3 goals in 3 games since returning?

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Oh dear

***scapegoat KLAXON****

OP suffers from a hangover.

I'd be very happy if we sold him in the summer and brought in someone with balls.

Please tell me the last time Ozil had a world class game against one of the big teams?

I find it hard to judge anyone when they are playing in such an unsuitable position

Was the same with Arshavin. Found the best form of his life playing as a second striker through the middle and earned his move to Arsenal.

Stuck out wide, just didn't suit it. His talent will occasionally shine through via goals & assists but ultimately won't see the best of him.

From what we've seen both out wide and through the middle, I'm not convinced he's a £42m player in this league but he's still being poorly managed imo

While the OP is certainly entitled to their opinion, despite (on the main) Ozil’s form being indifferent, he was the most creative passer in the entire PL last season.

I find it hard to judge anyone when they are playing in such an unsuitable position

Özil is used to this position ffs

This is what happens when you sign luxury players in positions we didn't need.

Wenger bought Ozil after we lost to Aston Villa just to please the fans. We needed a world class Striker and CDM so he goes and buys a CAM to play him on the wing.

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
I find it hard to judge anyone when they are playing in such an unsuitable position

Özil is used to this position ffs
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Did I say he wasn't? I'm used to playing CB now, doesn't mean I'm any good at it

"While the OP is certainly entitled to their opinion, despite (on the main) Ozil’s form being indifferent, he was the most creative passer in the entire PL last season."

His passing is very good. We miss him as a focal point and orchestrator for our attacks when he's out injured.

The problem is we have to carry him. It's OK vs weaker teams but in the big games you need every 10 outfield players contributing both defensively and going forward. He doesn't do that.

I certainly agree that he offer’s little going backwards (he never has/will) and this creates problems when he plays wide but that is a tactical concern that AW should have addressed.

However going forward he is by far the most creative player we have.

Ozil is the type of player that expects to get all the glory without doing any of the hard work

However going forward he is by far the most creative player we have.
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More so than Cazorla?

"However going forward he is by far the most creative player we have."

I don't think anyone will attempt to disagree.

Would you say it's enough, though? It worked at Real because they always play with two sitting CM's and he played through the middle so didn't really need to make anything more than a token effort to defend

I don't really have an issue with luxury players, but you have to setup to cover for them. DB10 was probably as big a luxury player as Ozil but that worked because we setup with that in mind.

With Ozil we just seem to expect him to change overnight into a Welbeck type worker

Most creative player in the PL last season. during his time with Arsenal he has missed over 5 months due to injury.

He was Class for the first 3 months, then Wenger over played him and he suffered and got injured.

He is not a player who lasts 90mins hence why he was always taken off after 70Min at Real yet wenger see fit to play him 90+ mins every game he plays.

If you want a real Flop look no further than DiMaria. Take away his wayward shots that turned into lucky assists hes been very average especially considering he has the likes of RVP, Rooney, Falcao as forwards.

comment by Al. - Wenger Out. Aaron Ramsey is bad at football. Really bad. (U2758)
posted 2 minutes ago
However going forward he is by far the most creative player we have.
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More so than Cazorla?
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On balance and over their respective careers, very much so.

I had a very similar thought to Chris H when I saw this article.

Ask yourself, how would Bergkamp (in his prime) have done on Saturday pushed out on the left wing with that team around him?

Yes Ozil is an icing on the cake type of player. One of the best attacking passers of the ball in the game. And over the last few games he has proved he can be dangerous in the box as well.

We should be building a team around him, allowing him to do his stuff whilst we protect him from his defensive deficiencies. He was asked to do a Sanchez/Chamberlain/Welbeck role on the wing in a game where were going to park the bus. Sorry but I am not going to freak out when Ozil struggles in this role. We didn't pay 42 million for him to do that role. And correct me if I'm wrong neither goals we conceded came from his side, and he scored our goal.

Wenger was robbed of the choice to play Chamberlain or Sanchez on the wing, who are both quicker and better defensively than Ozil or Walcott. This is why Welbeck came straight in. Then Wenger was left with a choice of either Walcott or Ozil to come out of the team. Both equally as poor defensively, one who can provide pace when he is not on the ball, and the other who can link well with the CMs and Giroud. Sadly our CMs were absent and Giroud couldn't hold the ball up. I therefore understand Wenger's logic to pick Ozil over Walcott and I think he made the right decision. It just didn't pay off due to too many bad performances.

It was on the right where we got rinsed, on the side our MOM played (not a criticism of Welbeck just highlighting the absurdity of the argument).

Ozil was bought to create goals, create chances, score goals, improve our all round midfield game. I think he has been quite successful in this.

comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 24 minutes ago
I find it hard to judge anyone when they are playing in such an unsuitable position

Was the same with Arshavin. Found the best form of his life playing as a second striker through the middle and earned his move to Arsenal.

Stuck out wide, just didn't suit it. His talent will occasionally shine through via goals & assists but ultimately won't see the best of him.

From what we've seen both out wide and through the middle, I'm not convinced he's a £42m player in this league but he's still being poorly managed imo
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Ozil played in the middle pretty much all of last season and was still crap, Arshavin played on the left in his first season and half and was one of the best players in the league. ok he's looked a bit better since he's come back but we need to be seeing Alexis level performences every week for the price tag, if he can't do it this season it's easier to just sell him and buy a wide player or back up no.10 instead of forcing Ozil in and unbalancing the squad.

"Ozil played in the middle pretty much all of last season and was still crap, Arshavin played on the left in his first season and half and was one of the best players in the league. ok he's looked a bit better since he's come back but we need to be seeing Alexis level performences every week for the price tag, if he can't do it this season it's easier to just sell him and buy a wide player or back up no.10 instead of forcing Ozil in and unbalancing the squad."



Yeah it was more the principal of being played out of position I was talking about.

Arshavin was good in terms of productivity because of his incredible technique, but overall contribution was never amazing.

Ozil didn't have a very good first season no but there were a lot of factors. Being played behind a front three of Cazorla, Giroud and Ox was never going to be successful for him.

Over the next month or so we should see him be able to play behind Sanchez, Welbeck and Theo so really he needs to massively step it up in terms of delivering big performances.

I'm sceptical he will but I've also far from given up on him.

If you ask me would I take £30m now for him and replace him with a Reus or Isco I probably would.

Ozil played in the middle pretty much all of last season and was still crap, Arshavin played on the left in his first season and half and was one of the best players in the league. ok he's looked a bit better since he's come back but we need to be seeing Alexis level performences every week for the price tag, if he can't do it this season it's easier to just sell him and buy a wide player or back up no.10 instead of forcing Ozil in and unbalancing the squad.

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Why do you care about the price tag? Is it your money? Alexis level performances? Well I think maybe he should give us Henry mixed with Ronaldo mixed with Messi style performances. Sadly he is a different player.

Sanchez is a pitbull, a beast whose raw determination (and touch of class) has made him the PL player of the year so far. Ozil is a far more reserved player, different players, different skills. Glad we have both.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me a game in which Ozil played terrible on the left whilst the rest of the team played well? Maybe then he can be singled out as the weak link. As a no.10 playing on the wing, it makes sense that he has played very well there in games where everyone has played well, and not blown us away in games where we have collectively played poor.

I'll start to worry in games when he is playing in his best position, in games where everyone is doing well and he is clearly the weak link.

Theo he was garbage countless times last season and our the world player on the pitch and he played mainly in the middle. Fans were saying tyhe FA cup justified his signing when was abysmal in the final (playing in the middle) I don't any issue with him, if he starts to perform great but just don't get how people can justify his play or make out that he's been quality for us