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Also to add..this "being" may not be a robot or even a physical entity. However it could just be an intelligence "out there" which is able to govern and take control of technology such as drones, robots, defense systems etc...

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comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 44 seconds ago
Also to add..this "being" may not be a robot or even a physical entity. However it could just be an intelligence "out there" which is able to govern and take control of technology such as drones, robots, defense systems etc...
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You've been watching too many Johnny Depp films.

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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?....

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We can barely control the internet...and that's man made..and I would say pretty much out of control...with no real means of getting a grasp of it,

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Hang on a minute, what exactly is the internet getting up that isn't directly instructed by humans??

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See, it couldnt even work out I'd missed a word out of my sentence

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Surely any output from a machine has to be programmed by it's creator, which will always lead to limitations.
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Well, yes and no.
I agree with Lefty, that machines are already being to taught to recognise problems and self-program the resolution. So although they were originally programmed, they end up doing things that weren’t programmed by a human.

Where I disagree is that that this might lead them to start recognising humans as a problem, and trying to work out a way to eliminate them, or blackmail them.

comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 25 seconds ago
Surely any output from a machine has to be programmed by it's creator, which will always lead to limitations.
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Well, yes and no.
I agree with Lefty, that machines are already being to taught to recognise problems and self-program the resolution. So although they were originally programmed, they end up doing things that weren’t programmed by a human.

Where I disagree is that that this might lead them to start recognising humans as a problem, and trying to work out a way to eliminate them, or blackmail them.
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Yes but that's being programmed to fix a specific programme, it still has it's limitations.

Even with the ability to become self programmed (or taught), I struggle to see where it's self conciousness is coming from to see us as a threat, which I guess it where you and I do agree.

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 25 seconds ago
Surely any output from a machine has to be programmed by it's creator, which will always lead to limitations.
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Well, yes and no.
I agree with Lefty, that machines are already being to taught to recognise problems and self-program the resolution. So although they were originally programmed, they end up doing things that weren’t programmed by a human.

Where I disagree is that that this might lead them to start recognising humans as a problem, and trying to work out a way to eliminate them, or blackmail them.
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Yes but that's being programmed to fix a specific programme, it still has it's limitations.

Even with the ability to become self programmed (or taught), I struggle to see where it's self conciousness is coming from to see us as a threat, which I guess it where you and I do agree.
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Intelligence. The ability to learn.

comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 25 seconds ago
Surely any output from a machine has to be programmed by it's creator, which will always lead to limitations.
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Well, yes and no.
I agree with Lefty, that machines are already being to taught to recognise problems and self-program the resolution. So although they were originally programmed, they end up doing things that weren’t programmed by a human.

Where I disagree is that that this might lead them to start recognising humans as a problem, and trying to work out a way to eliminate them, or blackmail them.
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Yes but that's being programmed to fix a specific programme, it still has it's limitations.

Even with the ability to become self programmed (or taught), I struggle to see where it's self conciousness is coming from to see us as a threat, which I guess it where you and I do agree.
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Intelligence. The ability to learn.
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No, intelligence is the ability to use your surroundings and apply your knowledge or skills.

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I struggle to see where it's self conciousness is coming from to see us as a threat, which I guess it where you and I do agree.
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Yes, I think that's where we agree, Jimmy.

I agree with Lefty that they could feasibly become more intelligent than we intended them to be, but I think there are more limitations on the nature of that intelligence than Lefty does.

comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 5 minutes ago
I struggle to see where it's self conciousness is coming from to see us as a threat, which I guess it where you and I do agree.
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Yes, I think that's where we agree, Jimmy.

I agree with Lefty that they could feasibly become more intelligent than we intended them to be, but I think there are more limitations on the nature of that intelligence than Lefty does.

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Yep.

Nature of that intelligence??

Got assuming we'd always control it. We won't. Unless we change our ways, we could create our own downfall

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That saying has emotion all over it.

Let's agree to disagree.

Enjoyed the thread though. Cheers lads

Person of interest might be of interest to those involved in this discussion. Although very much the early stages of such a 'machine'