I can't stand either player but I'd have to say that for me Rio had a 2-3 year period when he was better than Terry, however I'd counter that and say that Terry has been more consistent throughout.
Considering their ages and how long they've been playing for, that Terry is among the best CB's in the league right now whereas Ferdinand isn't tips it in Terry's favour for me.
That's fair enough, I can see an argument for both. Obviously I am slightly biased but I think Rio was the better defender. He was world class up until 2-3 yrs ago. To say he was cráp is just utterly stupid
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
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Your opinion. Many would disagree
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
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Your opinion. Many would disagree
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Well they'd be wrong
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
United have more often been the best winners rather than the team with the best players or even the best team. Incredible really.
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Congratulations. You just won the award of most idiotic comment of 2014.
Not only did we win the league most seasons we outperformed all English sides majority of seasons in Europe.
We have had loads of top top players over the years and much more finer players than Arsenal that's for sure.
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Let me guess, you prefer Ronaldo over Messi too? (Not right now, where Ronaldo is obviously superior, but Ronaldo at his peak and Messi at his peak). Is Shearer better than Henry also?
United are famous for grinding out 1-0 wins without playing well and scoring goals in the fiftieth minute of added time.
You've often been the best side. But United has always tended to do that. You've rarely reached the level that Arsenal, and even Chelsea, sides have. Like I say, Arsenal tend to underperform for the quality they have and you overperform. You managed to win the league with Tom Cleverley pulling the strings.
As much as it pains me to say it, Terry is obviously better than Ferdinand. He's a racist, adulterous, nasty, unpleasant, bullying, elbowing prat of a player. But he's one of the very best England has ever seen.
There is an argument, though I hate to make it even more, that Sol Campbell is more worthy of inclusion than Mr Arsenal because of his career being PL only. He was very successful at both Tottenham and at Arsenal during the PL era whereas Adam's career started in 1983, and two of his league titles were before the PL era.
United are famous for grinding out 1-0 wins without playing well and scoring goals in the fiftieth minute of added time
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Really??? Since when. And that's coming from an Arsenal fan. I'm sure there is a song in there somewhere.
We've outscored arsenal pretty much every season for the last 15 yrs or so bar maybe a couple of seasons.
You've rarely reached the the level that Arsenal and even chelsea sides have
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Really? What level is that then? Is it winning the double inc CL or the treble level??
You talk utter bollox fella
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
Schmeichel
Rio
Terry
Stam
Ronaldo
Keane
Vieira
Scholes
Bale
Cantona
Henry
A few United fans keep coming up with Ferdinand being one of the best defenders in the world but lets not forget that Terry was also the best CB in the world at his peak where he was being voted in numerous UEFA team of the year's and FIFpro XI's.
He's the only defender (recently) that has won PFA player of the year. Just shows how good he is and how he's carried our back-line for over a decade.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
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I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
comment by Ledley's resurrection - Bonafide Football Manager legend and Wonderkid Hunter (U20121)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
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I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
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Neville is the only non-world class player there. There's a lack of alternative, as opposed to him being the best of the best.
The defense would be okay with Vieira and Scholes working in a partnership that'd be similar to a modern day Toure/Xabi one. Control being the watchword.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection - Bonafide Football Manager legend and Wonderkid Hunter (U20121)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
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I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
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Neville is the only non-world class player there. There's a lack of alternative, as opposed to him being the best of the best.
The defense would be okay with Vieira and Scholes working in a partnership that'd be similar to a modern day Toure/Xabi one. Control being the watchword.
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Hold up I just looked at the team again - C***bell? Automatic weak link.
Campbell was an awesome defender. Kind of forgotten by time due to his post-career madness and shouting "racist!" at lamp posts.
It's him or Adams.
Adams easily. That bitter fool isn't in the top 5.
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 minutes ago
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
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Or Woodgate or Radebe for that matter
comment by MARK. (U1449)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 minutes ago
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
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Or Woodgate or Radebe for that matter
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Or McGrath
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Whatever. Prejudices get in the way.
The gimmes for me (based on both talent and competition in that position) are Schmeichel, Cole, Rio, Ronaldo, and Henry.
There is a gluttony of centremid choices and both formation and tactics could see some in or out. A lot of competition at centreback as well.
I'd have Pires as the best 'winger' but if you include Suarez as a wide forward (Pires never really crossed the ball and effectively played wide forward cutting inside) then it's a semantic battle - I'd take Suarez personally or both.
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posted on 25/12/14
I can't stand either player but I'd have to say that for me Rio had a 2-3 year period when he was better than Terry, however I'd counter that and say that Terry has been more consistent throughout.
Considering their ages and how long they've been playing for, that Terry is among the best CB's in the league right now whereas Ferdinand isn't tips it in Terry's favour for me.
posted on 25/12/14
That's fair enough, I can see an argument for both. Obviously I am slightly biased but I think Rio was the better defender. He was world class up until 2-3 yrs ago. To say he was cráp is just utterly stupid
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
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Your opinion. Many would disagree
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
Definitely better than Terry imo
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lolno.
