Townsend is average. Not awful. But would agree with most others.
Seriously, Baldini has set us back so much-no way can we even compete with the top 4 for a few years. We have so little quality!
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and MP has done us what favours?
Then when you look beyond the first team it gets worse. There are so few options there who look like they can push the first team players out:
Lamela - You can count the good games on one hand. A huge flop so far.
Paulinho - Just rubbish. Another flop.
Soldado - As bad as Heskey for a striker (at least with us).
Adebayor - Only good when he can be asked, which is hardly ever.
Chiriches - Looked woeful today. Very average defender.
Fazio - Doesn't look anything other than average.
Dembele - Sometimes looks good and comfortable on the ball. Other times average, but probably should get more of a look in. As it stands he's been a disappointing signing.
Capoue/Stambouli - Should possibly see more of them. What we have seen I'm not sure either will be the solution.
Kaboul - Past it.
I can somewhat sympathise with Poch when without having enough of his own players to bring in, he's resorted to using academy products because he doesn't trust the squad players, and who can blame him when you look at them.
I'm not as worried about our current starting eleven. It's the 10 or so players who should be forcing there way into that side.
They have either been crap when they've come in or have simply disappeared completely... for instance Capoue and Stambouli.
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 38 minutes ago
Seriously, Baldini has set us back so much-no way can we even compete with the top 4 for a few years. We have so little quality!
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and MP has done us what favours?
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Get off his back
and MP has done us what favours?
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Get off his back
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I will when he starts doing the job he is very well paid for properly
He is making mistakes but he is working with a sub standard squad full of young players
OP
Whilst we know the players are very inconsistent, the same players absolutely played Arsenal off the park just a couple of months back. and put five goals past Chelsea also within the last 3 or 4 months. You don't do that if you have completely craap players.
The manager to me has to absolutely shoulder 100 per cent of the blame. When the team looks in need of a shake up, he has pretty well ostracised a lot of players like Dembele, Capoue, Stamboule, Ade, Soldado, etc from playing any meaningful part again this season. When some of the younger players clearly need taking out of the firing line, he keeps playing them. He needs to put his clear personal grudges to one side, he will not be getting any of his own players in until next season, so needs to just start picking more experienced players to steady the ship for now.
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Starting to hate Townsend, he is seriously gash and only turns up for England
Harry
Townsend is distinctly average, but to be fair he always does it for England. So fecking annoying.
Average players.....yes.
But to say mopo not at fault at all is daft....no plan b...don't seem to read the game and adjust accordingly.....and doesn't seem much of a motivator.
In game management very poor at the moment
Too many average players at the club.
We can all forget about competing in the CL for a while. A decade of europa league football beckons unfortunately (for me).
People keep saying no plan b but he changed the system yesterday by having two strikers on the pitch! ( if you can Soldado that )
I can't say I disagreed with Poch's team selection yesterday, other than maybe having Eriksen in a central role, but he seems to be inconsistent no matter what. If Poch is to be blamed for yesterday then you could look at him motivationally. Ultimately a lot of these players wouldn't be good enough whoever manages them, as we've already seen under our 2 previous managers.
He is making mistakes but he is working with a sub standard squad full of young players
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Sorry an all that but its excuses. Yes if he was playing chelsea his players are not good enough but you cant tell me that villa have a better squad than us cos thats crap.
If a manager has better players than the team he is facing and he struggles then he has to takae a major part of the blame.
Our players might not be good enough for top 4 but they are more than good enough to beat the likes of villa and burnley so its not the players ability in question.
It might be their attitude, it might be their commitment but there is also a hell of a good chance that its team selection and tactics which brings MP firmly into the firing line.
Against utd away he needed to make a tactical substitution after 20 minutes, that clearly indicates wrong team selection, wrong tactics or both.
Against Burnley last week we were disgracful, did Burnly have 4 players in the last England squad? No of course they never because their players are not as good as ours. The same applies to villa, they have a massive injury list and dont have the great a squad to begin with so stop talking bolloxs and trying to defend the indefensible.
He is paid a hell of a lot of money NOT to make mistakes if we wanted a novice who was learning as he went along then we could have stuck with Sherwood, who incidentally keeps beating MP when they face each other.
Its not his first ten games he has had about 50 games in charge now and team selection and tactics like we have seen in the last two weeks are not acceptable when you earn as much as he does.
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posted on 11/4/15
Townsend is average. Not awful. But would agree with most others.
posted on 12/4/15
Seriously, Baldini has set us back so much-no way can we even compete with the top 4 for a few years. We have so little quality!
