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Great news for him but credit goes to Blackburn
wonderful talent, will best best in world in few years.
Great news for him but credit goes to Blackburn
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Forgot all about Sturridge!
Obviously he's up there in the strikers, probably second pick after Rooney...
Hart
Foster (if he makes himself available)
Richards
Kelly/G.Johnson
Ferdinand
Terry
Smalling
Cahill/Jones/Jagielka
Cole
Bains
Young
Lennon
Wilshere
Gerrard
Cleverley/Carrick
Milner/Huddlestone
Lampard/Parker
A.Johnson
Walcott/Downing
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
Bent/Carroll
Get Terry out of the England team!
Average defender.
did anyone even bother to read the article. It was the 5th of augest and for the holland game apparently. Which by the way was called off still going to be a future great with smalling. The world cup in 2014 will have cleverlay,welbeck,smalling,jones,rooney and maybe morrison. United are englands future
Askdannyjeeves
Pretty sure this will be his last tournament. I hope the FA realises that after Capello goes, we need a youth promoting manager. No more picking on reputation like in the past. Ideally for united, Rio will retire from international duty and focus on playing for United, so Smalling and him battling it out for us. Jones will then begin his task of displacing the worlds best centre half in Nemanja (he'll probably do it in a season or two as well that boy!) So it'll be Smalling and Cahill/Jones for England. Terry won't go quietly, but I honestly think if Cahill gets a move to a big club and Jones keeps on improving like he is, then Terry will be 4th choice at best.
Eric Brad-ona - Good spot! Oops, i'm bad! have updated the link to the one i meant to add.
Capt P - i was not trying to claim Phil Jones as a great United youngster, all credit goes to Blackburn!
I am more interested in England giving youth a chance, rather than playing safe with established stars who are not our future.
I think we hold on to players for too long in England and play them on sentiment rather than ability.
My Squad:
Hart
Foster
???
Richards
Kelly
Terry
Smalling
Cahill
Jones
A.Cole
Baines
A.Johnson
Walcott
Carrick
Parker
Wilshire
Cleverley
Downing
A.Young
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
CarrollMy Squad:
Hart
Foster
???
Richards
Kelly
Terry
Smalling
Cahill
Jones
A.Cole
A.Johnson
Walcott
Carrick
Parker
Wilshire
Cleverley
Downing
A.Young
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
Carroll
Eric_Cantona_7 (U10287)
The problem is that Capello, understandably, will have his main aim of winning a trophy.
I think England would do better to focus on the future, even if that means starting with a weaker team now.
Having said that, I don't think taking Terry out of the team would make it weaker.
Terry and Ferdinand are past their best. Great players for England but time to move on.
Terry - great for England?
Pah.
Sadly, we are stuck with Terry not only in our team, but as our captain for the next tournament. Capello won't drop him and we all know it. He'll be gone soon though.
I would put Jarvis in there ahead of Downing. Also Joey Barton, lets face it, he deserves a call up and he has a different attitude to the rest of the money grubbing pampered players that are regulars.
How does barton deserve a call up?
Jones has done very well since coming to United. Looks a good player for the future.
The adulation he has been getting from some fans and press has been ridiculous and quite frankly unfair on the lad. He has played just2 games for United. When at Blackburn he went largely unnoticed by most fans. But now we hear statements such as, 'future England captain', and 'will be the best in the world'.
You could not expect or predict more of a young 19 year player than this.
Its grossly unfair on him. If he doesn't make these heady heights he will be deemed a failure by those who did.
The same happened to Wes Brown when he first got in United's first team. Anybody remember? People said exactly the same of him as they are saying of Jones which was a major contribution and hindered his development.
Lay off Jones and let him get on with it.
I'm with Fergie on this one...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14678931.stm
I agree that we should take young players to the Euro's. We aren't going to win it anyway with Spain, Germany and possibly France all far better than out current side.
I'd drop Gerrard, Terry, Lampard, Ferdinand, Barry and Crouch. Apart from Ferdinand none of them have ever performed for England in a tournament.
