booing sort but I understand why more passionate people show displeasure by booing. It's only the arrival of social media that has tricked people into thinking many things are new. It wasn't shoved in our faces like it is now, impossible to be ignorant these days

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Booing has been in f1 for donkeys years. I'm not really the booing sort but I understand why more passionate people show displeasure by booing. It's only the arrival of social media that has tricked people into thinking many things are new. It wasn't shoved in our faces like it is now, impossible to be ignorant these days
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must admit nsix i have been to quite a few races and never heard any real booing as such certainly not on mass for one particular driver as we had last season spreading from country to country
-- that to me is a first and to be honest i am at a loss to think of any kind of intelligent reason for it , hence why i put it down to gullible people being influenced by there tabloid comics -

I take it you missed the boos at Indianapolis when only the bridgestone shod cars raced and the boos Ferrari received for team order gate with Schumacher and Barichello in Austria.

Sports fans in all sports boo to show their displeasure and in Seb and Nico's case they booed because of what both drivers did. Nico was quick to blame the british Belgians so I guess the British italians booed him as well.

People pay good money to watch a sport and will voice their displeasure, does not make them fickle or dumb.

It is unfortunate that you think people are being influenced by tabloids not driver antics. That is very unfortunate.

Not sure you can really blame the media for the booing Martial, you can probably blame them for making it very much in our faces and over the top but at the end of the day people can do what they want (within reason).

Booing is the opposite of cheering, would you blame cheering on the tabloids? Would we all sit in the stands giving polite applause at the end otherwise

The recent booing has been for unsporting behaviour and people basically annoyed at domination. There was plenty of booing around during your driver of choices era, Senna. There was just no internet to fed the wums back then

To be honest, i feel your a little sad if you boo and take your self seriously. If you boo, and it just all part of the pantomime then for me it adds to the spectacle. Creates some theatre

Martial, I note you are an Arsenal fan and also a football fan. Do you harbour the same views about booing in football as I not Arsenal fans boo their team a lot, even in pre-season.

Is that tabloid driven too?

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 11 hours, 47 minutes ago
I take it you missed the boos at Indianapolis when only the bridgestone shod cars raced and the boos Ferrari received for team order gate with Schumacher and Barichello in Austria.

Sports fans in all sports boo to show their displeasure and in Seb and Nico's case they booed because of what both drivers did. Nico was quick to blame the british Belgians so I guess the British italians booed him as well.

People pay good money to watch a sport and will voice their displeasure, does not make them fickle or dumb.

It is unfortunate that you think people are being influenced by tabloids not driver antics. That is very unfortunate.
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thats exactly my point manx , the fans at the motor speedway had a very valid reason to boo as they were shortchanged out of a GP and the same with the ferrari team orders regime at the time that stunk , both very valid reasons to show genuine displeasure -

my point is i can see no real valid reason that stand up to close scrutiny why vettel was subjected to it in various countries as was rosberg
----- as i said i seriously see no valid intelligent reason for it and was genuinely interested as to why ?

Personally, I would never boo anyone.

However, I can not fathom out why the cause of such behaviour is blamed on the newspapers that reported it after it had taken place.

This article must have been created by Rip Van Winkle.

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
Not sure you can really blame the media for the booing Martial, you can probably blame them for making it very much in our faces and over the top but at the end of the day people can do what they want (within reason).

Booing is the opposite of cheering, would you blame cheering on the tabloids? Would we all sit in the stands giving polite applause at the end otherwise

The recent booing has been for unsporting behaviour and people basically annoyed at domination. There was plenty of booing around during your driver of choices era, Senna. There was just no internet to fed the wums back then
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i dunno nsix , the media can be very influential in forming people"s opinions about things especially if the people concerned are gullible to begin with -

what exactly was the catalyst for people booing vettel in several different countries -- was there one that warranted that kind of displeasure at a driver , the same goes for rosberg ,
-------- what exactly were two different sets of fans in two different countries actually booing him for , surely not for a racing accident , are some fans really that ignorant now ?

must admit i went to quite a few races during the mid 80s - early 90s and to be honest none of the top drivers that i noticed were really booed by a large crowd - i witnessed the odd cheer when a driver broke down or fell off the track but mass booing was never really prevalent from my experience at the races i attended --

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
To be honest, i feel your a little sad if you boo and take your self seriously. If you boo, and it just all part of the pantomime then for me it adds to the spectacle. Creates some theatre
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i can see where you are coming from but my topic asked the question as to why it has suddenly crept into F1 --

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
Martial, I note you are an Arsenal fan and also a football fan. Do you harbour the same views about booing in football as I not Arsenal fans boo their team a lot, even in pre-season.

Is that tabloid driven too?
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again i can understand the reasons why the fans show there displeasure at arsenal and wenger , i dont always agree but i can understand the reasons why they do it and maybe the reasons have some validity ---

to me the issues with vettel and rosberg are not so obvious as they are with arsenal --

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 16 minutes ago
Personally, I would never boo anyone.

However, I can not fathom out why the cause of such behaviour is blamed on the newspapers that reported it after it had taken place.

This article must have been created by Rip Van Winkle.


