Coincidence.
We lost the 11/12 title by the closest margin imaginable.
And (IMO) we would've won it in 09/10 had Rooney not got injured against Bayern.
Agree with bloodred. We only lost that 11/12 title because of that Everton game. Still annoys me today. Without Rooneys goals we would have been miles away.
And gerrards back pass lost us the 09/10 title.
That stat in some ways shows us how important Rooney has been to us.
Valencia miss against Blackburn was the blow that cost us the 09-10 season title.
Could it be that United didn't win those titles partly because in those campaigns Rooney was the only forward that was firing?
Is the team better off with another goalscorer and Rooney performing as a supporting act? (in terms of goals)
I think in at least 3 of those seasons we suffered not because of Rooney but because of our poor midfield.
In 11/12 we had a poor midfield and only really started picking up result after result once Scholes came out of retirement.
In 09/10 Carrick had his poorest season and Fletcher started his decline from illness. Scholes was pushing on and giggs was having his some good /some bad games in there.
And last season we just had a poor side all the way through.
United's midfield was nothing to write home about in 10/11 and 12/13 as well but they still won the league with Berbatov and Van Persie doing the business....
To be fair we would have won in 10 and 12 but for the tiniest of margins. Nothing to do with Rooney who did his job well.
One of Fletcher best seasons was in 09-10 season and that was the season he appeared in the most premierleague games whilst he was at Man utd.
Berbatov was a small part in 10/11 season, I think after January he barely even played a game. Hernandez was key to 10/11 title. Berbatov goals came in a few games.
comment by Hafi's Man Utd Red Devils 14/15 LVG MUFC FACup+3rd The Posh PUFC 14/15 Promotion. Not Arrogant Just Better! (U6578)
posted 12 minutes ago
Valencia miss against Blackburn was the blow that cost us the 09-10 season title.
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This still irks me. Brilliant ball by Berbatov, all Valencia had to do was guide it in
Berbatov was a small part in 10/11 season, I think after January he barely even played a game. Hernandez was key to 10/11 title. Berbatov goals came in a few games.
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To an extent I agree, it was more of a shared role with Hernandez finishing the job, but Berbatov certainly played his part even if his 21 league goals were rather clustered.
DP I still remember SAF reaction of him moving his hands up and down being so frustrated in 1st half. That was our best chance that match. We huffed and puffed thereafter but we didn't blow the house down. It was even more annoyong we managed to beat Arsenal Tottenham Man city home and away that season but dropped silly points to Sunderland Burnley Aston Villa.
Had we won those titles, the premier league would've become like the French League back in the early 2000s. It was good that we lost it, made the titles we won season after even sweeter.
No it was not good we lost it. Stopped us winning 7 league titles in a row and we led the 09/10 and 11/12 season with like 4 or 5 games to go.
I rather it be the french league as it means more fun for us utd fans. Its also the way we lost those titles that hurt even more, having in your grasp and letting it go.
RVP was not a United player in any of those seasons and his (neglible) presence didn't lead to our manger playing Rooney in midfield.
But there's a new philosophy coming our way
Hmm... 09/10 was one of the worst seasons Rooney and the team has ever had stylistically. He could not control a ball, or beat his man. See a collection of the goals and it was tap ins and headers, great finishes but not great football. I remember once he scored hattrick or even more, did not win the MOTM, it was hilarious. That was the season own goal was the 2nd or 3rd highest goalscorer for the season. Was the beginning of the "painful football era" we have been stuck with for the last 6 years.
Fact: Rooney has not been the undisputed best player for a championship winning team at least recently.
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posted on 27/2/15
Coincidence.
We lost the 11/12 title by the closest margin imaginable.
And (IMO) we would've won it in 09/10 had Rooney not got injured against Bayern.
posted on 27/2/15
Agree with bloodred. We only lost that 11/12 title because of that Everton game. Still annoys me today. Without Rooneys goals we would have been miles away.
And gerrards back pass lost us the 09/10 title.
That stat in some ways shows us how important Rooney has been to us.
posted on 27/2/15
Valencia miss against Blackburn was the blow that cost us the 09-10 season title.
posted on 27/2/15
Could it be that United didn't win those titles partly because in those campaigns Rooney was the only forward that was firing?
Is the team better off with another goalscorer and Rooney performing as a supporting act? (in terms of goals)
posted on 27/2/15
I think in at least 3 of those seasons we suffered not because of Rooney but because of our poor midfield.
In 11/12 we had a poor midfield and only really started picking up result after result once Scholes came out of retirement.
In 09/10 Carrick had his poorest season and Fletcher started his decline from illness. Scholes was pushing on and giggs was having his some good /some bad games in there.
And last season we just had a poor side all the way through.
posted on 27/2/15
United's midfield was nothing to write home about in 10/11 and 12/13 as well but they still won the league with Berbatov and Van Persie doing the business....
posted on 27/2/15
To be fair we would have won in 10 and 12 but for the tiniest of margins. Nothing to do with Rooney who did his job well.
posted on 27/2/15
One of Fletcher best seasons was in 09-10 season and that was the season he appeared in the most premierleague games whilst he was at Man utd.
posted on 27/2/15
Berbatov was a small part in 10/11 season, I think after January he barely even played a game. Hernandez was key to 10/11 title. Berbatov goals came in a few games.
posted on 27/2/15
comment by Hafi's Man Utd Red Devils 14/15 LVG MUFC FACup+3rd The Posh PUFC 14/15 Promotion. Not Arrogant Just Better! (U6578)
posted 12 minutes ago
Valencia miss against Blackburn was the blow that cost us the 09-10 season title.
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This still irks me. Brilliant ball by Berbatov, all Valencia had to do was guide it in
posted on 27/2/15
Berbatov was a small part in 10/11 season, I think after January he barely even played a game. Hernandez was key to 10/11 title. Berbatov goals came in a few games.
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To an extent I agree, it was more of a shared role with Hernandez finishing the job, but Berbatov certainly played his part even if his 21 league goals were rather clustered.
posted on 27/2/15
DP I still remember SAF reaction of him moving his hands up and down being so frustrated in 1st half. That was our best chance that match. We huffed and puffed thereafter but we didn't blow the house down. It was even more annoyong we managed to beat Arsenal Tottenham Man city home and away that season but dropped silly points to Sunderland Burnley Aston Villa.
posted on 27/2/15
Had we won those titles, the premier league would've become like the French League back in the early 2000s. It was good that we lost it, made the titles we won season after even sweeter.
posted on 28/2/15
No it was not good we lost it. Stopped us winning 7 league titles in a row and we led the 09/10 and 11/12 season with like 4 or 5 games to go.
I rather it be the french league as it means more fun for us utd fans. Its also the way we lost those titles that hurt even more, having in your grasp and letting it go.
posted on 28/2/15
RVP was not a United player in any of those seasons and his (neglible) presence didn't lead to our manger playing Rooney in midfield.
But there's a new philosophy coming our way
posted on 28/2/15
Hmm... 09/10 was one of the worst seasons Rooney and the team has ever had stylistically. He could not control a ball, or beat his man. See a collection of the goals and it was tap ins and headers, great finishes but not great football. I remember once he scored hattrick or even more, did not win the MOTM, it was hilarious. That was the season own goal was the 2nd or 3rd highest goalscorer for the season. Was the beginning of the "painful football era" we have been stuck with for the last 6 years.
Fact: Rooney has not been the undisputed best player for a championship winning team at least recently.
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