There are arguments in everything, some will agree and some won't, that's life!..
Eric, I'm sure if you want Jonty's autograph and a poster you can get in touch with him direct, he might even be honored to give you one!.
Now back to the fiasco that is our club, Cellino, yep Eric, we know him, wanted Elland Road back, sold our top scorer after saying money was set aside for Elland Road, so, money set aside and money for top scorer, stands for strange reading if looked at from the living side of things!..
Put the club on its own two feet so to say, that will be seen sooner rather than later if he sells up!..
If a bid has been made, can he flog the club while at the same time selling our youths like the Master Bates would have?..
That's an interesting one, can he sell them while selling the club?..
And what do Gfh think of things?..
I know, I'm use to people not answering so you's don't have to!.
Eric, I'm sure if you want Jonty's autograph and a poster you can get in touch with him direct, he might even be honored to give you one!.
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You say this tongue in cheek, but you know its true!
He'd not be able to give me one all the time I have breath in my body...! He might want to, I just want his autograph.
It's probably just a cross anyway.
Eric, there's some people around these parts that think the same as you, but there are also some that think he's said it how it is and stood by everything he has said!..
Pro-Cellino, I was one always on the fence but had a great disbelieve in him with his manager stance, he's proven time and again he thinks "coaches" are the way forward, for him maybe but I'd argue a manager should have full control of team affairs and given a say in who should come and go!..
So, has he sorted the finances out like he says he has, and what has happened to the Ross "and" Elland Road money?..
He put the old Gfh wall between him and his Elland Road promise, but hey, whatever the truth was, he didn't deliver his promise!..
Player's and contracts, who said our top scorer couldn't play?..
I think Redder's even knows he'd be a fool not to play his top scorer!..
Odd things going on around Elland Road, but hey, people can slag people of left right and center around here, but truth is, sometimes people say it as they know it, someone will always get upset!..
Its coming to light Jonty as much as you want to slam him and as much as you want to bring him against people that stand by him a lot of what he says is right!..
Do you think Cellino is as good for this club as you backed him to be?..
I am now seeing someone that has brought the world against our club, and that is funny considering that somebody is always challenging the world to prove he is wrong!..
LufcGermany
Do you think Cellino is as good for this club as you backed him to be?..
I have always said that he's bonkers and that I had no idea where he would take us. I still consider him better than Bates and GFH.
I think he's improved our position as a team.
Funnily enough I'll continue to support Leeds United all the time he's here and I'll back him all the time he's here. Just as I always back Steve Morison to score.
Funny how many of the stalwart Cellino apologists were also in Bates corner almost until the very end/the very end.
Not me. Never wanted the bearded wonder. Didn't want Got Feckin Holes (in their finances) either.
Strange how most of the stalwart apologists are also the ones that do what the definition of an 'apologist' states
"a person who offers a defence by argument"
Not a buffoon that hides behind a filter like you and Jonty JLA, making snidy comments and backing each other up without fear of confrontation.
Still each to their own.
I know where I prefer to stand.
At least some of us argue the point, that's the point of a forum for most folk.
Stevie Dee
Methinks the big girls blouse has me in mind not you.
Jonny, that's a broad brush you're using there.
I hated/hate Bates.
I gave GFH the benefit mainly cos they seemingly kicked Bates to the curb.
I gave MC the benefit mainly because unlike the other two previous he understood and loved football. And seemingly, wanted the best for the team on the pitch.
I'm also pro the Leeds Fans bid to buy into the club.
I go with what I believe is right.
No agenda.
But, to reiterate: I hate Bates
Sorry for posting and disappearing every now and again, but I have to watch out for the Mrs in between this lot!.
Eric, I'm not pushing for a fight here, you see things your way I do mine, the same as Jonty see's it his way!..
I don't agree with the argument about him improving the team, he made the coaches play his Diamond, and the player's he stuck in at the start were not right for the player's already here, if he'd done his homework he'd have seen the only way to make that work would be to leave the academy lads where some around here think they should be and brought in a complete new made in Italy team, that way he might have got the Diamond right!..
Player's brought in and player's already here were not the right mix for his way of playing!..
Wingers, if he'd got that right he could have had us in the mix!..
Money, Elland Road, top goal scorer not playing, nothing there I'll blame Redder's for like he seems to get done for everything all the time!..
Argument's, what would life be without them?..
"Not a buffoon that hides behind a filter like you and Jonty JLA, making snidy comments and backing each other up without fear of confrontation."
That must come somewhere on the lines of them that start threads of to slate others eh?..
Cellino, I like you back him, not because of what he's to some supposed to have done, but because I like many follow this club through thick and thin, and to me anyone can be in charge!..
