It's not that. You just don't have the profile as a club to attract 50 million pound players.
man city got Toure and aguero without the profile you mentioned above
Couldn't afford the wages of say a Di Maria, Falcao or Fabregas.
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posted 17 minutes ago
It's not that. You just don't have the profile as a club to attract 50 million pound players.
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exactly
some people just don't get it
Profile has little to do with it, and the city mention Is a valid one. City were nowhere, hadnt won the title in 50yrs ish; suddenly they get billionaire owners and are paying top dollar, £250K pw wages and 30-40M players.
City dont care about wage structure, they dont have to. Liverpool do, hence we have to be more careful. Its as simple as that really.
You don't necessarily need to spend £50m to get the right players. Only a few clubs can afford to buy the finished article, the superstars, but that's ok, doesn't mean we can't be successful. You just need to identify the right players. Like Suarez, like Sturridge, like City did with Kompany and Silva (neither overly expensive because they weren't seen as superstars at the time).
It's possible but difficult. Then again we can't afford to take the easy route that the likes of Real Madrid do.
We can't pay the wages that city were able to at that stage due to FFP.
That's all there is to it.
Imagine what chelsea are paying out to Salah who can't even get on their bench.
We have a massive stadium bill coming too.
Bollox, all we seem to do lately is sign gonnerbee's who end up as not suitable. I would last 5 minutes in my job like that and don't earn anything like these a55holes
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comment by CurlyBlackBonce (U18853)
posted 11 minutes ago
Bollox, all we seem to do lately is sign gonnerbee's who end up as not suitable. I would last 5 minutes in my job like that and don't earn anything like these a55holes
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That's because it's not easy! It's not an exact science. In fact it's like saying that if you're a top scientist then all your experiments will be successful - it's just not realistic.
Don't get me wrong, our hit rate has not been good enough in the £15m+ bracket. Not good enough at all. But it is the way we have to go. No other choice.
"So, why did we not go after 2 or 3 £40-£50m players to take us up that level."
We have done, they chose other clubs or to stay at their current one.
If you can offer wages like City can then of course, signing top players isnt as problematic.
For me, its the following criteria (in order shown)
- money
- in CL
- reputation
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
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Less inclined to take your view on a layer talent TOOR as you think Borini has some
The fee and wages paid to the two players in my example would be about the same as Sanchez cost/gets. Liverpool fans like to remind Arsenal that they don't win, only compete.....yet he picked Arsenal?
People will say he wanted/his wife wanted London.....but he is happy just to compete/qualify for the CL and other trophies?
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posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
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Less inclined to take your view on a layer talent TOOR as you think Borini has some
The fee and wages paid to the two players in my example would be about the same as Sanchez cost/gets. Liverpool fans like to remind Arsenal that they don't win, only compete.....yet he picked Arsenal?
People will say he wanted/his wife wanted London.....but he is happy just to compete/qualify for the CL and other trophies?
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I would say London would be a main factor but there will have been others also. We apparently offered a higher transfer fee and wages so it wasn't that.
He must just be happy to be in the CL and never win it
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posted 4 minutes ago
He must just be happy to be in the CL and never win it
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Maybe London was enough to tip the balance but he perhaps feels Arsenal are more attractive considering they're always in the Champions League whereas Liverpool were one year in it after years out.
Who knows but he chose them and that's all that matters. We've been in for top players and been close to getting them but ultimately failed and we need to improve on that. Costa, Willian, Mkhitaryan and Samchez have all turned us down for other clubs or to stay at their current one.
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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posted 6 minutes ago
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Come on, you're brighter than that.
Managers come and go, sure they're important to an extent but the competitiveness is all important. And by competative I mean financial clout and ambition.
As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there.
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posted 7 minutes ago
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Costa - wanted to stay with Atletico, in the Champions League.
Mkhitaryan - wanted to goto Dortmund, in the Champions League.
