Steve Morison has been in the 1st team squad for the last few weeks. Before that, and that's pretty much up to Xmas/NY he hardly had a look in.

Good comment, agree totally. But the fact remains, he's been here two years and has scored how many goals....?

So, as the question asks, how long do you give him...?



Would you agree that since he's started matches, we've either won or drawn?

I would say that the change of formation has more to do with it. I will accept he's been in the team. But I would say Sharp coming on as a sub has contributed more in the way of goals, and I am sorry if you don't agree, Jonty does, and he's said so, but the main role of a striker, the primary role of a striker is to score goals.

I'd rather him trouble the opposition by scoring, nothing would give me greater pleasure....!!



I have no problem with most of the views of the sweary bloke from Wakey. He knows that I agree with him on many things and disagree on others. He's said it on here and so have I. On this subject we disagree. I'll live with it.



Oh and Jonty love, you don't want to go around passing comments like that too often dear, you've got far more up you than I'll ever have up me as has been pointed out by so many and so often.

'I would say that the change of formation has more to do with it. I will accept he's been in the team.'

I would say the formation change has had more to do with it than Morison himself too.

But this formation change relies on a player that can hold the ball up, bring others into play, chase down the opposition, run the channels and stretch the defence, and create space for others.

As from what we have seen so far he is the only striker we have that can do that, this formation change relies on Morison.

No one is saying that the change in fortune is directly down to Morison, but he's the only player we have that can allow us to play this formation which has improved things so much for us.

The formation is winning us more points than having two strikers upfront who are scoring goals, which we had earlier on in the season. And that's why Morison has become more important to the team right now than having a striker who is scoring goals.

I'm not from Wakey although many years ago had a house built in Wakey. Hoping that qualifies me to comment....

Steve Morison - would love him to succeed but can't see it. Not good enough. He's there to score goals. He doesn't. Other assets are all well and good but scoring is his primary responsibility.

As it stands at the moment we are a team going into matches without a recognised goalscorer. If you're happy with that........

No you are not qualified to comment! How dare you!!!

But seen as though I am so welcoming I will respond anyway

I would be much happier if we were going into games with a recognised goal scorer.

But I am more than happy that we are finally going into games with a realistic expectation of picking up wins and points.

Whereas earlier in the season we were going into games with a recognised goal scorer for us in Antenucci (who has done well in front of goal) but not looking like getting a win at all. So right now I am much happier than before. At a time when. You seemed quite content with how things were going.

For me if I have the choice of going into games without a recognised goal scorer and having a better chance of winning, or going into games with a goal scorer but looking unlikely to win, I know which option I would pick every time.

And judging by results and the way we have played over the past few months that would appear to be the choice.

There are a lot of things that need to be improved and not much is good enough at the club right now, but the changes that have been made on the pitch recently have certainly started the club moving in the right direction again. And I cannot understand anyone that would want to revert back to how things were before the turn of the year because of simplistic attitude that strikers are only doing something for the side if they are scoring.

Where have I suggested reverting back? Simply not true. If we lose the next three games then fans will be baying for change.

We are playing better with this formation but I still think we can do better still.

From the thoughts of a legend......

"Defenders and midfielders take penalties and the odd goalkeeper does too. A striker’s job is to read the game, time his movement and pop up at the back post just as the ball drops nicely with 90 minutes on the clock.

As a forward – and I was one – you’re judged on your goalscoring record. Billy could be the best player on the pitch for 46 league games but if he finishes the season with a handful of goals, he’ll be judged on that tally and he’ll be judged harshly."

Referring of course to Billy Sharp but the same sentiments apply to Mr Morison.

Stevie Dee

I would love to see 'Interesting' adding pepper to a goulash in cooking, no not quite there yet, a bit more, no not quite there yet, a bit more, no not quite there yet, a bit more, no not quite there yet, a bit more...

Anyway you get the drift, by the time it's sunk in, he'll have ruined the goulash when what he really needed was a bit of salt.

Got to be the most boring prattling drivel spouting numpty on here.

It is obvious to everyone that what we need is a striker that scores goals. To persist with one that doesn't for any length of time is a calamity.

Anyone that uses the argument Emile Heskey didn't score goals and he was a striker ought to look at how many titles he won...! Just for the record here, at Leicester he score 40 in 154 games and at Liverpool 39 in 150 games - And that is a darn sight better than the ratio Morison has for us...!

He puts me to sleep with his endless whine, it's like having a second wife.

Its obvious to me that since we started playing a striker that hasn't scored goals we have won more games

That tells me that there are probably other factors involved wigeon inhales than how many goalsyourstriker gets.

I suggest you starting supporting the team and celebrating the recent success rather than being so dreary Eric

One day maybe it will sink in that more wins for Leeds nited is better than less wins.

You do remember you support Leeds right and not Cellino?

Good comment, agree totally. But the fact remains, he's been here two years and has scored how many goals....?

So, as the question asks, how long do you give him...?

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While the team is winning and gathering momentum, with that player as a part in the bigger cog, then that's how long I give him.

It's too simplistic to say because he's the striker, ergo he must score. To an extent it's true - but he may be offering the team (it is a team game) an option that unlocks defences for others to score.

You can change a winning team and drop him, but then you're going against most popular opinion in the world of football by doing so.

Never change a winning ........................

To persist with one that doesn't for any length of time is a calamity

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That's true as well. But then with Morison just how much game time has he had since joining? How many times has he had run of more than 60 mins football in the side? In Jan 15 he's been given a run in the side, not scored, but the "team" are picking up points - winning even.

Those who witness him in the ground can see he's contributing (a lot) to that upturn in form.

Feel free to write to NR and demand he be dropped. Personally I think most would disagree with you right now .............

I don't understand why anyone would want to change a winning team....a team unbeaten in 4 games.

Doesn't make sense at all.

Jud_

My point is I think we can do better. I have accepted and acknowledged that he's working hard and whilst he's here I expect him to play and be committed to the cause, if he's the best we have.

If you read back over the posts, my comment relates to getting someone in that does all he does and more. When I say more I mean score goals. This is what I see as the main reason for having what we in England call a striker

I have not said he isn't contributing, I am saying that I (that's me by the way) doesn't think he's good enough and that we could do better. He can run around all he wants but if he's not burying the ball in the net he's not performing to the level I expect for someone in the role.

That's my opinion.



What I would say is this, had LUFC gone out in this window and brought in a recognised prolific striker would you want him left on the bench or would you persist with Steve Morison....?

And how long for...?

I think you make your points well Eric, I just happen to disagree.

Great this forum for disagreeing about subjects eh .....

No it isn't



Which part do you actually disagree with...?



Do you disagree we could not do better...?

Do you disagree that a striker should score goals....?

Or do you just disagree....?

Do you disagree we could do better even...?

I just disagree - it's the easiest stance to take. Avoids any confusion that way.

Keep it up.

We can do better.

I believe there's a better formation within our current crop of players. I want to see a team set up to attack, two strikers. It's the way Leeds United has always been successful.

We might not have out and out wingers but there is width.

Do you see teams in the Premiership playing one formation? No. We're too tunnel vision.