Bates, I remember what he said about Leeds United the same as I remember him wanting to electrocute the fans of one of our then biggest rivals, and I hated him as much as any Leeds fan, when he came to us I was one of the biggest "give him a chance" bods, it didn't take long to change that opinion!..
Gfh, I thought we were onto a winner with them, another mistake by another Leeds fan!..
Cellino, came in with the words many wanted to hear, I listened but said from the start, "I do not agree with his stance on manager's", a manager is a manager and should be given the respect his job deserves!.
Jonty, everybody's stance against one person because he took time to look at things and most/all of what he has stated is now coming to light, and you know what, some should be standing back and taking deep breaths, because the way its going it's going to put a lot in their places!..
Funny that, one of them will be the one that wants your autograph and poster!.
Cellino is a rich man with a rich mans toy, if its right about who's being talked about, what a way out for him, his happiness will leave Bates a broken man!..
Here's hoping if it happens that whoever it is is with the means and know how to take us that step further, they want to make on this club, they have to feed the fire to feel the warmth!.
Cellino out!..
batty, I agree it is a broad statement but I did use the qualifier "many."
I,like Germany was willing to give each one a chance but did not take me too long to decide I did not trust or like any of them. I took longer than some, but was astounded that a small number backed them all to the very end. As we can see, there are still some believing Cellino had nothing to do with the events over the last few days. Couldn't make it up.
For the record, I didn't and still don't consider you one of those.
Jonny, I'll admit, my glass half full approach to
LUFC wanted and hoped MC was just what we needed. And he has instigated a lot of good while here. But final straw for me was undermining the one thing I place above all else: the team and specifically the team on the pitch. MC did that by cropping Thommo and in turn NR. Add to that the rumours that our academy lads are on the market and well, fuq MC.
I like him (up to a point) and have given him plenty of rope. But that's all exhausted now. Unless facts come to light that despite all the snippets we've heard.
True, batty, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
He started positively (if one omits the BeeMac debacle) but it went downhill fast.
Big picture, this man is not good for our club but some still say "let's wait and see."
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posted on 4/4/15
There are arguments in everything, some will agree and some won't, that's life!..
Eric, I'm sure if you want Jonty's autograph and a poster you can get in touch with him direct, he might even be honored to give you one!.
Now back to the fiasco that is our club, Cellino, yep Eric, we know him, wanted Elland Road back, sold our top scorer after saying money was set aside for Elland Road, so, money set aside and money for top scorer, stands for strange reading if looked at from the living side of things!..
Put the club on its own two feet so to say, that will be seen sooner rather than later if he sells up!..
If a bid has been made, can he flog the club while at the same time selling our youths like the Master Bates would have?..
That's an interesting one, can he sell them while selling the club?..
And what do Gfh think of things?..
I know, I'm use to people not answering so you's don't have to!.
posted on 4/4/15
Eric, I'm sure if you want Jonty's autograph and a poster you can get in touch with him direct, he might even be honored to give you one!.
...........................................
You say this tongue in cheek, but you know its true!
posted on 4/4/15
He'd not be able to give me one all the time I have breath in my body...! He might want to, I just want his autograph.
It's probably just a cross anyway.
posted on 4/4/15
Eric, there's some people around these parts that think the same as you, but there are also some that think he's said it how it is and stood by everything he has said!..
Pro-Cellino, I was one always on the fence but had a great disbelieve in him with his manager stance, he's proven time and again he thinks "coaches" are the way forward, for him maybe but I'd argue a manager should have full control of team affairs and given a say in who should come and go!..
So, has he sorted the finances out like he says he has, and what has happened to the Ross "and" Elland Road money?..
He put the old Gfh wall between him and his Elland Road promise, but hey, whatever the truth was, he didn't deliver his promise!..
Player's and contracts, who said our top scorer couldn't play?..
I think Redder's even knows he'd be a fool not to play his top scorer!..
Odd things going on around Elland Road, but hey, people can slag people of left right and center around here, but truth is, sometimes people say it as they know it, someone will always get upset!..
Its coming to light Jonty as much as you want to slam him and as much as you want to bring him against people that stand by him a lot of what he says is right!..
Do you think Cellino is as good for this club as you backed him to be?..
I am now seeing someone that has brought the world against our club, and that is funny considering that somebody is always challenging the world to prove he is wrong!..
posted on 4/4/15
LufcGermany
Do you think Cellino is as good for this club as you backed him to be?..
I have always said that he's bonkers and that I had no idea where he would take us. I still consider him better than Bates and GFH.
I think he's improved our position as a team.