Bring in the young players to give them tournament experience and prepare them for Brazil 2018.I think all the usual talk that "we can win it this time" evaporated after the 2010 performance so there is no pressure now anyway.
wonderful talent, will best best in world in few years.
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Barton was playing fantastically last season, and was performing better than any of the England regulars but didn't get a call up. In the first two games of this season he has continued his form and played well.
Who else has played better?
Garrard=injured, not played this season
Lampard=not performed great great so far
Henderson=played Ok so far
Carrick=not played this season
Barry=meh, I think most players agree he is highly overrated and past his best.
Parker=playing in championship
Wilshere=injured not played this season.
Huddleston= injured, not played this season.
Can You name any other central midfielders who are starting for their club teams, playing better than Barton and could play at international level for England?
The only two I can think of are Muamba and Cleverly who both have significantly less experience than Barton.
"Jones has done very well since coming to United. Looks a good player for the future."
He did very well for us for a season and a half and it was no coincidence that his return coincided with an upturn in our disastrous form under Klueless Kean.
However this comment from Capello - wtf!!
"We need to wait because so far he has played one Premier League game and some minutes at Wembley. But potentially he is a fantastic player.
"He needs to play more games with Manchester United.
"I remember when Wilshere started to play with Arsenal. First he did well, then better, better, better and after four months he was at the top. I understood he was ready to play with the national team."
Jones has played a full season and a half with us - his Premiership debut was against Chelsea. Yet he's only played one game?! and is only good enough to be considered once he moves to Man U? Same with Wilshere - a good full season with Bolton and he is only considered once he starts playing regularly with Arsenal?
I give up on this elitist manager and would join those questioning exactly what he's adding to the national team.
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posted on 26/8/11
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posted on 26/8/11
Great news for him but credit goes to Blackburn
wonderful talent, will best best in world in few years.
posted on 26/8/11
Great news for him but credit goes to Blackburn
-----------------------
posted on 26/8/11
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posted on 26/8/11
Forgot all about Sturridge!
Obviously he's up there in the strikers, probably second pick after Rooney...
posted on 26/8/11
Hart
Foster (if he makes himself available)
Richards
Kelly/G.Johnson
Ferdinand
Terry
Smalling
Cahill/Jones/Jagielka
Cole
Bains
Young
Lennon
Wilshere
Gerrard
Cleverley/Carrick
Milner/Huddlestone
Lampard/Parker
A.Johnson
Walcott/Downing
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
Bent/Carroll
posted on 26/8/11
Get Terry out of the England team!
Average defender.
posted on 26/8/11
did anyone even bother to read the article. It was the 5th of augest and for the holland game apparently. Which by the way was called off still going to be a future great with smalling. The world cup in 2014 will have cleverlay,welbeck,smalling,jones,rooney and maybe morrison. United are englands future
posted on 26/8/11
Askdannyjeeves
Pretty sure this will be his last tournament. I hope the FA realises that after Capello goes, we need a youth promoting manager. No more picking on reputation like in the past. Ideally for united, Rio will retire from international duty and focus on playing for United, so Smalling and him battling it out for us. Jones will then begin his task of displacing the worlds best centre half in Nemanja (he'll probably do it in a season or two as well that boy!) So it'll be Smalling and Cahill/Jones for England. Terry won't go quietly, but I honestly think if Cahill gets a move to a big club and Jones keeps on improving like he is, then Terry will be 4th choice at best.
posted on 26/8/11
Eric Brad-ona - Good spot! Oops, i'm bad! have updated the link to the one i meant to add.
Capt P - i was not trying to claim Phil Jones as a great United youngster, all credit goes to Blackburn!
I am more interested in England giving youth a chance, rather than playing safe with established stars who are not our future.
I think we hold on to players for too long in England and play them on sentiment rather than ability.
posted on 26/8/11
My Squad:
Hart
Foster
???
Richards
Kelly
Terry
Smalling
Cahill
Jones
A.Cole
Baines
A.Johnson
Walcott
Carrick
Parker
Wilshire
Cleverley
Downing
A.Young
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
CarrollMy Squad:
Hart
Foster
???
