Changed tactic to sarcasm now?
Equally as boring I'm afraid.
You must be delighted with the past few games. Congratulations mate.
It's all facts I'm afraid
Forget clowns on here calling you a wum for having an opinion.
Yes we have a young squad but it's a young squad the on the whole are average at best.
BR has done a ok job but whilst I dint know whether he should be sacked or not his job should definitely be at risk.
All the top teams have players that can play football Barca, Bayern, Real and a few others
The prem is full of strong physically fit men who have the odd player.
Allen , Henderson are prime examples - Modric played against us this year for Real the difference was frightening
So what's your answer to achieve the glory you so clearly crave TVJ?
Genuine question.
Whilst I don't put my views across in the same way as my brother, I do agree on his reservations with Jordam Henderson.
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
I think Liverpool need to upgrade everyone in midfield bar Coutinho. Everyone else isn't good enough to be a regular starter.
If you're happy with commitment then the Kuyts and the Hendersons of the world will be perfect for you.
But give me a Garcia, Alonso, Suarez or Coutinho over them.
Yes, we need tough players as well as flair but I don't see Jordan or Joe winning many midfield battles.
I'm not moaning or having a knee jerk reaction - I just don't want the fans settling for average players
I have said it before Robbing we need a billionaire owner.
Is it what I want - no
Is it what we need - yes
Chelsea and City have bought success over night that's what we need as every year we fall further behind.
For at least 5-10 years, Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Sunderland, City have had a bigger capacity than us, we are playing catch up it seems all the time
Don't get me wrong I think these owners can see what is needed and have been good with cash for players and stadium but it might not be enough
TVJ FFP will not allow us to benefit from billionaire owners. That door has been shut now.
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
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Absolute bollox. No-one, ever, has said this. Jordan Henderson is the least of our problems.
So TVJ your answer is a billionaire owner. Much as I appreciate the effort you've put into that response we don't have one in the guise of City or Chelsea so now.... what's your answer?
Again a genuine question.
I have seen bits on the FFP and apparently there is loads of loopholes and ways round things
It's like being angry with gravity or something.
Whilst I don't put my views across in the same way as my brother, I do agree on his reservations with Jordam Henderson.
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
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Totally agree with this. Henderson is a decent player, he will work hard, press, decent passer however when we need players to stand up most he goes into hiding.
He choked against United, choked in semi which were 2 huge games and yesterday against was lost. I saw Can who was our RB effect the game more centrally than Hendo did.
We need to find one or find more investment
Unless we are planning on bringing in 5/6 youth players of the highest quality every 18 months or so were facked
Yes you've said the investment bit.
What constitutes 'facked'?
comment by SM67 (U19913)
posted 6 minutes ago
TVJ FFP will not allow us to benefit from billionaire owners. That door has been shut now.
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That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding. Huge global fan base, stadium expansion. FFP is there to benefit us and its to stop another City/Chelsea.
FFP is not an excuse.
For me facked means also running
5th, 6th etc
Then you don't know you're born. Hate to say it but if you're a pot chaser then you've picked the wrong club. Personally I gave up on winning the league in about 96.
That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding.
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Well it's not a myth that it stops personal investment is it. Fact is yes, we're in the top ten richest, but that still means there are nine clubs ahead of us. To which our main targets are going to. A lot.
Absolute bollox. No-one, ever, has said this. Jordan Henderson is the least of our problems.
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I see it all the time. They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
And whilst there are more pressing issues in the team, the others aren't being hyped.
I'd even look at older players. Gary McCallister turned Liverpool FC In 2001 from a crop of good players to a well balanced team. Jordan, Joe and I hate to say it but Lucas too aren't performing to the standards I expect for Liverpool midfielders.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - putting the bureaucracy into f... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding.
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Well it's not a myth that it stops personal investment is it. Fact is yes, we're in the top ten richest, but that still means there are nine clubs ahead of us. To which our main targets are going to. A lot.
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That's typical defeatist attitude.
We were in the top 10 despite not even being in the CL for 5 years.
Getting into the Top 4 is difficult maybe (Real, Barca, United and Madrid). Moving from 9 to 5 is achievable. Billionaires are not allowed to pump there own money anymore.
They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
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That's not what you said.
That's typical defeatist attitude.
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It's not an attitude but rather a statement of fact. Or do Costa, Willian, Sanchez not play for Chelsea and Arsenal? Does Moratta not play for Juve?