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What's so funny about saying Rio was better than Terry?
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Because he's not.
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Your opinion. Many would disagree
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Well they'd be wrong
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
United have more often been the best winners rather than the team with the best players or even the best team. Incredible really.
...........................
Congratulations. You just won the award of most idiotic comment of 2014.
Not only did we win the league most seasons we outperformed all English sides majority of seasons in Europe.
We have had loads of top top players over the years and much more finer players than Arsenal that's for sure.
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Let me guess, you prefer Ronaldo over Messi too? (Not right now, where Ronaldo is obviously superior, but Ronaldo at his peak and Messi at his peak). Is Shearer better than Henry also?
United are famous for grinding out 1-0 wins without playing well and scoring goals in the fiftieth minute of added time.
You've often been the best side. But United has always tended to do that. You've rarely reached the level that Arsenal, and even Chelsea, sides have. Like I say, Arsenal tend to underperform for the quality they have and you overperform. You managed to win the league with Tom Cleverley pulling the strings.
posted on 25/12/14
As much as it pains me to say it, Terry is obviously better than Ferdinand. He's a racist, adulterous, nasty, unpleasant, bullying, elbowing prat of a player. But he's one of the very best England has ever seen.
There is an argument, though I hate to make it even more, that Sol Campbell is more worthy of inclusion than Mr Arsenal because of his career being PL only. He was very successful at both Tottenham and at Arsenal during the PL era whereas Adam's career started in 1983, and two of his league titles were before the PL era.
posted on 25/12/14
United are famous for grinding out 1-0 wins without playing well and scoring goals in the fiftieth minute of added time
...............
Really??? Since when. And that's coming from an Arsenal fan. I'm sure there is a song in there somewhere.
We've outscored arsenal pretty much every season for the last 15 yrs or so bar maybe a couple of seasons.
You've rarely reached the the level that Arsenal and even chelsea sides have
...............
Really? What level is that then? Is it winning the double inc CL or the treble level??
You talk utter bollox fella
posted on 25/12/14
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
posted on 25/12/14
Schmeichel
Rio
Terry
Stam
Ronaldo
Keane
Vieira
Scholes
Bale
Cantona
Henry
posted on 25/12/14
A few United fans keep coming up with Ferdinand being one of the best defenders in the world but lets not forget that Terry was also the best CB in the world at his peak where he was being voted in numerous UEFA team of the year's and FIFpro XI's.
He's the only defender (recently) that has won PFA player of the year. Just shows how good he is and how he's carried our back-line for over a decade.
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
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I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Ledley's resurrection - Bonafide Football Manager legend and Wonderkid Hunter (U20121)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neville is the only non-world class player there. There's a lack of alternative, as opposed to him being the best of the best.
The defense would be okay with Vieira and Scholes working in a partnership that'd be similar to a modern day Toure/Xabi one. Control being the watchword.
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection - Bonafide Football Manager legend and Wonderkid Hunter (U20121)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Schmeichel
Neville, Campbell, Terry, Cole
Ronaldo, Vieira, Scholes, Pires
Bergkamp, Henry
Subs: Seaman/Cech, Adams, Lampard, Gerrard, Cantona, Shearer, Giggs
Cannot decide between Seaman and Cech, though my heart screams Seaman. Neville is obviously a weak link in an otherwise incredible side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't say there was a weak link in that side... Apart from the wingers possibly not doing a job defensively.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neville is the only non-world class player there. There's a lack of alternative, as opposed to him being the best of the best.
The defense would be okay with Vieira and Scholes working in a partnership that'd be similar to a modern day Toure/Xabi one. Control being the watchword.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hold up I just looked at the team again - C***bell? Automatic weak link.
posted on 25/12/14
Campbell was an awesome defender. Kind of forgotten by time due to his post-career madness and shouting "racist!" at lamp posts.
It's him or Adams.
posted on 25/12/14
Adams easily. That bitter fool isn't in the top 5.
posted on 25/12/14
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
posted on 25/12/14
Fair enough. Adams then.
posted on 25/12/14
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 minutes ago
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
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Or Woodgate or Radebe for that matter
posted on 25/12/14
comment by MARK. (U1449)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 minutes ago
Campbell isn't as good as vidic, Rio, stam or carvalho
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Or Woodgate or Radebe for that matter
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Or McGrath
posted on 25/12/14
And Hyypia
posted on 25/12/14
King, Hendry...
posted on 25/12/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 25/12/14
Whatever. Prejudices get in the way.
posted on 25/12/14
The gimmes for me (based on both talent and competition in that position) are Schmeichel, Cole, Rio, Ronaldo, and Henry.
There is a gluttony of centremid choices and both formation and tactics could see some in or out. A lot of competition at centreback as well.
I'd have Pires as the best 'winger' but if you include Suarez as a wide forward (Pires never really crossed the ball and effectively played wide forward cutting inside) then it's a semantic battle - I'd take Suarez personally or both.
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