Greaves played 4 seasons at Chelsea
I know we all think of Chelsea as having a better season than Spur in 2011/12 because of minor things like winning The FA Cup and that Mickey Mouse European trophy,
But Spurs clearly had the better season, because they finished 4th and Chelsea finished 6th.
What's more Spurs almost competed in the following season's Champions League as a result of that 4th place finishing.
Sorry I thought this was the "let's talk a bit of bollox" thread.
To be fair, in overall goal totals for the club, Drogba scored 157 times in 341 matches, while Greaves scored 132 in 169 which is quite frankly an absurd tally. I can never claim to have seen Greaves play for the club thanks to having been born 30 years later though I know of the legend. However, it can't be denied that Drogba was one of the greatest contributors to Chelsea's most succesful period in its history even if he wasn't the clubs most prolific player of all time
The Noble Lord Flash
Why are you trying to bring a perfectly good article about your greatest ever player down to your low level of debating. Now go away you silly man.
Different times Sandy,
I think even the keepers played up front in those days, score like 7-5 and 6-3 were common place every week.
However, Greaves still remains Chelsea greatest ever youth product, shame the rest of our team at the time was so cr.ap. He might of stayed a few more seasons if we wasnt at the bottom of the table
The Amazing Oscar Of Lucas Luiz and Ramires
I saw Greavsie play for Chelsea in the late 1950s, he was sensational even at 18, I saw him score a goal at WHL for Chelsea when he only had one boot on. He scored five goals, I think it was against Wolves, at Stamford Bridge one season, one of the goals he beat about half a dozen players. Simply the best.
tbf Sandy, you'll get no argument about this from me.
Fack me that's an impressive goal record. Never realised it was that good. But as WW said there were more goals in that era.
White Wall
Different times Sandy,
I think even the keepers played up front in those days, score like 7-5 and 6-3 were common place every week.
Hardly changed really, you get 5-0 or 7-0 away wins in the modern CL, which you never got in the old European Cup. It doesn`t matter the era, Greaves was out on his own as the greatest ever British goalscorer. In fact for career league goals around Europe I think he is still Number One, one goal in front of Gerd Muller, and a long way in front of both Ronaldo and Messi. So their is a case for making him Europe`s greatest ever goalscorer.
As much as Greaves sounds like a phenomenal player Drogba's ability to turn up for big matches is what i remember him for ahead of his goal tally
comment by Blarmy - Formerly CheG (U14547)
posted 13 seconds ago
As much as Greaves sounds like a phenomenal player Drogba's ability to turn up for big matches is what i remember him for ahead of his goal tally
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Greaves never got the chance to play any big games in that Chelsea team (unless you count a relegation battle)
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final. Ron Harris did manage to keep our Jim (by even his own admission) quiet most of the time. I think he only scored 4 times for Spurs against us. Considering he was such a goal machine against anybody else, you have to say that Ron did well.
Mind you it was brutal to watch
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✪ (U1561)
posted 24 seconds ago
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final. Ron Harris did manage to keep our Jim (by even his own admission) quiet most of the time. I think he only scored 4 times for Spurs against us. Considering he was such a goal machine against anybody else, you have to say that Ron did well.
Mind you it was brutal to watch
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for some reason I have that image of Vinny squeezing Gazza's nuts
Ron was the master of the black arts. After the first violent tackle he admits that he used to deliberately cough when he was right behind his victims, to put them off. It did seem to interfere with Greavsie's genius abilities.
how do those goal statistics prove he's our best ever player?
Would you even know he existed if he hadn't played for Spurs?
For me our best youth product is JT, but that's because i've had the good fortune to see him. But they played different positions.
We don't even know if Greaves would make it in this era. He liked the occasional shandy.
The Noble Lord Flash
how do those goal statistics prove he's our best ever player?
Would you even know he existed if he hadn't played for Spurs?
Of course I would you dipstick, I saw him play many times for Chelsea. If Greaves could score 357 goals with the occasional shandy, just think how good he would have been without the drink.
Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✪
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final.