There are 9 clubs that can out finance us by your own admission. Don't know where you've got defeatist attitude from.
posted 10 minutes ago
They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
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That's not what you said.
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It's exactly what I said. I said people have convinced themselves that he's the answer.
So those two are mutually exclusive statements - semantics aside
TVJ the problem most people have with you is you only coem on here to moan when things go bad but also the only solution you have is a billionaire owner, anyone can come up with that it's hardly some sort of genius statment to make.
There have been so many mitigating factors that have led to us having a poor season, literally had 50 plus goals removed from the team! Over 50 fecking goals! That is goign to make a huge difference and it's copst us so much this season.
Funnily enough our keeper is now the highest clean sheet holder in the league! And we look like a far better side defensivley in the past few months,
I get it you're frustratred (although to be honest you come across as a glory fan where it's success or nothing) but if you can't look at the bigger picture I think you'll remain frustrated for several more years.
And the funny thing is, despite how poor we have been we are only 3 positive result swings from actually being right in amoung the top 4 clubs, we have had a poor season yet we are still technically in touch with the top 4 (I don't think we will get top 4) but we are not miles away, we just need to be a bit patient, make the rigt signings this summer and we can be back again challenging the top 4 clubs.
And lok at who Brendan is competign with, 4 managers with bigger squads, budgets and vast amounts of experience, yet we are not too far off then despite having a mare of a season, do you not think that is a bit of a positive? If we were 10th and did crap in both cups I'd be asking more serious questions, but we have had lots of things go wrong, Brendan has made mistakes, but overall we are doing ok, he needs a good year next season but take all the above into consideration, what he did last season was a miracle when you look at the teams we finished ahead.
Brendan has been a manager for 6 years, Wenger has been maanger of Arsenal for nearly 4 times Brendans entire managerial career, 6 fecking years! Cut the man some slack
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posted on 26/4/15
Changed tactic to sarcasm now?
Equally as boring I'm afraid.
posted on 26/4/15
Good article
posted on 26/4/15
You must be delighted with the past few games. Congratulations mate.
posted on 26/4/15
It's all facts I'm afraid
Forget clowns on here calling you a wum for having an opinion.
Yes we have a young squad but it's a young squad the on the whole are average at best.
BR has done a ok job but whilst I dint know whether he should be sacked or not his job should definitely be at risk.
All the top teams have players that can play football Barca, Bayern, Real and a few others
The prem is full of strong physically fit men who have the odd player.
Allen , Henderson are prime examples - Modric played against us this year for Real the difference was frightening
posted on 26/4/15
So what's your answer to achieve the glory you so clearly crave TVJ?
Genuine question.
posted on 26/4/15
Whilst I don't put my views across in the same way as my brother, I do agree on his reservations with Jordam Henderson.
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
I think Liverpool need to upgrade everyone in midfield bar Coutinho. Everyone else isn't good enough to be a regular starter.
If you're happy with commitment then the Kuyts and the Hendersons of the world will be perfect for you.
But give me a Garcia, Alonso, Suarez or Coutinho over them.
Yes, we need tough players as well as flair but I don't see Jordan or Joe winning many midfield battles.
I'm not moaning or having a knee jerk reaction - I just don't want the fans settling for average players
posted on 26/4/15
I have said it before Robbing we need a billionaire owner.
Is it what I want - no
Is it what we need - yes
Chelsea and City have bought success over night that's what we need as every year we fall further behind.
For at least 5-10 years, Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Sunderland, City have had a bigger capacity than us, we are playing catch up it seems all the time
Don't get me wrong I think these owners can see what is needed and have been good with cash for players and stadium but it might not be enough
posted on 26/4/15
TVJ FFP will not allow us to benefit from billionaire owners. That door has been shut now.
posted on 26/4/15
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
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Absolute bollox. No-one, ever, has said this. Jordan Henderson is the least of our problems.
So TVJ your answer is a billionaire owner. Much as I appreciate the effort you've put into that response we don't have one in the guise of City or Chelsea so now.... what's your answer?
Again a genuine question.
posted on 26/4/15
I have seen bits on the FFP and apparently there is loads of loopholes and ways round things
posted on 26/4/15
It's like being angry with gravity or something.
posted on 26/4/15
Whilst I don't put my views across in the same way as my brother, I do agree on his reservations with Jordam Henderson.
It's as if people have convinced themselves that he's the answer to Gerrards leaving.
==========================
Totally agree with this. Henderson is a decent player, he will work hard, press, decent passer however when we need players to stand up most he goes into hiding.
