Where did I say spend 'loads' of money. We can easily get 3 decent players with Premiership experience, ready to go straight into the first team, for under £25m.
Why do some of you believe we are such a tiny club with miniscule finances?
We easily have the reserves to spend £20m on transfers, probably more.
Stop buying the Levy propaganda. Look, WE WILL NOT PROGRESS WHILST WE RELY ON PLAYERS LIKE ROSE AND SOLDADO TO TAKE US FORWARD.
Levy will spend if the right player is available for the money.
When we were in the CL he whacked in a 38 million bid for Aguero but it was turned down
He also bidded for Hazard and he wanted to sign Suarez before Liverpool got him but Harry said no
Here are the UK and US running up the national debt to the tune of trillions of dollars because they spend more than they earn. Why is it any different for clubs?
The club is run sensibly without throwing money and driving a debt bill for a few trophies to please fans. I would rather Tottenham compete as we are whilst slowly building with stability then throwing money at it.
When funds have become available (e.g. sale of Bale) then it's been reinvested but unfortunately hasn't worked out as well as we wanted to.
Where I will fault Levy on however is that when money has been invested it has been done so on the wrong type of players and built ourselves a squad full on okay footballers.
Best plan going forward would probably be buying just 1 or 2 really good players every year and improving the youth talent along the way.
If Levy builds a stadium and sells for huge profit why should that bother anyone so much. Spurs would be left with a fantastic training centre and a shiny bigger stadium which will improve future cash flows.
comment by The RC - Football Expert & gentleman (U17921)
posted 8 minutes ago
Where did I say spend 'loads' of money. We can easily get 3 decent players with Premiership experience, ready to go straight into the first team, for under £25m.
Why do some of you believe we are such a tiny club with miniscule finances?
We easily have the reserves to spend £20m on transfers, probably more.
Stop buying the Levy propaganda. Look, WE WILL NOT PROGRESS WHILST WE RELY ON PLAYERS LIKE ROSE AND SOLDADO TO TAKE US FORWARD.
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What three players are you going to buy for under £25m that will vastly improve our squad and not just pile it up with more mediocrity?
We spent £25m or so on Soldado who was a great goalscorer. Can't blame Levy for that because we could spend £40m for Cavani and it might not turn out well, that's football and its up to the scouts and manager.
RC must have access to Spurs' accounts.
We don't need 3 players, just 1 or 2.
As for who can and should we get, isn't that why we brought Paul Mitchell in?
I personally wince a little when fans urge their clubs to spend, spend spend - particularly in January. Don't get me wrong, I love a new signing as much as anyone and we were all jumping for joy in the summer of 2013 when the Bale money was being spent. However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
There must come a point (Chelsea, Man U and Man City perhaps excluded) when a club should concentrate on getting a coach who can get the best out of the players and have the courage to bring youth players through if they're good enough. I believe that this is Poch's brief and I think he's doing a good job at it.
As I've said already, I would like us to sign a decent striker this month if possible, but I wouldn't be worried if we see out the remainder of the season with the squad that we have. I think we are on the right track in terms of what is being built (and I don't mean the stadium) and hopefully Poch will be able to pick up a couple of decent players in the summer (when the market is more sensible) so that we can continue the rebuilding process. Rome wasn't built in a day.
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
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posted 1 minute ago
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
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This depends on your definition of failure.
I know this might not be popular, but I think we have to face up to the fact that we are not a "top 4 team" there's no way that we can compete with the financial power of Chelsea, Man City and Man U. Arsenal have financial power too (more than us anyway), so realistically we're looking at 5th or 6th until we have completed our rebuild - which as I say takes time.
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posted 1 minute ago
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
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This depends on your definition of failure.
I know this might not be popular, but I think we have to face up to the fact that we are not a "top 4 team" there's no way that we can compete with the financial power of Chelsea, Man City and Man U. Arsenal have financial power too (more than us anyway), so realistically we're looking at 5th or 6th until we have completed our rebuild - which as I say takes time.
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Right but we're trying to be aren't we? Therefore the past few seasons since we were in the CL you'd have to say have been a failure, especially being so far ahead of Arsenal only to lose that lead and CL in the process.
To say it hasn't been failure is to accept a lack of ambition.
