Petr Cech, for example, has never really improved his kicking and coming off his line since he's been at Chelsea. That's in ten years of gaining experience at the highest level.
The only time I can think it has really been a big issue was under RDM and AVB, in particular.
If Chelsea were to stick with that way of playing Cech wouldn't have been the keeper they needed. I'm not saying this will be the case with De Gea, but it could be.
If we get a more commanding defence and don't play a high line then it probably won't matter too much. But if that doesn't happen and Van Gaal and his successor are looking to create a style of play like Bayern, for example, then De Gea could be a weakness in the side if he doesn't improve coming off his line.
Will be interesting to see how he does for Spain.
Darren
I wasn't saying you weren't really, just what I felt. Not all players reach their potential because of multiple factors but I'm confident with De Gea.
He's the last of our worries right now and I'm perfectly happy seeing him in our goal and hope he continues being our #1 for many years to come. Is he better than Courtois, who cares, he's still a brilliant keeper and one who is more than capable of being a United keeper.
Lets just hope we can sort out our defence over the next 12 months which is still a mess and not really helping De Gea. Rafael has looked good so far and Shaw had a great game on Sunday as did Smalling coming back into such a big game. But I'm still unconvinced with Rojo, I feel LVG made the mistake of concerning himself too much with needing a left side CB to play in a back 3 which he now seems to have completely abandoned. While Jones is too injury prone and Evans never quite looks good enough.
1982, fair comments.
Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of De Gea as well. But I'm still concerned that he's not dominating his area because given our defensive problems it's exposing him in some game.
The thing that annoys me the most is that he's not coming off his line enough, be it for long balls or one on ones. It's the only criticism I have of him. Because beyond that he's a very good keeper.
I thought he was beginning to come off his line a lot more at the beginning of the season but he let in so many goals (mostly not his fault) that maybe he's decided against it recently.
Like you said earlier, a lot depends on how he is being instructed.
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He is a very poor decision maker, possesses a very poor sense of spatial awareness, has no authority with his own defence, even less over the opposition and he lacks footballing intelligence. So he is certainly not a "genius".
'Luck' has so far favoured him, and that is very worrying, that will not last and the club will suffer.
I do despair when the infants rave about his "shot stopping", that's his job for goodness sake, and at that he is no better than any of about 50 other gks across Europe. Any potential gk that came to me for a job as the no 1 would get short shrift from me, and shown the door, if he/she had "shot stopper" at the top of their CV.
Coco really is a clown, one of the weak links in the team, and time will gradually allow that to dawn on the console basing fantasists.
What i know IamME is that unlike you,Coco is no loco!
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posted on 28/10/14
Petr Cech, for example, has never really improved his kicking and coming off his line since he's been at Chelsea. That's in ten years of gaining experience at the highest level.
The only time I can think it has really been a big issue was under RDM and AVB, in particular.
If Chelsea were to stick with that way of playing Cech wouldn't have been the keeper they needed. I'm not saying this will be the case with De Gea, but it could be.
If we get a more commanding defence and don't play a high line then it probably won't matter too much. But if that doesn't happen and Van Gaal and his successor are looking to create a style of play like Bayern, for example, then De Gea could be a weakness in the side if he doesn't improve coming off his line.
Will be interesting to see how he does for Spain.
posted on 28/10/14
Darren
I wasn't saying you weren't really, just what I felt. Not all players reach their potential because of multiple factors but I'm confident with De Gea.
He's the last of our worries right now and I'm perfectly happy seeing him in our goal and hope he continues being our #1 for many years to come. Is he better than Courtois, who cares, he's still a brilliant keeper and one who is more than capable of being a United keeper.
Lets just hope we can sort out our defence over the next 12 months which is still a mess and not really helping De Gea. Rafael has looked good so far and Shaw had a great game on Sunday as did Smalling coming back into such a big game. But I'm still unconvinced with Rojo, I feel LVG made the mistake of concerning himself too much with needing a left side CB to play in a back 3 which he now seems to have completely abandoned. While Jones is too injury prone and Evans never quite looks good enough.
posted on 28/10/14
1982, fair comments.
Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of De Gea as well. But I'm still concerned that he's not dominating his area because given our defensive problems it's exposing him in some game.
The thing that annoys me the most is that he's not coming off his line enough, be it for long balls or one on ones. It's the only criticism I have of him. Because beyond that he's a very good keeper.
posted on 28/10/14
I thought he was beginning to come off his line a lot more at the beginning of the season but he let in so many goals (mostly not his fault) that maybe he's decided against it recently.
Like you said earlier, a lot depends on how he is being instructed.
posted on 28/10/14
posted on 28/10/14
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posted on 28/10/14
He is a very poor decision maker, possesses a very poor sense of spatial awareness, has no authority with his own defence, even less over the opposition and he lacks footballing intelligence. So he is certainly not a "genius".
'Luck' has so far favoured him, and that is very worrying, that will not last and the club will suffer.
I do despair when the infants rave about his "shot stopping", that's his job for goodness sake, and at that he is no better than any of about 50 other gks across Europe. Any potential gk that came to me for a job as the no 1 would get short shrift from me, and shown the door, if he/she had "shot stopper" at the top of their CV.
Coco really is a clown, one of the weak links in the team, and time will gradually allow that to dawn on the console basing fantasists.
posted on 28/10/14
What i know IamME is that unlike you,Coco is no loco!
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