Well Welbeck has actually been at United longer than Lampard was at Chelsea.
Just a decent portion of it was as a youngster in the youth and reserve teams. Welbeck is also a United fan as well which would play a small part in it.
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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^^this
All depends on the context for me.
I have never had a problem with returning players celebrating, they owe the fans of the club they play for.
In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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Actually, I don't think the new club's fans tend to mind, but worse than that, I think it's a bit patronising to the old club.
If a player leaves my club I'd rather he didn't pretend. (It may well be sincere, but there's no way of knowing, and even if it is sincere, it's still patronising).
Why's it an insult to celebrate ?
When an opponent scores, you can see some individuals who can't take it anyway, regardless of whether it's an ex-player: face screwed up in hatred, giving it the fingers, etc.
But most fans can take it, so give it some welly, I don't care. When we score, we'll give it some welly back...
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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Or just blokes with dignity? This is professional football we are talking about, like the straight up most desirable occupation a man could have. If a player doesn't feel totally comfortable celebrating scoring against a team they felt gave them a once in a lifetime opportunity to play football at the top level then so what?
Doesn't make them a bad person it just makes them human. Conversely if they want celebrate I have no probelm with that at all, long as its tasteful. Adabeyor a player who left us for a huge pay check at city then running the length of the pitch to rub it in the faces of a couple thousands fans who used to pay his wages just shows an utter lack of class.
RVP celebrating with his team mates after scoring a goal against his old team whilst five thousand blokes have been calling him a rapist, is absolutely fine.
Welbeck was celebrating his goal FOR ARSENAL just as much as he was celebrating scoring AGAINST UNITED. This is a guy who hasn't had the best time since coming down south and still a great deal of the fan base is undecided about him. That was his first goal since November and scoring a winning goal that will book his team into the semi finals of the FA cup is worth celebrating no matter who the opposition is.
It all depends on the nature of why the player left in the first place. In welbecks case, it want a move on his part, it was the clubs choice. I imagine there was a lot of pent up emotion released when he scored that goal. It was a "see? I am good enough" type of celebration.
RVP and his first goal against arsenal was slightly different as he orchestrated the move away, no need to antagonise the fanbase further. Now it's been a couple of years, I wouldn't see an issue. Other players may leave in good circumstances and so who wouldn't probably ever celebrate (Lampard against Chelsea) and I don't see that as an issue either.
All about the context.
I doubt ex players will ever get the opportunity to celebrate a goal.
Short Answer : It depends on the situation.
Long Answer :
If you had no choice but to leave or were booted and told publicly that you're surplus to requirements because you don't score enough goals... .Yes, most definitely.
If you've been given your first breakthrough chance by that club, or perhaps have been nurtured through years of expensive treatment while being paid millions to sit around being massaged and watching matches from sidelines before a short period of good form and then suddenly forced an exit for monetary/glory reasons... Perhaps in this situation it would be reasonable to play down your celebration.
I can't not celebrate scoring in 5 a side
of course you celebrate
you probably don't want to do a 10 yard slide with your shirt over your head followed by that caterpillar break dancing move, but you can celebrate. It would be unnatural not to
I don't think I could celebrate against Liverpool. I've never played for them though
It depends. Did the player spend years with the former club and left in a respectful way? Then of course, if the player wants to respect his former clubs' fans then he shouldn't celebrate.
Did the former club get rid of the player citing that he wasn't good enough? Well in that case I'd stick my two arms in the air and run the length of the pitch and back along the touch line in front of the person who said it.
I think he handled it well. Celebrated just the right amount. Anyone looking at him could see he was happy he'd scored but sad he might have put Utd out.
Any Utd fan who says it was wrong is being utterly ridiculous. It was a low key, quick jump up and down and cheer. After the way LVG dissed him, he had the right to be somersaulting and flippin LVG the bird, if he wanted to, but ya know what...
OUT OF RESPECT for Utd he didn't, so shut up. He's showed Utd and LVG more respect than they ever showed him
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posted on 10/3/15
*no issues
posted on 10/3/15
Well Welbeck has actually been at United longer than Lampard was at Chelsea.