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and MP has done us what favours?
posted on 12/4/15
Then when you look beyond the first team it gets worse. There are so few options there who look like they can push the first team players out:
Lamela - You can count the good games on one hand. A huge flop so far.
Paulinho - Just rubbish. Another flop.
Soldado - As bad as Heskey for a striker (at least with us).
Adebayor - Only good when he can be asked, which is hardly ever.
Chiriches - Looked woeful today. Very average defender.
Fazio - Doesn't look anything other than average.
Dembele - Sometimes looks good and comfortable on the ball. Other times average, but probably should get more of a look in. As it stands he's been a disappointing signing.
Capoue/Stambouli - Should possibly see more of them. What we have seen I'm not sure either will be the solution.
Kaboul - Past it.
I can somewhat sympathise with Poch when without having enough of his own players to bring in, he's resorted to using academy products because he doesn't trust the squad players, and who can blame him when you look at them.
posted on 12/4/15
I'm not as worried about our current starting eleven. It's the 10 or so players who should be forcing there way into that side.
They have either been crap when they've come in or have simply disappeared completely... for instance Capoue and Stambouli.
posted on 12/4/15
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 38 minutes ago
Seriously, Baldini has set us back so much-no way can we even compete with the top 4 for a few years. We have so little quality!
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and MP has done us what favours?
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Get off his back
posted on 12/4/15
and MP has done us what favours?
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Get off his back
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I will when he starts doing the job he is very well paid for properly
posted on 12/4/15
He is making mistakes but he is working with a sub standard squad full of young players
posted on 12/4/15
OP
Whilst we know the players are very inconsistent, the same players absolutely played Arsenal off the park just a couple of months back. and put five goals past Chelsea also within the last 3 or 4 months. You don't do that if you have completely craap players.
The manager to me has to absolutely shoulder 100 per cent of the blame. When the team looks in need of a shake up, he has pretty well ostracised a lot of players like Dembele, Capoue, Stamboule, Ade, Soldado, etc from playing any meaningful part again this season. When some of the younger players clearly need taking out of the firing line, he keeps playing them. He needs to put his clear personal grudges to one side, he will not be getting any of his own players in until next season, so needs to just start picking more experienced players to steady the ship for now.
posted on 12/4/15
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posted on 12/4/15
Starting to hate Townsend, he is seriously gash and only turns up for England
posted on 12/4/15
Harry
Townsend is distinctly average, but to be fair he always does it for England. So fecking annoying.
posted on 12/4/15
Average players.....yes.
But to say mopo not at fault at all is daft....no plan b...don't seem to read the game and adjust accordingly.....and doesn't seem much of a motivator.
posted on 12/4/15
In game management very poor at the moment
posted on 12/4/15
Too many average players at the club.
We can all forget about competing in the CL for a while. A decade of europa league football beckons unfortunately (for me).
posted on 12/4/15
posted on 12/4/15
People keep saying no plan b but he changed the system yesterday by having two strikers on the pitch! ( if you can Soldado that )
posted on 12/4/15
Can call ****
posted on 12/4/15
I can't say I disagreed with Poch's team selection yesterday, other than maybe having Eriksen in a central role, but he seems to be inconsistent no matter what. If Poch is to be blamed for yesterday then you could look at him motivationally. Ultimately a lot of these players wouldn't be good enough whoever manages them, as we've already seen under our 2 previous managers.
posted on 12/4/15
He is making mistakes but he is working with a sub standard squad full of young players
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Sorry an all that but its excuses. Yes if he was playing chelsea his players are not good enough but you cant tell me that villa have a better squad than us cos thats crap.
If a manager has better players than the team he is facing and he struggles then he has to takae a major part of the blame.
Our players might not be good enough for top 4 but they are more than good enough to beat the likes of villa and burnley so its not the players ability in question.
It might be their attitude, it might be their commitment but there is also a hell of a good chance that its team selection and tactics which brings MP firmly into the firing line.
Against utd away he needed to make a tactical substitution after 20 minutes, that clearly indicates wrong team selection, wrong tactics or both.
Against Burnley last week we were disgracful, did Burnly have 4 players in the last England squad? No of course they never because their players are not as good as ours. The same applies to villa, they have a massive injury list and dont have the great a squad to begin with so stop talking bolloxs and trying to defend the indefensible.
He is paid a hell of a lot of money NOT to make mistakes if we wanted a novice who was learning as he went along then we could have stuck with Sherwood, who incidentally keeps beating MP when they face each other.
Its not his first ten games he has had about 50 games in charge now and team selection and tactics like we have seen in the last two weeks are not acceptable when you earn as much as he does.
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