comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
They don't have stadiums suitable atm
- They have a highly successful Qatari league which includes stadium's believe it or not. With it being the world cup they want to build bigger and better stadiums with some being dismantled after WC and donated to poor countries
Women must be covered in public
- You clearly haven't been to Doha have you.
No alcohol
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The weather is unsuitable
- Moving to winter now. The vast majority of nations are happy with that move other than the Great British.
Their team would take the spot of one much better for the neutrals
- They have 8 years to prepare a side.
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Have you any idea of the size of stadia??
Other than the national stadium (40,000 cap) grounds are ikin to Division One and are in no way suitable to host WC games.
A bit surreal debating Qatar with someone who is of the opinion that they are anyway suitable to host the WC, as other than FIFA was not aware there was any other support for it.
Building new stadiums is hardly a new concept is it? Japan/S Korea the vast majority were new stadium as was the case in SA and Brazil. Even Germany introduced multiple new stadiums.
If we pulled out of FIFA & didn't go to Qatar...
Would it matter...?
Would it set a precedent for others to follow...?
We're looking to pull out of the European Union, so why not
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Kash
Stadia is one of a long long line of reasons why Qatar is not suitable. Even FIFA themselves failed them - before burying their own information.
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TBH a bigger problem for me than no alcohol is no weed...
I think we should only play world cups in countries with legalised weed....
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We haven't had a Uruguay one for a while either
Might be somewhere like Indonesia as well, perfect IMO
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
Kash
Stadia is one of a long long line of reasons why Qatar is not suitable. Even FIFA themselves failed them - before burying their own information.
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There was 4 bidding countries:
Japan - Being greedy having just had one in 2002
USA - 1994 was a okay WC and they came 2nd in the votes. The actual bid had no wow factor.
Australia - By all accounts was a poorly presented bid. Had they put more effort in it they could have been in with a chance.
Qatar - Had the wow factor. Taking the WC to a new football mad region. Easily the best bid out of the 4.Only issue was the heat but like Gary Neville said other day "so feckin what" just make allowances and move it to winter.
If Qatar was the best bid then they have nothing to worry about from a corruption investigation.
If the bid is redone, it will win again as it was the best one.
What's the problem?
The whole thing is farcical. To have a lawyer who was effectively brought in to not even do the proper remit (not accepting any of the Sunday times evidence as his gathering period ended two days before it) then question the report on his already sanitised findings is just so absurd it beggars belief.
The Qatar bid has been debated on here a few times, my stance is that if they won it through bribery, it was corruption. If they won it because FIFA members really believed they were the best option, it was gross incompetence. Either way, FIFA are culpable.
FFS all this whinging about FIFA. Get over it. Britain don`t rule the waves no more. The whole world has moved on.
I`m as British as they come, but all this moaning about FIFA from the English does my head. The rdst of the world think it is hilarious in all probability.
The thing that gets me is that the remit would have been for a World Cup in the Northern Hemisphere summer. Qatar (even if you believe no srongdoing went on) won on that basis.
If they then move it to winter then shouldn't the countries have to bid again?
I've no issue with it going around the world but Qatar is really not a good choice.
Cut the crap all of you! None of you give a crap about corruption, this is all just about England didn't win the bid. You have no one fooled really!
comment by ☺ Wumpatröl - OK OK I admit it, he's too good for us. (U5046)
posted 1 minute ago
Cut the crap all of you! None of you give a crap about corruption, this is all just about England didn't win the bid. You have no one fooled really!
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I would have liked to have seen it in Australia.
They are a sport mad country and it would be a great visitor experience.
I'm Welsh so have no direct loyalty to the English bid but when you think where else it has been in Europe since 66 it should really be England's turn next.
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
SAF
You can all you want but you really can't hide the truth. Most of the discussions that happen here are always in relation to how England's bid was better blah blah blah sometimes even forgetting England didn't bid for the 2022 WC England, this, England that blah blah blah oh stfû!! The hypocricy is laughable
Well I am glad you do realise we didn't bid for it...
comment by johnhoppy. (U6774)
posted 14 minutes ago
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
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Selective reading. Every country who made a bid for 2018/22 were investigated and several were accused of wrong doing just like England.
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
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What's more, you can understand why the FA would have historical ties to the Carribean countries, wheres there's no link the Qatar and the African federation (unless I'm ignorant of something), so it reeks of bribery.
Well I am so disappointed that went over your head...
TBH I get sick of all the fifa bashing as well but your original post accused them all of just caring about the corruption because England's bid didn't win whilst clearly at least some of the posters would have known England's bid wasn't up against Qatar's already...
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - Witty Screen Name Pending (U2462)
posted 16 minutes ago
I would have liked to have seen it in Australia.
They are a sport mad country and it would be a great visitor experience.
I'm Welsh so have no direct loyalty to the English bid but when you think where else it has been in Europe since 66 it should really be England's turn next.
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If Australia had bothered to put some effort in their bid then they might have been in with a genuine chance. However their bid was terrible. My 7 year could have done a better job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzjfJtg3TA
Qatar on the other hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0Je0MLVI0
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posted on 13/11/14
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
They don't have stadiums suitable atm
- They have a highly successful Qatari league which includes stadium's believe it or not. With it being the world cup they want to build bigger and better stadiums with some being dismantled after WC and donated to poor countries
Women must be covered in public
- You clearly haven't been to Doha have you.
No alcohol
-
The weather is unsuitable
- Moving to winter now. The vast majority of nations are happy with that move other than the Great British.