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
Its well known our scouting system was virtually non existent. We have bought in Paul Mitchell to try and resolve this.
He unearthed some real gems for Southampton like Tadic, Pelle and mane and hopefully he can do the same for us.
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
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I think it might not have been temporary. Pkayers like hazard and oscar were talking about coming to spurs until chelsea got CL over us. We were actually a better side at that point than chelsea. It was real nip tuck between us and arsenal. If we'd got another point that season (and a quality signing would have done that) then we'd have been in business. Even the following season, if levy had just got moutinho signed instead of di cking about, we'd have got CL and probably kept bale.
Good point Don't cry, you'd have to assume we're chasing players, or at least lining them up.
What annoys me with Levy though is the waiting till last minute. If we'd got our business done early we could've had Scheiderlin. I just want to see some ambition, in a way I'm glad we didn't take Defoe back, hopefully it means we'll get some fresh blood in.
Who the hell is Chamberlain?
So just the 50-60m on Shawcross, Berahino and Schneiderlin, plus the cost of the mystery left back RC?
Sounds feasible
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
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No way of knowing for sure if it would have been temporary. Look at Liverpool, they've finished behind us 4 times in the last 5, and maybe again this season.
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Spurs' transfer spending is pretty embarrassing alright. You don't even have the excuse of funding a new stadium to fall back on. I mean Spurs were talking about building a new stadium before we were and we've been in the Emirates for nearly a decade now.
Levy is all talk. He can milk buyers for money when selling his prized assets, I'll give him that. But it seems to be all he knows how to do.
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posted on 20/1/15
Where did I say spend 'loads' of money. We can easily get 3 decent players with Premiership experience, ready to go straight into the first team, for under £25m.
Why do some of you believe we are such a tiny club with miniscule finances?
We easily have the reserves to spend £20m on transfers, probably more.
Stop buying the Levy propaganda. Look, WE WILL NOT PROGRESS WHILST WE RELY ON PLAYERS LIKE ROSE AND SOLDADO TO TAKE US FORWARD.
posted on 20/1/15
Levy will spend if the right player is available for the money.
When we were in the CL he whacked in a 38 million bid for Aguero but it was turned down
He also bidded for Hazard and he wanted to sign Suarez before Liverpool got him but Harry said no
posted on 20/1/15
Here are the UK and US running up the national debt to the tune of trillions of dollars because they spend more than they earn. Why is it any different for clubs?
The club is run sensibly without throwing money and driving a debt bill for a few trophies to please fans. I would rather Tottenham compete as we are whilst slowly building with stability then throwing money at it.
When funds have become available (e.g. sale of Bale) then it's been reinvested but unfortunately hasn't worked out as well as we wanted to.
Where I will fault Levy on however is that when money has been invested it has been done so on the wrong type of players and built ourselves a squad full on okay footballers.
Best plan going forward would probably be buying just 1 or 2 really good players every year and improving the youth talent along the way.
If Levy builds a stadium and sells for huge profit why should that bother anyone so much. Spurs would be left with a fantastic training centre and a shiny bigger stadium which will improve future cash flows.
posted on 20/1/15
comment by The RC - Football Expert & gentleman (U17921)
posted 8 minutes ago
Where did I say spend 'loads' of money. We can easily get 3 decent players with Premiership experience, ready to go straight into the first team, for under £25m.
Why do some of you believe we are such a tiny club with miniscule finances?
We easily have the reserves to spend £20m on transfers, probably more.
Stop buying the Levy propaganda. Look, WE WILL NOT PROGRESS WHILST WE RELY ON PLAYERS LIKE ROSE AND SOLDADO TO TAKE US FORWARD.
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What three players are you going to buy for under £25m that will vastly improve our squad and not just pile it up with more mediocrity?
We spent £25m or so on Soldado who was a great goalscorer. Can't blame Levy for that because we could spend £40m for Cavani and it might not turn out well, that's football and its up to the scouts and manager.
posted on 20/1/15
RC must have access to Spurs' accounts.
posted on 20/1/15
fanboy accountants
posted on 20/1/15
We don't need 3 players, just 1 or 2.
