comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
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LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
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LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
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Got on the touch line and put a fackin rocket under their collective árse.
So, why does LVG want a second ball on the pitch?
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
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LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
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Got on the touch line and put a fackin rocket under their collective árse.
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I do find that strange, I don't think sitting quietly is something he's been used to in the past.
Have to admit, I think he's been taken back by the PL. You just can't play a team of technical players and hope the better team will win. I'm sure he will learn, by sounds of it, he is.
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
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The amount of ball we have isn't usually the issue, it's the use of it.
Though I think they would use the ball better with a lone striker and two wingers either side. It means dropping two of Rooney, RVP and Falcao, which I don't see happening this season. It also means relying on Januzaj, who has been awful.
------------------------DDG------------------------
Valencia-------Jones------Rojo--------Shaw
------------------Blind-----Carrick---------------
----------------------Herrera---------------------
------Di Maria-------Rooney-----------Januzaj
I'd like to put Rafael in there but he's unreliable.
If you then bring in a good centre back, right back and central midfielder, as well as making changes to the dynamics in our attack (bring in a quick striker, use Wilson, don't sign Falcao) then we could be onto something.
It's not always as simple as change a few players and suddenly we play nice football though. Kawaga and Nani proved that.
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
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That's to assume the football is linear though.... We do thus and the opposition do that...
It isn't though.. If the opposition score, or dominate an unexpected area, or change formation or any of the many variables in a match... We need to react
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
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It's a pick-me-up. Everyone naturally slacks off a bit, but (like scoring a goal) something can pick the tempo and urgency up a bit, it also rattles the opponents. SAF said about it in his book
comment by Robb - LVG has long balls. (U19350)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
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In theory. In theory communism works. In theory.
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Depends who is running the communist state, Che Guevara or Stalin.
(I'm not turning this political but had to use that analogy)
LVG needs to start doing the obvious thing.
Carrick, Blind and Herrera are obviously our most talented central midfielders and should be used before Fellaini (who has his uses).
Rooney should return to being a forward and Di Maria a winger.
Yeah I get the motivation, but if he wants to analyse from afar, get your Mike Phelan to do it.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
________________________________________
The amount of ball we have isn't usually the issue, it's the use of it.
Though I think they would use the ball better with a lone striker and two wingers either side. It means dropping two of Rooney, RVP and Falcao, which I don't see happening this season. It also means relying on Januzaj, who has been awful.
------------------------DDG------------------------
Valencia-------Jones------Rojo--------Shaw
------------------Blind-----Carrick---------------
----------------------Herrera---------------------
------Di Maria-------Rooney-----------Januzaj
I'd like to put Rafael in there but he's unreliable.
If you then bring in a good centre back, right back and central midfielder, as well as making changes to the dynamics in our attack (bring in a quick striker, use Wilson, don't sign Falcao) then we could be onto something.
It's not always as simple as change a few players and suddenly we play nice football though. Kawaga and Nani proved that.
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Rafael and Valencia in the right back spot is a question mark but for me the team you have put above is the most solid and balanced team we have.
Rafael and Valencia in the right back spot is a question mark
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True. We'd never get away with 12 players.
And two right backs would give a dreadful balance to the team.
#philosophy
I think LVG has said previously that he has given his team instructions over 2/3 days training and doesn't need to tell them anything within the space of 45 minutes. If he makes changes he does so at half time.
I'd like to see his stand up and shout at the players Fergie style to be honest. We don't even see Giggs off his chair though.
Kung Fu
I was kidding. Using a Simpsons quote. The 'in theory' bit was me referring to LVG not choosing to use those guys even though most agree it would be good.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think LVG has said previously that he has given his team instructions over 2/3 days training and doesn't need to tell them anything within the space of 45 minutes. If he makes changes he does so at half time.
I'd like to see his stand up and shout at the players Fergie style to be honest. We don't even see Giggs off his chair though.
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Wasn't it Capello who would sometimes stay glued to his seat and when Stuart Pearce got up to shout at the players Capello wedged his hand onto Pearce's thigh and forced him to sit down?
I kind of imagine that's how the LVG/Giggs relationship goes.
comment by Robb - LVG has long balls. (U19350)
posted 7 minutes ago
Kung Fu
I was kidding. Using a Simpsons quote. The 'in theory' bit was me referring to LVG not choosing to use those guys even though most agree it would be good.
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That one went straight over my head.
Glad to see I'm not going mad though and that they are the obvious best trio.
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posted on 10/2/15
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
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LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
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Got on the touch line and put a fackin rocket under their collective árse.
posted on 10/2/15
So, why does LVG want a second ball on the pitch?
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Twitching my ass (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
We were hoofin the ball long before fellaini came on.... You could hear the hammers fans shouting hoof all afternoon.
#Progress
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LVG makes a good point thoigh, if we aren't creating wih the likes of Januzaj and Di Maria on the pitch, two strikers who were at one point the best in the world and Rooney who has almost averaged an assist or goal every game over he last couple of seasons, what is he supposed to do?