I agree he did have a relatively quite final, but he had scored half a dozen goals on the route to the final, including a goal in the semi in a 2-1 win.
That George Best fella liked a shandy.
Probably rubbish though
I agree he did have a relatively quite final, but he had scored half a dozen goals on the route to the final, including a goal in the semi in a 2-1 win.
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As I said Sandy he was a goal machine against anybody else. He could do it at any level, including Internationals.
Drogba doesn't have an amazing scoring record because bar a couple of seasons, he didn't tend to even pitch up for the smaller games. In the big games though... his record in them is exceptional.
Harrys accountant
That George Best fella liked a shandy.
I love the way the modern players do all the right things, don`t smoke, don`t drink, have all the best facilities for training, get looked after by the best medics, and yet they are always fecking injured, and most can barely last 90 minutes once a week.
Can you compare a player from yesteryear with the athletes of today? Bit like apples and pears. Greavsie was a special player compared to most of his peers but he openly admitted at a charity auction I attended that he couldn't keep up with 'todays' players and that was 14 years ago. Skill wise, with a soggy, muddy heavy leather ball at his feet, few could match him although he would be too humble to admit it.
comment by ShortBack&Sides (U17757)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can you compare a player from yesteryear with the athletes of today? Bit like apples and pears. Greavsie was a special player compared to most of his peers but he openly admitted at a charity auction I attended that he couldn't keep up with 'todays' players and that was 14 years ago. Skill wise, with a soggy, muddy heavy leather ball at his feet, few could match him although he would be too humble to admit it.
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The modern players are not a patch on the oldies if the truth be told.
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It's not the truth it's your opinion. My opinion is that there were so many more goals back then because the defences and keepers were so bad.
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posted on 27/11/14
Greaves played 4 seasons at Chelsea
posted on 27/11/14
He's no Chris Sutton.
posted on 27/11/14
I know we all think of Chelsea as having a better season than Spur in 2011/12 because of minor things like winning The FA Cup and that Mickey Mouse European trophy,
But Spurs clearly had the better season, because they finished 4th and Chelsea finished 6th.
What's more Spurs almost competed in the following season's Champions League as a result of that 4th place finishing.
Sorry I thought this was the "let's talk a bit of bollox" thread.
posted on 27/11/14
To be fair, in overall goal totals for the club, Drogba scored 157 times in 341 matches, while Greaves scored 132 in 169 which is quite frankly an absurd tally. I can never claim to have seen Greaves play for the club thanks to having been born 30 years later though I know of the legend. However, it can't be denied that Drogba was one of the greatest contributors to Chelsea's most succesful period in its history even if he wasn't the clubs most prolific player of all time
posted on 27/11/14
The Noble Lord Flash
Why are you trying to bring a perfectly good article about your greatest ever player down to your low level of debating. Now go away you silly man.
posted on 27/11/14
Different times Sandy,
I think even the keepers played up front in those days, score like 7-5 and 6-3 were common place every week.
However, Greaves still remains Chelsea greatest ever youth product, shame the rest of our team at the time was so cr.ap. He might of stayed a few more seasons if we wasnt at the bottom of the table
posted on 27/11/14
The Amazing Oscar Of Lucas Luiz and Ramires
I saw Greavsie play for Chelsea in the late 1950s, he was sensational even at 18, I saw him score a goal at WHL for Chelsea when he only had one boot on. He scored five goals, I think it was against Wolves, at Stamford Bridge one season, one of the goals he beat about half a dozen players. Simply the best.
posted on 27/11/14
tbf Sandy, you'll get no argument about this from me.
posted on 27/11/14
Fack me that's an impressive goal record. Never realised it was that good. But as WW said there were more goals in that era.
posted on 27/11/14
White Wall
Different times Sandy,
I think even the keepers played up front in those days, score like 7-5 and 6-3 were common place every week.
