is your real name Alan Young?
Both you and Alan Young are spot on - Sven very nearly cost us 2 points there for a second week running. We played pretty well first half - not utterly brilliantly but we were comfortable and easily warranted a 2 goal lead. We played like relegation candidates in the second half and it was all brought about by a totally maddening and seemingly senseless formation change. Schlupp and Vass who gave the So'ton defence all kinds of nightmares in the first half were totally isolated and lost as a result - they might as well have not been on the pitch for the second half.
It's perfectly simple Sven - play 4-4-2 and we'll win far more matches than we lose this season - persist with 4-3-3 and I fear the opposite will be true. It just doesn't suit our players and they don't suit it.
I am now starting to wonder about Sven. As foreverafox says, he did this time and time again with England but it doesn't seem to have changed his mind. If Schmeichel hadn't been in between the sticks I think we'd have been on the end of a loss today.
If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Now now, don't question the greatness that is Sven!!
no but we both know what we are talking about
My best guess would be that against Forest with the diamond we failed to see out the game (though that has to be said that was partly down to factors beyond our control) so Sven wanted to put the three central midfileders narrow and the wide players as well just to sure us up a bit. Obviously that didn't work and we just kept losing the ball as when it went to Vas up top he had no-one to pass to. So there is a part of me that can understand why he did it.
But it has to be said that the diamond looks our best system. Did Stringer ask Sven about the formation change in his post-match interview?
sven has always said we havent the players for 4-4-2.
well when nugent plays. we do actually play vassel /nugent in a 4-4-2, then nugent goes off and we revert back into a 4-5-1. i have heard him say many times that he prefers the 4-4-2 so i can see that vassel will end up on the bench once we get that secret striker in
Absolutely crazy Sven. For the second week running he handed the inititiative to the opposition, Why can't he see it? WHY?
Yes, he did, Greatness. Sven made a lame reply and gave me the impression that he knew very well that the change had contributed to the second half turning into the Alamo. His remarks are on the LCFC site now.
OK, not quite the Alamo, because we didn't lose. But you know what I mean.
If we are going to insist on changing to 4-5-1 then we need an outlet ball to someone who can hold the ball up with their back to goal - or at least win it in the air. Vassell is about 5' 6" FFS.
Howard could do this job or the Yak if we brought him back in. We don't have anyone, currently, who can play this role. So please Sven - stop trying!
SVEN PLAY 4-4-2 AND STOP MESSING ABOUT WITH THE TEAM.??????
I said the same thing.As soon as they scored their 1st goal thats when i noticed the change.
This is the 1 thing i've noticed with Sven.Instead of keeping the pressure on Southampton he chenged to 4-5-1 and that just invited them to come on to us.
If you can remember back to the World cup in South Korea when we played Brazil and were 1-0 up,he changed the formation then to try to hold on to the lead.Even when Brazil went down to 10 men instead of putting them under pressure.If i remember rightly he put on Phil Nevellie.And the rest they say is history.We ended up losing 2-1.
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posted on 27/8/11
is your real name Alan Young?
posted on 27/8/11
Both you and Alan Young are spot on - Sven very nearly cost us 2 points there for a second week running. We played pretty well first half - not utterly brilliantly but we were comfortable and easily warranted a 2 goal lead. We played like relegation candidates in the second half and it was all brought about by a totally maddening and seemingly senseless formation change. Schlupp and Vass who gave the So'ton defence all kinds of nightmares in the first half were totally isolated and lost as a result - they might as well have not been on the pitch for the second half.
It's perfectly simple Sven - play 4-4-2 and we'll win far more matches than we lose this season - persist with 4-3-3 and I fear the opposite will be true. It just doesn't suit our players and they don't suit it.
posted on 27/8/11
I am now starting to wonder about Sven. As foreverafox says, he did this time and time again with England but it doesn't seem to have changed his mind. If Schmeichel hadn't been in between the sticks I think we'd have been on the end of a loss today.
If it ain't broke don't fix it!
posted on 27/8/11
Now now, don't question the greatness that is Sven!!
posted on 27/8/11
no but we both know what we are talking about
posted on 27/8/11
My best guess would be that against Forest with the diamond we failed to see out the game (though that has to be said that was partly down to factors beyond our control) so Sven wanted to put the three central midfileders narrow and the wide players as well just to sure us up a bit. Obviously that didn't work and we just kept losing the ball as when it went to Vas up top he had no-one to pass to. So there is a part of me that can understand why he did it.
But it has to be said that the diamond looks our best system. Did Stringer ask Sven about the formation change in his post-match interview?
posted on 27/8/11
sven has always said we havent the players for 4-4-2.
well when nugent plays. we do actually play vassel /nugent in a 4-4-2, then nugent goes off and we revert back into a 4-5-1. i have heard him say many times that he prefers the 4-4-2 so i can see that vassel will end up on the bench once we get that secret striker in
posted on 27/8/11
Absolutely crazy Sven. For the second week running he handed the inititiative to the opposition, Why can't he see it? WHY?
posted on 27/8/11
Yes, he did, Greatness. Sven made a lame reply and gave me the impression that he knew very well that the change had contributed to the second half turning into the Alamo. His remarks are on the LCFC site now.
OK, not quite the Alamo, because we didn't lose. But you know what I mean.
posted on 27/8/11
If we are going to insist on changing to 4-5-1 then we need an outlet ball to someone who can hold the ball up with their back to goal - or at least win it in the air. Vassell is about 5' 6" FFS.
Howard could do this job or the Yak if we brought him back in. We don't have anyone, currently, who can play this role. So please Sven - stop trying!
posted on 28/8/11
SVEN PLAY 4-4-2 AND STOP MESSING ABOUT WITH THE TEAM.??????
posted on 28/8/11
I said the same thing.As soon as they scored their 1st goal thats when i noticed the change.
This is the 1 thing i've noticed with Sven.Instead of keeping the pressure on Southampton he chenged to 4-5-1 and that just invited them to come on to us.
If you can remember back to the World cup in South Korea when we played Brazil and were 1-0 up,he changed the formation then to try to hold on to the lead.Even when Brazil went down to 10 men instead of putting them under pressure.If i remember rightly he put on Phil Nevellie.And the rest they say is history.We ended up losing 2-1.
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