He choked against United, choked in semi which were 2 huge games and yesterday against was lost. I saw Can who was our RB effect the game more centrally than Hendo did.
posted on 26/4/15
We need to find one or find more investment
Unless we are planning on bringing in 5/6 youth players of the highest quality every 18 months or so were facked
posted on 26/4/15
Yes you've said the investment bit.
What constitutes 'facked'?
posted on 26/4/15
comment by SM67 (U19913)
posted 6 minutes ago
TVJ FFP will not allow us to benefit from billionaire owners. That door has been shut now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding. Huge global fan base, stadium expansion. FFP is there to benefit us and its to stop another City/Chelsea.
FFP is not an excuse.
posted on 26/4/15
For me facked means also running
5th, 6th etc
posted on 26/4/15
Then you don't know you're born. Hate to say it but if you're a pot chaser then you've picked the wrong club. Personally I gave up on winning the league in about 96.
posted on 26/4/15
That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding.
--------------
Well it's not a myth that it stops personal investment is it. Fact is yes, we're in the top ten richest, but that still means there are nine clubs ahead of us. To which our main targets are going to. A lot.
posted on 26/4/15
Absolute bollox. No-one, ever, has said this. Jordan Henderson is the least of our problems.
-----
I see it all the time. They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
And whilst there are more pressing issues in the team, the others aren't being hyped.
I'd even look at older players. Gary McCallister turned Liverpool FC In 2001 from a crop of good players to a well balanced team. Jordan, Joe and I hate to say it but Lucas too aren't performing to the standards I expect for Liverpool midfielders.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by Robbing_Hoody - putting the bureaucracy into f... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
That's a myth. We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Our revenue is forever expanding.
--------------
Well it's not a myth that it stops personal investment is it. Fact is yes, we're in the top ten richest, but that still means there are nine clubs ahead of us. To which our main targets are going to. A lot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's typical defeatist attitude.
We were in the top 10 despite not even being in the CL for 5 years.
Getting into the Top 4 is difficult maybe (Real, Barca, United and Madrid). Moving from 9 to 5 is achievable. Billionaires are not allowed to pump there own money anymore.
posted on 26/4/15
They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
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That's not what you said.
posted on 26/4/15
Whrere to begin!
posted on 26/4/15
That's typical defeatist attitude.
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It's not an attitude but rather a statement of fact. Or do Costa, Willian, Sanchez not play for Chelsea and Arsenal? Does Moratta not play for Juve?
There are 9 clubs that can out finance us by your own admission. Don't know where you've got defeatist attitude from.
posted on 26/4/15
posted 10 minutes ago
They say he can't fill Gerrards shoes but he is the long term successor.
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That's not what you said.
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It's exactly what I said. I said people have convinced themselves that he's the answer.
So those two are mutually exclusive statements - semantics aside
posted on 26/4/15
TVJ the problem most people have with you is you only coem on here to moan when things go bad but also the only solution you have is a billionaire owner, anyone can come up with that it's hardly some sort of genius statment to make.
There have been so many mitigating factors that have led to us having a poor season, literally had 50 plus goals removed from the team! Over 50 fecking goals! That is goign to make a huge difference and it's copst us so much this season.
Funnily enough our keeper is now the highest clean sheet holder in the league! And we look like a far better side defensivley in the past few months,
I get it you're frustratred (although to be honest you come across as a glory fan where it's success or nothing) but if you can't look at the bigger picture I think you'll remain frustrated for several more years.
And the funny thing is, despite how poor we have been we are only 3 positive result swings from actually being right in amoung the top 4 clubs, we have had a poor season yet we are still technically in touch with the top 4 (I don't think we will get top 4) but we are not miles away, we just need to be a bit patient, make the rigt signings this summer and we can be back again challenging the top 4 clubs.
And lok at who Brendan is competign with, 4 managers with bigger squads, budgets and vast amounts of experience, yet we are not too far off then despite having a mare of a season, do you not think that is a bit of a positive? If we were 10th and did crap in both cups I'd be asking more serious questions, but we have had lots of things go wrong, Brendan has made mistakes, but overall we are doing ok, he needs a good year next season but take all the above into consideration, what he did last season was a miracle when you look at the teams we finished ahead.
Brendan has been a manager for 6 years, Wenger has been maanger of Arsenal for nearly 4 times Brendans entire managerial career, 6 fecking years! Cut the man some slack
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