Hardly changed really, you get 5-0 or 7-0 away wins in the modern CL, which you never got in the old European Cup. It doesn`t matter the era, Greaves was out on his own as the greatest ever British goalscorer. In fact for career league goals around Europe I think he is still Number One, one goal in front of Gerd Muller, and a long way in front of both Ronaldo and Messi. So their is a case for making him Europe`s greatest ever goalscorer.
posted on 27/11/14
As much as Greaves sounds like a phenomenal player Drogba's ability to turn up for big matches is what i remember him for ahead of his goal tally
posted on 27/11/14
comment by Blarmy - Formerly CheG (U14547)
posted 13 seconds ago
As much as Greaves sounds like a phenomenal player Drogba's ability to turn up for big matches is what i remember him for ahead of his goal tally
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Greaves never got the chance to play any big games in that Chelsea team (unless you count a relegation battle)
posted on 27/11/14
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final. Ron Harris did manage to keep our Jim (by even his own admission) quiet most of the time. I think he only scored 4 times for Spurs against us. Considering he was such a goal machine against anybody else, you have to say that Ron did well.
Mind you it was brutal to watch
posted on 27/11/14
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✪ (U1561)
posted 24 seconds ago
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final. Ron Harris did manage to keep our Jim (by even his own admission) quiet most of the time. I think he only scored 4 times for Spurs against us. Considering he was such a goal machine against anybody else, you have to say that Ron did well.
Mind you it was brutal to watch
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for some reason I have that image of Vinny squeezing Gazza's nuts
posted on 27/11/14
Ron was the master of the black arts. After the first violent tackle he admits that he used to deliberately cough when he was right behind his victims, to put them off. It did seem to interfere with Greavsie's genius abilities.
posted on 27/11/14
how do those goal statistics prove he's our best ever player?
Would you even know he existed if he hadn't played for Spurs?
For me our best youth product is JT, but that's because i've had the good fortune to see him. But they played different positions.
We don't even know if Greaves would make it in this era. He liked the occasional shandy.
posted on 27/11/14
The Noble Lord Flash
how do those goal statistics prove he's our best ever player?
Would you even know he existed if he hadn't played for Spurs?
Of course I would you dipstick, I saw him play many times for Chelsea. If Greaves could score 357 goals with the occasional shandy, just think how good he would have been without the drink.
posted on 27/11/14
Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✪
White Wall, he was (for him) comparitively quiet in the '67 final.
I agree he did have a relatively quite final, but he had scored half a dozen goals on the route to the final, including a goal in the semi in a 2-1 win.
posted on 27/11/14
That George Best fella liked a shandy.
Probably rubbish though
posted on 27/11/14
I agree he did have a relatively quite final, but he had scored half a dozen goals on the route to the final, including a goal in the semi in a 2-1 win.
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As I said Sandy he was a goal machine against anybody else. He could do it at any level, including Internationals.
posted on 27/11/14
Drogba doesn't have an amazing scoring record because bar a couple of seasons, he didn't tend to even pitch up for the smaller games. In the big games though... his record in them is exceptional.
posted on 27/11/14
Harrys accountant
That George Best fella liked a shandy.
I love the way the modern players do all the right things, don`t smoke, don`t drink, have all the best facilities for training, get looked after by the best medics, and yet they are always fecking injured, and most can barely last 90 minutes once a week.
posted on 27/11/14
Can you compare a player from yesteryear with the athletes of today? Bit like apples and pears. Greavsie was a special player compared to most of his peers but he openly admitted at a charity auction I attended that he couldn't keep up with 'todays' players and that was 14 years ago. Skill wise, with a soggy, muddy heavy leather ball at his feet, few could match him although he would be too humble to admit it.
posted on 27/11/14
comment by ShortBack&Sides (U17757)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can you compare a player from yesteryear with the athletes of today? Bit like apples and pears. Greavsie was a special player compared to most of his peers but he openly admitted at a charity auction I attended that he couldn't keep up with 'todays' players and that was 14 years ago. Skill wise, with a soggy, muddy heavy leather ball at his feet, few could match him although he would be too humble to admit it.
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posted on 27/11/14
The modern players are not a patch on the oldies if the truth be told.
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It's not the truth it's your opinion. My opinion is that there were so many more goals back then because the defences and keepers were so bad.
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