Just a decent portion of it was as a youngster in the youth and reserve teams. Welbeck is also a United fan as well which would play a small part in it.
posted on 10/3/15
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
posted on 10/3/15
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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^^this
posted on 10/3/15
All depends on the context for me.
posted on 10/3/15
I have never had a problem with returning players celebrating, they owe the fans of the club they play for.
posted on 10/3/15
In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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Actually, I don't think the new club's fans tend to mind, but worse than that, I think it's a bit patronising to the old club.
If a player leaves my club I'd rather he didn't pretend. (It may well be sincere, but there's no way of knowing, and even if it is sincere, it's still patronising).
Why's it an insult to celebrate ?
When an opponent scores, you can see some individuals who can't take it anyway, regardless of whether it's an ex-player: face screwed up in hatred, giving it the fingers, etc.
But most fans can take it, so give it some welly, I don't care. When we score, we'll give it some welly back...
posted on 10/3/15
Players who do not celebrate scoring against former clubs are pathetic pretentious kaants. In fact, I find it disrespectful to your new club.
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Or just blokes with dignity? This is professional football we are talking about, like the straight up most desirable occupation a man could have. If a player doesn't feel totally comfortable celebrating scoring against a team they felt gave them a once in a lifetime opportunity to play football at the top level then so what?
Doesn't make them a bad person it just makes them human. Conversely if they want celebrate I have no probelm with that at all, long as its tasteful. Adabeyor a player who left us for a huge pay check at city then running the length of the pitch to rub it in the faces of a couple thousands fans who used to pay his wages just shows an utter lack of class.
RVP celebrating with his team mates after scoring a goal against his old team whilst five thousand blokes have been calling him a rapist, is absolutely fine.
Welbeck was celebrating his goal FOR ARSENAL just as much as he was celebrating scoring AGAINST UNITED. This is a guy who hasn't had the best time since coming down south and still a great deal of the fan base is undecided about him. That was his first goal since November and scoring a winning goal that will book his team into the semi finals of the FA cup is worth celebrating no matter who the opposition is.
posted on 10/3/15
It all depends on the nature of why the player left in the first place. In welbecks case, it want a move on his part, it was the clubs choice. I imagine there was a lot of pent up emotion released when he scored that goal. It was a "see? I am good enough" type of celebration.
RVP and his first goal against arsenal was slightly different as he orchestrated the move away, no need to antagonise the fanbase further. Now it's been a couple of years, I wouldn't see an issue. Other players may leave in good circumstances and so who wouldn't probably ever celebrate (Lampard against Chelsea) and I don't see that as an issue either.
All about the context.
posted on 10/3/15
Adebeyor
posted on 10/3/15
I doubt ex players will ever get the opportunity to celebrate a goal.
posted on 10/3/15
Short Answer : It depends on the situation.
Long Answer :
If you had no choice but to leave or were booted and told publicly that you're surplus to requirements because you don't score enough goals... .Yes, most definitely.
If you've been given your first breakthrough chance by that club, or perhaps have been nurtured through years of expensive treatment while being paid millions to sit around being massaged and watching matches from sidelines before a short period of good form and then suddenly forced an exit for monetary/glory reasons... Perhaps in this situation it would be reasonable to play down your celebration.
posted on 10/3/15
I can't not celebrate scoring in 5 a side
of course you celebrate
you probably don't want to do a 10 yard slide with your shirt over your head followed by that caterpillar break dancing move, but you can celebrate. It would be unnatural not to
posted on 10/3/15
I don't think I could celebrate against Liverpool. I've never played for them though
posted on 11/3/15
It depends. Did the player spend years with the former club and left in a respectful way? Then of course, if the player wants to respect his former clubs' fans then he shouldn't celebrate.
Did the former club get rid of the player citing that he wasn't good enough? Well in that case I'd stick my two arms in the air and run the length of the pitch and back along the touch line in front of the person who said it.
posted on 11/3/15
I think he handled it well. Celebrated just the right amount. Anyone looking at him could see he was happy he'd scored but sad he might have put Utd out.
Any Utd fan who says it was wrong is being utterly ridiculous. It was a low key, quick jump up and down and cheer. After the way LVG dissed him, he had the right to be somersaulting and flippin LVG the bird, if he wanted to, but ya know what...
OUT OF RESPECT for Utd he didn't, so shut up. He's showed Utd and LVG more respect than they ever showed him
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