Willian, wanted to go to Chelsea, in the Champions League, London, more money, more chance of success, more recent success.
Sanchez, London, perhaps feels more chance of success, always making Champions League, won a trophy last season.
Various different reasons.
"As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there."
Exactly and this is what some people can't seem to comprehend. They say we can easily sign these top players if we offer them the big wages that the likes of Chelsea and City offer but that's simply not true, they need to know that there's others to follow. Of course that isn't needed now as others have followed and they've now established themselves as top clubs who are competing for trophies and thus they don't need to convince them by other players to come, they're already there.
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Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Come on, you're brighter than that.
Managers come and go, sure they're important to an extent but the competitiveness is all important. And by competative I mean financial clout and ambition.
As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there.
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Are you telling me Liverpool don't have the financial clout and ambition?
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posted on 27/12/14
It's not that. You just don't have the profile as a club to attract 50 million pound players.
posted on 27/12/14
man city got Toure and aguero without the profile you mentioned above
posted on 27/12/14
Couldn't afford the wages of say a Di Maria, Falcao or Fabregas.
posted on 27/12/14
comment by Juan Matador (U17834)
posted 17 minutes ago
It's not that. You just don't have the profile as a club to attract 50 million pound players.
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exactly
some people just don't get it
posted on 27/12/14
Profile has little to do with it, and the city mention Is a valid one. City were nowhere, hadnt won the title in 50yrs ish; suddenly they get billionaire owners and are paying top dollar, £250K pw wages and 30-40M players.
City dont care about wage structure, they dont have to. Liverpool do, hence we have to be more careful. Its as simple as that really.
posted on 27/12/14
You don't necessarily need to spend £50m to get the right players. Only a few clubs can afford to buy the finished article, the superstars, but that's ok, doesn't mean we can't be successful. You just need to identify the right players. Like Suarez, like Sturridge, like City did with Kompany and Silva (neither overly expensive because they weren't seen as superstars at the time).
It's possible but difficult. Then again we can't afford to take the easy route that the likes of Real Madrid do.
posted on 27/12/14
We can't pay the wages that city were able to at that stage due to FFP.
That's all there is to it.
Imagine what chelsea are paying out to Salah who can't even get on their bench.
We have a massive stadium bill coming too.
posted on 27/12/14
Bollox, all we seem to do lately is sign gonnerbee's who end up as not suitable. I would last 5 minutes in my job like that and don't earn anything like these a55holes
posted on 27/12/14
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posted on 27/12/14
comment by CurlyBlackBonce (U18853)
posted 11 minutes ago
Bollox, all we seem to do lately is sign gonnerbee's who end up as not suitable. I would last 5 minutes in my job like that and don't earn anything like these a55holes
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That's because it's not easy! It's not an exact science. In fact it's like saying that if you're a top scientist then all your experiments will be successful - it's just not realistic.
Don't get me wrong, our hit rate has not been good enough in the £15m+ bracket. Not good enough at all. But it is the way we have to go. No other choice.
posted on 27/12/14
"So, why did we not go after 2 or 3 £40-£50m players to take us up that level."
We have done, they chose other clubs or to stay at their current one.
posted on 28/12/14
If you can offer wages like City can then of course, signing top players isnt as problematic.
For me, its the following criteria (in order shown)
- money
- in CL
- reputation
posted on 28/12/14
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
posted on 28/12/14
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
posted on 28/12/14
comment by CurlyBlackBonce (U18853)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
posted on 28/12/14
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by CurlyBlackBonce (U18853)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
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Less inclined to take your view on a layer talent TOOR as you think Borini has some
The fee and wages paid to the two players in my example would be about the same as Sanchez cost/gets. Liverpool fans like to remind Arsenal that they don't win, only compete.....yet he picked Arsenal?
People will say he wanted/his wife wanted London.....but he is happy just to compete/qualify for the CL and other trophies?
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by CurlyBlackBonce (U18853)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 36 minutes ago
Liverpool don't have the money or wages to buy big?