He asks his players to play it on the ground, but they aren't doing it.
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Got on the touch line and put a fackin rocket under their collective árse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do find that strange, I don't think sitting quietly is something he's been used to in the past.
Have to admit, I think he's been taken back by the PL. You just can't play a team of technical players and hope the better team will win. I'm sure he will learn, by sounds of it, he is.
posted on 10/2/15
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
________________________________________
The amount of ball we have isn't usually the issue, it's the use of it.
Though I think they would use the ball better with a lone striker and two wingers either side. It means dropping two of Rooney, RVP and Falcao, which I don't see happening this season. It also means relying on Januzaj, who has been awful.
------------------------DDG------------------------
Valencia-------Jones------Rojo--------Shaw
------------------Blind-----Carrick---------------
----------------------Herrera---------------------
------Di Maria-------Rooney-----------Januzaj
I'd like to put Rafael in there but he's unreliable.
If you then bring in a good centre back, right back and central midfielder, as well as making changes to the dynamics in our attack (bring in a quick striker, use Wilson, don't sign Falcao) then we could be onto something.
It's not always as simple as change a few players and suddenly we play nice football though. Kawaga and Nani proved that.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
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That's to assume the football is linear though.... We do thus and the opposition do that...
It isn't though.. If the opposition score, or dominate an unexpected area, or change formation or any of the many variables in a match... We need to react
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't buy into the theory he needs to be shouting from the sidelines. Surely if he gives them instructions before the game, they haven't forgotten by the 20th fecking minute.
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It's a pick-me-up. Everyone naturally slacks off a bit, but (like scoring a goal) something can pick the tempo and urgency up a bit, it also rattles the opponents. SAF said about it in his book
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Robb - LVG has long balls. (U19350)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
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In theory. In theory communism works. In theory.
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Depends who is running the communist state, Che Guevara or Stalin.
(I'm not turning this political but had to use that analogy)
LVG needs to start doing the obvious thing.
Carrick, Blind and Herrera are obviously our most talented central midfielders and should be used before Fellaini (who has his uses).
Rooney should return to being a forward and Di Maria a winger.
posted on 10/2/15
Yeah I get the motivation, but if he wants to analyse from afar, get your Mike Phelan to do it.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 56 seconds ago
With Carrick, Blind and Herrera in the same midfield we would be winning lot more of the ball.
________________________________________
The amount of ball we have isn't usually the issue, it's the use of it.
Though I think they would use the ball better with a lone striker and two wingers either side. It means dropping two of Rooney, RVP and Falcao, which I don't see happening this season. It also means relying on Januzaj, who has been awful.
------------------------DDG------------------------
Valencia-------Jones------Rojo--------Shaw
------------------Blind-----Carrick---------------
----------------------Herrera---------------------
------Di Maria-------Rooney-----------Januzaj
I'd like to put Rafael in there but he's unreliable.
If you then bring in a good centre back, right back and central midfielder, as well as making changes to the dynamics in our attack (bring in a quick striker, use Wilson, don't sign Falcao) then we could be onto something.
It's not always as simple as change a few players and suddenly we play nice football though. Kawaga and Nani proved that.
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Rafael and Valencia in the right back spot is a question mark but for me the team you have put above is the most solid and balanced team we have.
posted on 10/2/15
Rafael and Valencia in the right back spot is a question mark
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True. We'd never get away with 12 players.
And two right backs would give a dreadful balance to the team.
#philosophy
posted on 10/2/15
I think LVG has said previously that he has given his team instructions over 2/3 days training and doesn't need to tell them anything within the space of 45 minutes. If he makes changes he does so at half time.
I'd like to see his stand up and shout at the players Fergie style to be honest. We don't even see Giggs off his chair though.
posted on 10/2/15
Kung Fu
I was kidding. Using a Simpsons quote. The 'in theory' bit was me referring to LVG not choosing to use those guys even though most agree it would be good.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think LVG has said previously that he has given his team instructions over 2/3 days training and doesn't need to tell them anything within the space of 45 minutes. If he makes changes he does so at half time.
I'd like to see his stand up and shout at the players Fergie style to be honest. We don't even see Giggs off his chair though.
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posted on 10/2/15
Wasn't it Capello who would sometimes stay glued to his seat and when Stuart Pearce got up to shout at the players Capello wedged his hand onto Pearce's thigh and forced him to sit down?
I kind of imagine that's how the LVG/Giggs relationship goes.
posted on 10/2/15
comment by Robb - LVG has long balls. (U19350)
posted 7 minutes ago
Kung Fu
I was kidding. Using a Simpsons quote. The 'in theory' bit was me referring to LVG not choosing to use those guys even though most agree it would be good.
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That one went straight over my head.
Glad to see I'm not going mad though and that they are the obvious best trio.
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