As for who can and should we get, isn't that why we brought Paul Mitchell in?
posted on 20/1/15
I personally wince a little when fans urge their clubs to spend, spend spend - particularly in January. Don't get me wrong, I love a new signing as much as anyone and we were all jumping for joy in the summer of 2013 when the Bale money was being spent. However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
There must come a point (Chelsea, Man U and Man City perhaps excluded) when a club should concentrate on getting a coach who can get the best out of the players and have the courage to bring youth players through if they're good enough. I believe that this is Poch's brief and I think he's doing a good job at it.
As I've said already, I would like us to sign a decent striker this month if possible, but I wouldn't be worried if we see out the remainder of the season with the squad that we have. I think we are on the right track in terms of what is being built (and I don't mean the stadium) and hopefully Poch will be able to pick up a couple of decent players in the summer (when the market is more sensible) so that we can continue the rebuilding process. Rome wasn't built in a day.
posted on 20/1/15
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
posted on 20/1/15
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
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This depends on your definition of failure.
I know this might not be popular, but I think we have to face up to the fact that we are not a "top 4 team" there's no way that we can compete with the financial power of Chelsea, Man City and Man U. Arsenal have financial power too (more than us anyway), so realistically we're looking at 5th or 6th until we have completed our rebuild - which as I say takes time.
posted on 20/1/15
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
However, spending does not guarantee success as we've found out.
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But we haven't found out though because we don't bother spending any money in January.
We've found out what happens when we don't spend though, it's that it usually ends in failure.
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This depends on your definition of failure.
I know this might not be popular, but I think we have to face up to the fact that we are not a "top 4 team" there's no way that we can compete with the financial power of Chelsea, Man City and Man U. Arsenal have financial power too (more than us anyway), so realistically we're looking at 5th or 6th until we have completed our rebuild - which as I say takes time.
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Right but we're trying to be aren't we? Therefore the past few seasons since we were in the CL you'd have to say have been a failure, especially being so far ahead of Arsenal only to lose that lead and CL in the process.
To say it hasn't been failure is to accept a lack of ambition.
posted on 20/1/15
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
posted on 20/1/15
Its well known our scouting system was virtually non existent. We have bought in Paul Mitchell to try and resolve this.
He unearthed some real gems for Southampton like Tadic, Pelle and mane and hopefully he can do the same for us.
posted on 20/1/15
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
posted on 20/1/15
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
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I think it might not have been temporary. Pkayers like hazard and oscar were talking about coming to spurs until chelsea got CL over us. We were actually a better side at that point than chelsea. It was real nip tuck between us and arsenal. If we'd got another point that season (and a quality signing would have done that) then we'd have been in business. Even the following season, if levy had just got moutinho signed instead of di cking about, we'd have got CL and probably kept bale.
posted on 20/1/15
Good point Don't cry, you'd have to assume we're chasing players, or at least lining them up.
What annoys me with Levy though is the waiting till last minute. If we'd got our business done early we could've had Scheiderlin. I just want to see some ambition, in a way I'm glad we didn't take Defoe back, hopefully it means we'll get some fresh blood in.
posted on 20/1/15
Who the hell is Chamberlain?
So just the 50-60m on Shawcross, Berahino and Schneiderlin, plus the cost of the mystery left back RC?
Sounds feasible
posted on 20/1/15
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Spursmeupb4ugogo (U20265)
posted 1 minute ago
There was a moment when the momentum was with us and w could have risen above arsenal and chelsea. And possibly subsequently man u. We didnt take it, and we lost the chance.
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I agree. But if we had finished above them (which in fact we have in the past) it would only have been temporary. We need a model that is going to allow us to have sustainable success. Spending, sacking, spending sacking isn't it.
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No way of knowing for sure if it would have been temporary. Look at Liverpool, they've finished behind us 4 times in the last 5, and maybe again this season.
posted on 20/1/15
embarrassing article from an embarrassing poster. move along all, nothing to see here.
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Probably spunked a fortune on compensation for all the managers he has fired
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Spurs' transfer spending is pretty embarrassing alright. You don't even have the excuse of funding a new stadium to fall back on. I mean Spurs were talking about building a new stadium before we were and we've been in the Emirates for nearly a decade now.
Levy is all talk. He can milk buyers for money when selling his prized assets, I'll give him that. But it seems to be all he knows how to do.
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