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Chronic
Chelsea put out pretty well full strength in most competitions, may be something to do with why they are successful. Even Wenger, who used to be the kdog of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions, has learnt that by actually putting out full strength in cup competitions is starting to reap its rewards. It is not fecking rocket science.
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 1 minute ago
Chronic
Chelsea put out pretty well full strength in most competitions, may be something to do with why they are successful. Even Wenger, who used to be the kdog of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions, has learnt that by actually putting out full strength in cup competitions is starting to reap its rewards. It is not fecking rocket science.
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arsenal were not competitive in all four comps.
nor were chelsea. they lost in the fa cup to bradford, after mourinho made loads of changes.
so what on earth are you on about sandy?
in modern day football you cannot expert to play a full team in 4 competitions and remain competitive in all 4. it doesn't happen. not even ferguson's man u could manage it.
when will you realise its not 1965 sandy?
furthermore look how much money arsenal and chelsea spend on players and wages compared to us - they both have much better squads !
rotation is the way to go… but in order to rotate effectively, you need strength in depth.. which we don't have.. and thats what we need to address in summer
i personally dont think the physical side of playing 2 games a week is the problem, players like playing and they are fit guys. I think its more the preparation thats the problem. For example if we play sunday then thursday, the week is spent preparing for thursday nights game, set peices team shape etc. Because of this we then only have sat really o prepare for the weekends game
comment by eriksensensen (U17512)
posted 1 minute ago
i personally dont think the physical side of playing 2 games a week is the problem, players like playing and they are fit guys. I think its more the preparation thats the problem. For example if we play sunday then thursday, the week is spent preparing for thursday nights game, set peices team shape etc. Because of this we then only have sat really o prepare for the weekends game
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exactly what i was saying. but sandy cannot understand this basic, basic concept.
thats half the reason we struggle on sunday games after thursdays, especially at home. the opposition have often had the whole week to work out how to stop us playing (the blueprint of how to play at WHL is clear for all to say), we haven't had the prep time to counter it, it becomes a tough game, fans get on teams back, don't perform, lose the game.
it has happened far too often for it to be coincidence.
also the trips to eastern europe don't help. getting back at stupid o clock in morning. the CL has much more games in western europe with less travel and better facilities.
playing CL and playing EL is a totally different ball game for so many reasons.
look at how bad everton were this season, until they went out of europe. now look at them. then look at them last season when they didnt have europa.
Chelsea are on course to win two of the three domestic trophies, Arsenal are on course for back to back FA Cups. They clearly take all competitions more seriously than Spurs do.
Not quite sure why you keep bringing up the 1960s. Football today is a doddle compared to then, plastIc ball, perfect pitches, luxury transport, medical facilities, money coming out of their ears, and they still cannot play more than one game a week. FFS Chronic you really do wrap the modern players up in cotton wool.
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 10 seconds ago
Chelsea are on course to win two of the three domestic trophies, Arsenal are on course for back to back FA Cups. They clearly take all competitions more seriously than Spurs do.
Not quite sure why you keep bringing up the 1960s. Football today is a doddle compared to then, plastIc ball, perfect pitches, luxury transport, medical facilities, money coming out of their ears, and they still cannot play more than one game a week. FFS Chronic you really do wrap the modern players up in cotton wool.
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no i don't. haven't you seen the way i slate our players sometimes?
sandy. chelsea have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions on their squad, and so have arsenal…
they are both in a different league to us, they have higher calibre of player because they offer consistent CL football and huge wages, and we offer neither.
the better players = the better team = more trophies.
nothing to do with playing one or two games a week.
and now you are actually talking about arsenal taking all competitions more seriously than spurs - they recently went 8 years without winning anything sandy
and you are still on about the cannot play more than one game a week argument read back my previous 10 responses to find the counter argument which you have disregarded. its like i am arguing with chicken. are you thick just like chicken sandy? carrying on the same point over and over despite me explaining why you have the wrong end of the stick
Chronic
You are now saying Spurs are not a CL side, and I agree with you there. But I don't get why you were saying don't play the first team in the Europa, save them for the prem. Why, if you don't think they were going to get top four. What would be the point of resting players if you think the team is only capable of finishing 6th or thereabouts?