Richards
Kelly
Terry
Smalling
Cahill
Jones
A.Cole
A.Johnson
Walcott
Carrick
Parker
Wilshire
Cleverley
Downing
A.Young
Rooney
Welbeck
Sturridge
Carroll
posted on 26/8/11
Eric_Cantona_7 (U10287)
The problem is that Capello, understandably, will have his main aim of winning a trophy.
I think England would do better to focus on the future, even if that means starting with a weaker team now.
Having said that, I don't think taking Terry out of the team would make it weaker.
posted on 26/8/11
Terry and Ferdinand are past their best. Great players for England but time to move on.
posted on 26/8/11
Terry - great for England?
Pah.
posted on 26/8/11
Sadly, we are stuck with Terry not only in our team, but as our captain for the next tournament. Capello won't drop him and we all know it. He'll be gone soon though.
posted on 26/8/11
I would put Jarvis in there ahead of Downing. Also Joey Barton, lets face it, he deserves a call up and he has a different attitude to the rest of the money grubbing pampered players that are regulars.
posted on 26/8/11
How does barton deserve a call up?
posted on 26/8/11
Jones has done very well since coming to United. Looks a good player for the future.
The adulation he has been getting from some fans and press has been ridiculous and quite frankly unfair on the lad. He has played just2 games for United. When at Blackburn he went largely unnoticed by most fans. But now we hear statements such as, 'future England captain', and 'will be the best in the world'.
You could not expect or predict more of a young 19 year player than this.
Its grossly unfair on him. If he doesn't make these heady heights he will be deemed a failure by those who did.
The same happened to Wes Brown when he first got in United's first team. Anybody remember? People said exactly the same of him as they are saying of Jones which was a major contribution and hindered his development.
Lay off Jones and let him get on with it.
posted on 26/8/11
I'm with Fergie on this one...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14678931.stm
posted on 26/8/11
I agree that we should take young players to the Euro's. We aren't going to win it anyway with Spain, Germany and possibly France all far better than out current side.
I'd drop Gerrard, Terry, Lampard, Ferdinand, Barry and Crouch. Apart from Ferdinand none of them have ever performed for England in a tournament.
Bring in the young players to give them tournament experience and prepare them for Brazil 2018.I think all the usual talk that "we can win it this time" evaporated after the 2010 performance so there is no pressure now anyway.
posted on 26/8/11
wonderful talent, will best best in world in few years.
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posted on 26/8/11
Barton was playing fantastically last season, and was performing better than any of the England regulars but didn't get a call up. In the first two games of this season he has continued his form and played well.
Who else has played better?
Garrard=injured, not played this season
Lampard=not performed great great so far
Henderson=played Ok so far
Carrick=not played this season
Barry=meh, I think most players agree he is highly overrated and past his best.
Parker=playing in championship
Wilshere=injured not played this season.
Huddleston= injured, not played this season.
Can You name any other central midfielders who are starting for their club teams, playing better than Barton and could play at international level for England?
The only two I can think of are Muamba and Cleverly who both have significantly less experience than Barton.
posted on 28/8/11
"Jones has done very well since coming to United. Looks a good player for the future."
He did very well for us for a season and a half and it was no coincidence that his return coincided with an upturn in our disastrous form under Klueless Kean.
However this comment from Capello - wtf!!
"We need to wait because so far he has played one Premier League game and some minutes at Wembley. But potentially he is a fantastic player.
"He needs to play more games with Manchester United.
"I remember when Wilshere started to play with Arsenal. First he did well, then better, better, better and after four months he was at the top. I understood he was ready to play with the national team."
Jones has played a full season and a half with us - his Premiership debut was against Chelsea. Yet he's only played one game?! and is only good enough to be considered once he moves to Man U? Same with Wilshere - a good full season with Bolton and he is only considered once he starts playing regularly with Arsenal?
I give up on this elitist manager and would join those questioning exactly what he's adding to the national team.
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