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i am asking for people"s opinions on the topic that is why i created the topic ,
------maybe the tabloid papers are part of a wider social picture maybe they are not --

------ do you actually have an opinion on the subject matter of the topic that is worthy of deliberation i am sure we would all like to hear it

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
To be honest, i feel your a little sad if you boo and take your self seriously. If you boo, and it just all part of the pantomime then for me it adds to the spectacle. Creates some theatre
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i can see where you are coming from but my topic asked the question as to why it has suddenly crept into F1 --



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It hasnt

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/13/sports/auto-racing-crowd-boos-as-teammate-lets-schumacher-win.html

2002

Think you've been missing using the gullible tabloid comment Martial. It would seem you are the gullible one in thinking that booing is a new phenomenon in F1.

Irony? perhaps

Drivers get booed for all sorts of reasons, some more fairly that others. I can't think of anyone who's ever been booed for no reason.

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 19 hours, 35 minutes ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/13/sports/auto-racing-crowd-boos-as-teammate-lets-schumacher-win.html

2002
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you are missing the point of the topic , we covered the ferrari team orders farce earlier as it was plainly deserved and obvious why the fans booed schumacher and ferrari at austria 02 -

the point of the topic was to ask why has it suddenly crept into F1 these last two yrs when there is no real intelligent , logical obvious reason that leaps out at anybody

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 17 hours, 5 minutes ago
Think you've been missing using the gullible tabloid comment Martial. It would seem you are the gullible one in thinking that booing is a new phenomenon in F1.

Irony? perhaps

Drivers get booed for all sorts of reasons, some more fairly that others. I can't think of anyone who's ever been booed for no reason.
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you are missing the point nsix ---

there is no intelligent obvious reason why it has suddenly crept into F1 with mass booing that has been plainly obvious these last 2 yrs -
---- the point of my topic was to ask why , are certain sections of fans just more ignorant now ? is there ignorance fueled by there tabloid beano ? or is there a wider picture that we are missing --

You're going to have to swing that by me again Martial, what point am I missing? I fear you've not actually read anything I've said since your explanation on the 'point' seems to suggest you didn't even take in what I posted

For someone so observant you seem to be missing things left right and centre at the moment chap

martial artist (U9033)

You have quite clearly raised a deeply philosophical point.

Although I studied symbolic logic, as part of my professional qualification, I would be grateful if you, as a logical person, would educate me further on the concept.

If we hear something then it exists?

But if we don't hear it then it does not exist?

So, we hear booing at races = it exists.
We do not hear booing at races = it never happened.

We can only go by what we hear?

OK - If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 10 minutes ago
You're going to have to swing that by me again Martial, what point am I missing? I fear you've not actually read anything I've said since your explanation on the 'point' seems to suggest you didn't even take in what I posted

For someone so observant you seem to be missing things left right and centre at the moment chap
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you know me nsix , there is not alot escapes my scalpel sharp senses -

what didnt you actually understand when i highlighted the last two yrs that the mass booing has crept into the sport for no apparent reason -
------ apart from the rare isolated incident when the reason was obvious when have we ever known it go on for multiple races for no apparent reason --

Sorry Martial but it seems both the truth and my comments have escaped your attention, you may want to get those senses checked up

You claim to be a avid long term fan of F1 yet seem blissfully unaware that booing has been around in the sport for donkeys years? You seem to have been caught hook line and sinker by the wumming quarters of the press who like to sensationalise everything. I'm sorry but it doesn't take much to think of many a booing in the past so I tend not to get pulled in by these tabloid sensationalist stories

The booing this year has been for reasons as obvious as last year. I may not fully agree with those reasons but I can see why people are booing. They can do what they want in my mind, they paid to be there and are showing passion. Theres a line that shouldn't be crossed obviously but I'm not going to chastise people for showing passion.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 15 minutes ago
martial artist (U9033)

You have quite clearly raised a deeply philosophical point.

Although I studied symbolic logic, as part of my professional qualification, I would be grateful if you, as a logical person, would educate me further on the concept.

If we hear something then it exists?

But if we don't hear it then it does not exist?

So, we hear booing at races = it exists.
We do not hear booing at races = it never happened.

We can only go by what we hear?

OK - If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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oh i see what you are saying wt -- if we dont hear booing then people are not booing -

if we do hear booing then people are booing , and if a tree falls down in a forest is it made of smoke if it does not make a noise

fluck me i better get on to stephen hawking to sort this one out

comment by N_six0six (U13776)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sorry Martial but it seems both the truth and my comments have escaped your attention, you may want to get those senses checked up

You claim to be a avid long term fan of F1 yet seem blissfully unaware that booing has been around in the sport for donkeys years? You seem to have been caught hook line and sinker by the wumming quarters of the press who like to sensationalise everything. I'm sorry but it doesn't take much to think of many a booing in the past so I tend not to get pulled in by these tabloid sensationalist stories

The booing this year has been for reasons as obvious as last year. I may not fully agree with those reasons but I can see why people are booing. They can do what they want in my mind, they paid to be there and are showing passion. Theres a line that shouldn't be crossed obviously but I'm not going to chastise people for showing passion.
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i dont doubt there has been the rare isolated cases of booing at the occasional race in the past , but to my knowledge it does not carry on for multiple races as it has done these last 2 yrs and my topic is asking the question why it has carried on for multiple races for the last 2 yrs -

---------- i cant really explain it any easier than that nsix --

Martial if there is no reason to boo, why are people booing?