Their team would take the spot of one much better for the neutrals
- They have 8 years to prepare a side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you any idea of the size of stadia??
Other than the national stadium (40,000 cap) grounds are ikin to Division One and are in no way suitable to host WC games.
A bit surreal debating Qatar with someone who is of the opinion that they are anyway suitable to host the WC, as other than FIFA was not aware there was any other support for it.
posted on 13/11/14
Building new stadiums is hardly a new concept is it? Japan/S Korea the vast majority were new stadium as was the case in SA and Brazil. Even Germany introduced multiple new stadiums.
posted on 13/11/14
If we pulled out of FIFA & didn't go to Qatar...
Would it matter...?
Would it set a precedent for others to follow...?
We're looking to pull out of the European Union, so why not
posted on 13/11/14
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posted on 13/11/14
Kash
Stadia is one of a long long line of reasons why Qatar is not suitable. Even FIFA themselves failed them - before burying their own information.
posted on 13/11/14
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posted on 13/11/14
TBH a bigger problem for me than no alcohol is no weed...
I think we should only play world cups in countries with legalised weed....
posted on 13/11/14
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posted on 13/11/14
We haven't had a Uruguay one for a while either
Might be somewhere like Indonesia as well, perfect IMO
posted on 13/11/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
Kash
Stadia is one of a long long line of reasons why Qatar is not suitable. Even FIFA themselves failed them - before burying their own information.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was 4 bidding countries:
Japan - Being greedy having just had one in 2002
USA - 1994 was a okay WC and they came 2nd in the votes. The actual bid had no wow factor.
Australia - By all accounts was a poorly presented bid. Had they put more effort in it they could have been in with a chance.
Qatar - Had the wow factor. Taking the WC to a new football mad region. Easily the best bid out of the 4.Only issue was the heat but like Gary Neville said other day "so feckin what" just make allowances and move it to winter.
posted on 13/11/14
If Qatar was the best bid then they have nothing to worry about from a corruption investigation.
If the bid is redone, it will win again as it was the best one.
What's the problem?
posted on 13/11/14
The whole thing is farcical. To have a lawyer who was effectively brought in to not even do the proper remit (not accepting any of the Sunday times evidence as his gathering period ended two days before it) then question the report on his already sanitised findings is just so absurd it beggars belief.
The Qatar bid has been debated on here a few times, my stance is that if they won it through bribery, it was corruption. If they won it because FIFA members really believed they were the best option, it was gross incompetence. Either way, FIFA are culpable.
posted on 13/11/14
FFS all this whinging about FIFA. Get over it. Britain don`t rule the waves no more. The whole world has moved on.
I`m as British as they come, but all this moaning about FIFA from the English does my head. The rdst of the world think it is hilarious in all probability.
posted on 13/11/14
The thing that gets me is that the remit would have been for a World Cup in the Northern Hemisphere summer. Qatar (even if you believe no srongdoing went on) won on that basis.
If they then move it to winter then shouldn't the countries have to bid again?
I've no issue with it going around the world but Qatar is really not a good choice.
posted on 13/11/14
Cut the crap all of you! None of you give a crap about corruption, this is all just about England didn't win the bid. You have no one fooled really!
posted on 13/11/14
comment by ☺ Wumpatröl - OK OK I admit it, he's too good for us. (U5046)
posted 1 minute ago
Cut the crap all of you! None of you give a crap about corruption, this is all just about England didn't win the bid. You have no one fooled really!
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posted on 13/11/14
I would have liked to have seen it in Australia.
They are a sport mad country and it would be a great visitor experience.
I'm Welsh so have no direct loyalty to the English bid but when you think where else it has been in Europe since 66 it should really be England's turn next.
posted on 13/11/14
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
posted on 13/11/14
SAF
You can all you want but you really can't hide the truth. Most of the discussions that happen here are always in relation to how England's bid was better blah blah blah sometimes even forgetting England didn't bid for the 2022 WC England, this, England that blah blah blah oh stfû!! The hypocricy is laughable
posted on 13/11/14
Well I am glad you do realise we didn't bid for it...
posted on 13/11/14
comment by johnhoppy. (U6774)
posted 14 minutes ago
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
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Selective reading. Every country who made a bid for 2018/22 were investigated and several were accused of wrong doing just like England.
posted on 13/11/14
Have any of you actually read the redacted report? Qatar gave CAF (African Federation) $1.8Million to subsidise their conference (including gala dinner) and this is considered to be hunky dory. Yet The FA assist the Caribbeans to the extent of £35000 its a violation of the rules. Hmmmm.
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What's more, you can understand why the FA would have historical ties to the Carribean countries, wheres there's no link the Qatar and the African federation (unless I'm ignorant of something), so it reeks of bribery.
posted on 13/11/14
Well I am so disappointed that went over your head...
posted on 13/11/14
TBH I get sick of all the fifa bashing as well but your original post accused them all of just caring about the corruption because England's bid didn't win whilst clearly at least some of the posters would have known England's bid wasn't up against Qatar's already...
posted on 13/11/14
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - Witty Screen Name Pending (U2462)
posted 16 minutes ago
I would have liked to have seen it in Australia.
They are a sport mad country and it would be a great visitor experience.
I'm Welsh so have no direct loyalty to the English bid but when you think where else it has been in Europe since 66 it should really be England's turn next.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Australia had bothered to put some effort in their bid then they might have been in with a genuine chance. However their bid was terrible. My 7 year could have done a better job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzjfJtg3TA
Qatar on the other hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0Je0MLVI0
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