Correction
*WON Bulgarian playoff

1 Druk United -2.0,-2.5
Druk United v FC Tertons
(Asian Handicap) 18/06/2017 1.900

Previous meeting this season was 6-1 to Druk United. Tertons have 1 win against 2nd bottom and have lost the other 11 games. They've all been lost by a minimum of 4 goals.

1 Amoko/02 -1.5
FK Fortuna/Ogre v Amoko/02
(Asian Handicap) 18/06/2017 1.700

In comparable matches, Amoko/02 seem well ahead of the shocking FK Fortuna/Ogre.

Aytrau v Shakhter Karagandy
semi final leg 2 (Karagandy lead 1-0 on aggregate)

The teams met at the weekend, with Shakhter winning 2-0. The last meeting at Aytrau was back in April, a 3-3 draw.

Shakhter Karagandy or draw @2/1 (bet365)

Uefa Champions League qualifier
Linfield v La Fiorita
Both teams to score-no @evens (betfred)

La Fiorita have been in Europe the past 5 seasons, champs league x1 and Europa x4. In them 10 matches they have just scored the once in a 5-1 defeat to Vaduz from Switzerland (Liechtenstein's representative).

Linfield never played a team from San Marino, they have played teams from the Faroese league in 4 of the last 5 campaigns, in the home matches they kept 3/4 clean sheets. If you go back to 2008, Linfield have some impressive clean sheets, including Rosenborg, Elfsborg and AEL Limassol.

Though't this might interest folk on here. Been running a few simulations.

European roulette has 37 numbers and pays 35/1(36.0)

This is a house margin of 2.7%

What is quite amazing is how long it takes to empirically demonstrate the margin.

Betting your lucky number, spin after spin. Even after 36,000 bets, through nothing other than luck it is not uncommon to be in profit. It takes around 500,000 spins to accurately demonstrate a 2.7% loss.

It probably indicates, just how destructively folk play the FOBT roulette machines. The behaviour is to exhaust you cash through unsustainable bets, that wipe 100% of your cash, such that you have to leave the shop. Ironically if you had an infinite cash roll, you'd only be on average 2.7% down, in fact statistically over around 36,000 spins there is a very high probability of drifting back in to profit.

Surely it must still be more common to show a loss than a profit after 36000 bets?

The house 0 must have as good a chance as any of the punter numbers of being in "profit" after 36000 bets (appearing more than 1-in-36 is their profit).

I imagine most numbers would hover around the break even point, and there would be a bell curve with the bigger profit/loss numbers at either end.

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 18 minutes ago
Surely it must still be more common to show a loss than a profit after 36000 bets?

The house 0 must have as good a chance as any of the punter numbers of being in "profit" after 36000 bets (appearing more than 1-in-36 is their profit).

I imagine most numbers would hover around the break even point, and there would be a bell curve with the bigger profit/loss numbers at either end.
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Most certainly. But during a prolonged run, typically it drifts into a lucky streak at some point.

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 18 minutes ago
Surely it must still be more common to show a loss than a profit after 36000 bets?

The house 0 must have as good a chance as any of the punter numbers of being in "profit" after 36000 bets (appearing more than 1-in-36 is their profit).

I imagine most numbers would hover around the break even point, and there would be a bell curve with the bigger profit/loss numbers at either end.
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Most certainly. But during a prolonged run, typically it drifts into a lucky streak at some point.
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Ah, yes. Not a set 36k cycle.

The one I think of is betting big on Red (or black), then doubling your stake for every loss. At some point you will get a huge win.

The problem here would be encountering a not uncommon run against you and running out of funds

Over 20,000 bets I've seen 2.5% profit as well as 8% loss. It takes massive number of spins to get, the perfect -2.7% average demonstrated

bet 365 have messed up their womens under 20 basketball, you can bet on the hungary and spain games being over, both need just 20 more points to win with a whole quater left which is nothing

*total points over

both were stuck on half time values but both games had a high scoring 3rd quater

hungary game over 140.5 and spain game over 115.5

if you can get on worth a go stil

ok they just caught up, made £800 off the spain game as i cashed out for a tenner less, if my double comes in i make £2.5K from that

Nice. I was in the pub. Missed it.

the earlier game messed up too, next ones on at half 7, will keep an eye on it

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 8 minutes ago
the earlier game messed up too, next ones on at half 7, will keep an eye on it
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Try and nail them

the hungary game had a terrible final quater but it was still over by 1 point so alls fine, spain game finished 30 points over

With you winnings you can buy a few "r"s ...

"Quarter".

wum of hell

It just began to annoy me after the 4th time

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 18 minutes ago
Surely it must still be more common to show a loss than a profit after 36000 bets?

The house 0 must have as good a chance as any of the punter numbers of being in "profit" after 36000 bets (appearing more than 1-in-36 is their profit).

I imagine most numbers would hover around the break even point, and there would be a bell curve with the bigger profit/loss numbers at either end.
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Most certainly. But during a prolonged run, typically it drifts into a lucky streak at some point.
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Ah, yes. Not a set 36k cycle.

The one I think of is betting big on Red (or black), then doubling your stake for every loss. At some point you will get a huge win.

The problem here would be encountering a not uncommon run against you and running out of funds

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If you're gonna do that then you should do two sets of 12, which gives you around 65% chance rather than around 48%.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 18 minutes ago
Surely it must still be more common to show a loss than a profit after 36000 bets?

The house 0 must have as good a chance as any of the punter numbers of being in "profit" after 36000 bets (appearing more than 1-in-36 is their profit).

I imagine most numbers would hover around the break even point, and there would be a bell curve with the bigger profit/loss numbers at either end.
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Most certainly. But during a prolonged run, typically it drifts into a lucky streak at some point.
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Ah, yes. Not a set 36k cycle.

The one I think of is betting big on Red (or black), then doubling your stake for every loss. At some point you will get a huge win.

The problem here would be encountering a not uncommon run against you and running out of funds

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If you're gonna do that then you should do two sets of 12, which gives you around 65% chance rather than around 48%.
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I don't get this.

I've never conned bet365, just last Saturday night had this-

We are contacting you regarding bet ID xxxxxxxxxxx placed at the odds of 13/5 on Atletico Rafaela (Half Time Result Atletico Rafaela v Quilmes) which you cashed out. We have identified that the cash out amount offered was incorrect due to an incorrect price and as such, in accordance with our rules, the bet will be resettled at the correct cash out amount. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Rafaela had just scored a penalty (they had streaming), yet they opened the betting as if no goal had been scored. Only put a tenner on too.

I've tried duplicates in the past all well under the max bet limit, all voided.

Also games where the result is already known and again voided.

comment by Sir Kenneth Bates (U8238)
posted 1 minute ago
I've never conned bet365, just last Saturday night had this-

We are contacting you regarding bet ID xxxxxxxxxxx placed at the odds of 13/5 on Atletico Rafaela (Half Time Result Atletico Rafaela v Quilmes) which you cashed out. We have identified that the cash out amount offered was incorrect due to an incorrect price and as such, in accordance with our rules, the bet will be resettled at the correct cash out amount. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Rafaela had just scored a penalty (they had streaming), yet they opened the betting as if no goal had been scored. Only put a tenner on too.

I've tried duplicates in the past all well under the max bet limit, all voided.

Also games where the result is already known and again voided.
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Ah feck. I've had luck with bet victor and mcbookie with in play mistakes. The last ones being soccer aid delay before goal and Scotland women vs Iceland women getting the wrong team 1 up