Funnily enough I'll continue to support Leeds United all the time he's here and I'll back him all the time he's here. Just as I always back Steve Morison to score.
posted on 4/4/15
Funny how many of the stalwart Cellino apologists were also in Bates corner almost until the very end/the very end.
posted on 4/4/15
Not me. Never wanted the bearded wonder. Didn't want Got Feckin Holes (in their finances) either.
posted on 4/4/15
Strange how most of the stalwart apologists are also the ones that do what the definition of an 'apologist' states
"a person who offers a defence by argument"
Not a buffoon that hides behind a filter like you and Jonty JLA, making snidy comments and backing each other up without fear of confrontation.
Still each to their own.
I know where I prefer to stand.
At least some of us argue the point, that's the point of a forum for most folk.
posted on 4/4/15
Stevie Dee
Methinks the big girls blouse has me in mind not you.
posted on 4/4/15
Jonny, that's a broad brush you're using there.
I hated/hate Bates.
I gave GFH the benefit mainly cos they seemingly kicked Bates to the curb.
I gave MC the benefit mainly because unlike the other two previous he understood and loved football. And seemingly, wanted the best for the team on the pitch.
I'm also pro the Leeds Fans bid to buy into the club.
I go with what I believe is right.
No agenda.
But, to reiterate: I hate Bates
posted on 4/4/15
Sorry for posting and disappearing every now and again, but I have to watch out for the Mrs in between this lot!.
Eric, I'm not pushing for a fight here, you see things your way I do mine, the same as Jonty see's it his way!..
I don't agree with the argument about him improving the team, he made the coaches play his Diamond, and the player's he stuck in at the start were not right for the player's already here, if he'd done his homework he'd have seen the only way to make that work would be to leave the academy lads where some around here think they should be and brought in a complete new made in Italy team, that way he might have got the Diamond right!..
Player's brought in and player's already here were not the right mix for his way of playing!..
Wingers, if he'd got that right he could have had us in the mix!..
Money, Elland Road, top goal scorer not playing, nothing there I'll blame Redder's for like he seems to get done for everything all the time!..
Argument's, what would life be without them?..
"Not a buffoon that hides behind a filter like you and Jonty JLA, making snidy comments and backing each other up without fear of confrontation."
That must come somewhere on the lines of them that start threads of to slate others eh?..
Cellino, I like you back him, not because of what he's to some supposed to have done, but because I like many follow this club through thick and thin, and to me anyone can be in charge!..
Bates, I remember what he said about Leeds United the same as I remember him wanting to electrocute the fans of one of our then biggest rivals, and I hated him as much as any Leeds fan, when he came to us I was one of the biggest "give him a chance" bods, it didn't take long to change that opinion!..
Gfh, I thought we were onto a winner with them, another mistake by another Leeds fan!..
Cellino, came in with the words many wanted to hear, I listened but said from the start, "I do not agree with his stance on manager's", a manager is a manager and should be given the respect his job deserves!.
Jonty, everybody's stance against one person because he took time to look at things and most/all of what he has stated is now coming to light, and you know what, some should be standing back and taking deep breaths, because the way its going it's going to put a lot in their places!..
Funny that, one of them will be the one that wants your autograph and poster!.
Cellino is a rich man with a rich mans toy, if its right about who's being talked about, what a way out for him, his happiness will leave Bates a broken man!..
Here's hoping if it happens that whoever it is is with the means and know how to take us that step further, they want to make on this club, they have to feed the fire to feel the warmth!.
Cellino out!..
posted on 4/4/15
batty, I agree it is a broad statement but I did use the qualifier "many."
I,like Germany was willing to give each one a chance but did not take me too long to decide I did not trust or like any of them. I took longer than some, but was astounded that a small number backed them all to the very end. As we can see, there are still some believing Cellino had nothing to do with the events over the last few days. Couldn't make it up.
For the record, I didn't and still don't consider you one of those.
posted on 4/4/15
Jonny, I'll admit, my glass half full approach to
LUFC wanted and hoped MC was just what we needed. And he has instigated a lot of good while here. But final straw for me was undermining the one thing I place above all else: the team and specifically the team on the pitch. MC did that by cropping Thommo and in turn NR. Add to that the rumours that our academy lads are on the market and well, fuq MC.
I like him (up to a point) and have given him plenty of rope. But that's all exhausted now. Unless facts come to light that despite all the snippets we've heard.
posted on 4/4/15
True, batty, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
He started positively (if one omits the BeeMac debacle) but it went downhill fast.
Big picture, this man is not good for our club but some still say "let's wait and see."
posted on 4/4/15
Jonny
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