You fancy backing up that one star with an actual comment ?

This is all about opinions afterall. I'm not saying I'm right, just giving my opinion.

"Lewis utterly dominated the 90's and early 00's which in hindisht was a golden era for Heavyweight boxing."

There's the flaw in your theory right there mate.



I can't think of a decent Indian heavyweight fighter

Corrected, cheers.

"Lewis utterly dominated the 90's and early 00's which in hindisht was a golden era for Heavyweight boxing."

There's the flaw in your theory right there mate.

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I think that the 90's is a very underrated era in Heavyweight boxing history.

With the exception of the 70's I can't think of many other better eras.

Hey if I'm wrong then please correct me. It would be better than all these essentially meaningless one stars.

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comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Boxing..................bored

Chose the wrong time to post it, hardly anyones around during the week, there's not even any Manny articles from D4

Might be the best 17st heavy but, at 14.5 against any of the top guys he gets outclassed,Marciano,Charles,Louis,Walcott even a fit archie moore. Yes a great giant of the ring but in the pantheon of greats even without foreman,frazier,ali he might make a top 10.

Not for me he has loses to average opponents which kind of makes him inconsistent, his best win is Holyfield who was 37 and past his best, tyson was in 2002 who's best years was the 80s, he makes the top 5 best but not the best, loses to mcCall and Rahman are massive negatives

The losses to McCall and Rahman can both be explained though. In both instances Lewis was simply caught with an unexpected great punch that knocked him out.

I don't think Lewis was in any danger of losing either fight up to that point. Also Lewis clearly didn't train well for the Rahman fight in South Africa and rucked up looking overweight and uninterested.

Either way Lewis avenged both of his defeats with ease so it's really not an issue for me.

best win is Holyfield who was 37 and past his best, tyson was in 2002 who's best years was the 80s

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It took Lewis a long time to be taken seriously in the Heavyweight division as a real contender and I go back to my point about him not being a Yank.

If Lewis was born American I believe we would have seen Lewis fight the likes of Tyson, Holyfield and maybe even Bowe much earlier in his career than he did.

Lewis had to do it the hard way which in my opinion only adds to his credibility.

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comment by spurgle5 (U4336)
posted 19 hours, 22 minutes ago
"Lewis utterly dominated the 90's and early 00's which in hindisht was a golden era for Heavyweight boxing."

There's the flaw in your theory right there mate.



I can't think of a decent Indian heavyweight fighter
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I love thatshit

I wouldn’t say Lewis was the best heavyweight ever (but then I like to sit on the fence).

I might argue that taken together he had perhaps the best set of attributes of any heavyweight:

Height, reach, size, mobility, defence, punch variety & repertoire, awesome jab, one punch knock out power, tactically aware, able to implement a game plan at the top level.

Best ever or whatever, all in all he was pretty special.

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With his losses to Rahman and McCall shows he lacked focus you don't see manny and floyd being hot like that from c level fighters

comment by The Guvnor V.I.K II-Frankenstein's Monster (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
Chin wasn't tested though

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comment by diamond (U18412)
posted 1 minute ago
With his losses to Rahman and McCall shows he lacked focus you don't see manny and floyd being hot like that from c level fighters

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So we agree the above fighters did test his chin and it was found wanting?? Or is it about any heavyweight in history would go over from the kind of shots landed in those two fights??

Also, is this more about application and concentration of said attributes, rather than a lack of attributes per se??

comment by Secsual Harassment Panda (U18716)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor V.I.K II-Frankenstein's Monster (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
Chin wasn't tested though

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comment by diamond (U18412)
posted 1 minute ago
With his losses to Rahman and McCall shows he lacked focus you don't see manny and floyd being hot like that from c level fighters

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So we agree the above fighters did test his chin and it was found wanting?? Or is it about any heavyweight in history would go over from the kind of shots landed in those two fights??

Also, is this more about application and concentration of said attributes, rather than a lack of attributes per se??

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In the Heavyweight division any fighter can get knocked down or out with a single punch. That's just the nature of the division and why historically it's always been the biggest draw of all the weight classes.

Yes Lewis got knocked out by McCall and Rahman, there's no getting away from that. But take into account that Lewis wasn't losing either fight up until the knockout.

In both fights he simply got hit with an absolute corker of a punch out of nowhere. Also let's not forget that Oliver McCall was a very capable fighter indeed when he wasn't suffering from his well known mental health issues.

Either way in both cases Lewis avenged both those losses with ease which pretty much nullifies them as stains on his record.

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Lennox Lewis is considered by many to the in the top 3 of all time great heavyweights, up with Ali and Louis

Had Vitali not ended up with that mad cut he'd have beaten Lewis.

He was edging ahead and he was getting stronger as the fight went on.

Oh dear, he got knocked out by average fighters like McCall and Rahman.

Got beaten by Mercer but got the decision.

Beat Holyfield who was well past his best.

Beat Tyson well, well past his best (Tyson lost to Danny Williams around those times).

Also, was losing on points to Vitali when the match had to be stopped because of cuts. Did they have a re-match, unfortunately Lewis retired.

In fact, you could argue that it's hard to even say he's a GREAT heavyweight, let alone the greatest ever.

But for the record, I do think he was great, but nowhere near the best ever.

comment by The Guvnor V.I.K II-Frankenstein's Monster (U12889)

posted 18 hours, 11 minutes ago

Reasons lewis isn't the best heavyweight ever:

1.His chin wasn't tested enough because of his style and when it was tested he came up short.He doesn't have the durability of the other heavyweight greats such as ali.

2.The era in which he fought didn't have the same type of talent as in the 70s.Ali plain and simple fought the better fighters.Lewis fought a past it holyfield and a well past it tyson.

3.He should have given vitali a rematch because he was losing that fight before the judges stopped it.Instead he retired.
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100% agree

He won the Olympic Gold Medal beating a pretty good heavyweight named Rid**** Bowe by stoppage. Sometimes that gets forgotten.

Went on to beat many good and very good heavyweights. His destruction of Razor Ruddock for example. Of course Bowe chickening out of an agreement to fight Lennox .

George Foreman and Micheal Moorer would never take on Lewis. Was like if u had anything to lose, u must avoid Lennox Lewis.

He beat Tony Tucker, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrsion, Shannon Briggs and then a slightly past it Evander Holyfield who Lewis schooled in their first fight and beat close the second time.

He goes on to destroy Micheal Grant and dominate David Tua. The Tyson fight was mostly something Lewis had to do to shutup some people. Ofcourse Tyson was only there that night for the $ and gave a good effort for about a round and a half.

knocked out twice and both times had the guts to climb back into the ring with the man who stopped him and reverse the result.

He goes out beating a pretty formidable fighter in Vitali, and whilst 58-56 pts down, he was cut twice ion his eye and once in his mouth. Injuries which if the fight continued would have ended Klits career.
Ppl seem to forget that fact, he butchered Klit like nobody else has.

Lennox is a top 3 heavyweight imo, ppl talk about Marciano etc (who Lennox would beat handily), yet Lennox beat better fighters.