Lallana and Mario cost how much in fees and estimated wages, that could get the superstar
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What the people don't understand when they say it just takes offering top wages, is that that isn't true at all.
Players want to know they are going to be in with a chance of winning trophies consistently and also be competing in the top competitions. The indicators of this are recent history of course but they'll be quicker to join a club who look like they're going to be at the top quickly in the future, they'll jump at clubs who they know are not only going to offer him top wages and pay a massive fee but they're going to do it again and again for other players, meaning it's inevitable they're going to be at the top. Only three clubs have been able to do that in the Premier League and Liverpool certainly aren't one of them.
So no, it is not about how much wages you offer them, it's about how much they think you're going to be firing around and him and the rest after him.
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So, we carry on as we are or we start doing something different. Last summer window, we were a champions league club who had just come close to winning the PL. LFC is still a big name in Europe but still blew the money on wannabees when we already have that talent in house. Tell me whywe spent £20m on Marco and yet loaned out Ibe.
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Well there's certainly no miracle cure as some seem to think.
We shouldn't be worrying what we spent on twenty year olds, they're for the future and anybody who thinks Ibe is or ever will be in the same league of talent or potential as Markovic is on meth.
The issues I have is that we need to be signing more experienced players to compliment them. Especially at the top end of the pitch. Even Eto'o for example would have complimented the squad well, so what if they don't have a sell on fee, what they could earn you by way of success would potentially outweigh any fee.
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Less inclined to take your view on a layer talent TOOR as you think Borini has some
The fee and wages paid to the two players in my example would be about the same as Sanchez cost/gets. Liverpool fans like to remind Arsenal that they don't win, only compete.....yet he picked Arsenal?
People will say he wanted/his wife wanted London.....but he is happy just to compete/qualify for the CL and other trophies?
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I would say London would be a main factor but there will have been others also. We apparently offered a higher transfer fee and wages so it wasn't that.
posted on 28/12/14
He must just be happy to be in the CL and never win it
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 4 minutes ago
He must just be happy to be in the CL and never win it
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Maybe London was enough to tip the balance but he perhaps feels Arsenal are more attractive considering they're always in the Champions League whereas Liverpool were one year in it after years out.
Who knows but he chose them and that's all that matters. We've been in for top players and been close to getting them but ultimately failed and we need to improve on that. Costa, Willian, Mkhitaryan and Samchez have all turned us down for other clubs or to stay at their current one.
posted on 28/12/14
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Come on, you're brighter than that.
Managers come and go, sure they're important to an extent but the competitiveness is all important. And by competative I mean financial clout and ambition.
As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there.
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 7 minutes ago
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Costa - wanted to stay with Atletico, in the Champions League.
Mkhitaryan - wanted to goto Dortmund, in the Champions League.
Willian, wanted to go to Chelsea, in the Champions League, London, more money, more chance of success, more recent success.
Sanchez, London, perhaps feels more chance of success, always making Champions League, won a trophy last season.
Various different reasons.
posted on 28/12/14
"As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there."
Exactly and this is what some people can't seem to comprehend. They say we can easily sign these top players if we offer them the big wages that the likes of Chelsea and City offer but that's simply not true, they need to know that there's others to follow. Of course that isn't needed now as others have followed and they've now established themselves as top clubs who are competing for trophies and thus they don't need to convince them by other players to come, they're already there.
posted on 28/12/14
comment by Sterling Work (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why any Rodgers attract/retain the best?
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Come on, you're brighter than that.
Managers come and go, sure they're important to an extent but the competitiveness is all important. And by competative I mean financial clout and ambition.
As TOOR rightly said, the likes of Aguero and Toure didn't sign for City because they were offered huge wages. They signed because they were offered huge wages AND they knew there would be other Aguero's and Toure's to come. The spending wasn't going to end there.
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Are you telling me Liverpool don't have the financial clout and ambition?
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