Chronic
Safe to say we have differing opinions on the way forward. Thus far your approach of resting players ain't looking like a blinding success.
thats because you have once more ignored the fundamental key to my argument. resting players hasn't worked because we don't have a strong enough squad. not enough depth and quality. i have said that several times. and thats what we need to address in summer. again, i have said that several times.
i am tired of repeating myself its like i am trying to teach a toddler to count and they keep making the same mistakes over and over.
is that argument to advanced for you?
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 14 minutes ago
Chronic
You are now saying Spurs are not a CL side, and I agree with you there. But I don't get why you were saying don't play the first team in the Europa, save them for the prem. Why, if you don't think they were going to get top four. What would be the point of resting players if you think the team is only capable of finishing 6th or thereabouts?
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i give up.
read the article and comments back for your answer..
Chronic, funny how " we need to address" these issues this summer but I have been saying this for years and when ever I speak out against your bald genius of a boyfriend Daniel levy you are always giving me s hit .
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chronic, funny how " we need to address" these issues this summer but I have been saying this for years and when ever I speak out against your bald genius of a boyfriend Daniel levy you are always giving me s hit .
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another lazy argument.
you and sandy are perfect for each other.
i criticise levy when he deserves it - like haggling over small fees or leaving things too late. you just criticise levy on a ridiculous level - like for not paying stupid money and wages for players -
you were sucking him off the summer he bought those 7 players to replace bale though
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 17 minutes ago
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
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The problem is poch still does not know his best team. So playing 2 games a week makes it even more of a juggling act
Weren't sucking him off. Was happy like every other Spurs fan then we spent big money for once. Never thought 90% of our signings would be complete dogsh it. I have been on Levys case for years in regards to not backing the manager
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
comment by eriksensensen (U17512)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
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hope you have your helmet
Chronic
Absolute bollox to say Spurs don`t have any depth. FFS they have 25 players most of them internationals, if they cannot compete on more than one front, then they may as well give up playing football. Plenty of continental clubs compete in the Europa league on a lot less finance than Spurs have. It is just an excuse.
You keep waffling on about strengthening the squad, but don`t actually come up with any players that can be brought for the budget that Spurs have.
The present squad just needs managing better, it aint in reality any worse than say Seville or Fiorentina and they manage to compete quite well in more than one competition.
eriksensensen
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
That is not fair, Don is pretty knowledgeable and is also very passionate, just because his opinion differs from yours, no need to start throwing the insults about.
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 2 minutes ago
Chronic
Absolute bollox to say Spurs don`t have any depth. FFS they have 25 players most of them internationals, if they cannot compete on more than one front, then they may as well give up playing football. Plenty of continental clubs compete in the Europa league on a lot less finance than Spurs have. It is just an excuse.
You keep waffling on about strengthening the squad, but don`t actually come up with any players that can be brought for the budget that Spurs have.
The present squad just needs managing better, it aint in reality any worse than say Seville or Fiorentina and they manage to compete quite well in more than one competition.
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why should i be naming players that we should buy like i am some kind of spurs scout?
and spurs are on about fiorentina/sevilla level second tier european outfit.
no shame in that, we are still a good side, and a very good side on our day, but there is lots of improving to do .
I dunno why so many Spurs fans think we are too good for the Europa. We have built our foundation on some of our historic successes in the competition.
When you think of our greatest achievements it goes:
1. First English team to win a European Competition
2. First double winners
3. English flight top goalscorer
Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
FFS so 25 players, mostly internationals is not enough to compete in more than one competition. Do me a fecking favour.
Edinspur
I dunno why so many Spurs fans think we are too good for the Europa.
There are some that do not think we are good enough to compete in the Europa League, but want CL football. No wonder other fans laugh at us sometimes.
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posted on 26/4/15
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posted on 26/4/15
Chronic
Chelsea put out pretty well full strength in most competitions, may be something to do with why they are successful. Even Wenger, who used to be the kdog of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions, has learnt that by actually putting out full strength in cup competitions is starting to reap its rewards. It is not fecking rocket science.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 1 minute ago
Chronic
Chelsea put out pretty well full strength in most competitions, may be something to do with why they are successful. Even Wenger, who used to be the kdog of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions, has learnt that by actually putting out full strength in cup competitions is starting to reap its rewards. It is not fecking rocket science.
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arsenal were not competitive in all four comps.
nor were chelsea. they lost in the fa cup to bradford, after mourinho made loads of changes.
so what on earth are you on about sandy?
in modern day football you cannot expert to play a full team in 4 competitions and remain competitive in all 4. it doesn't happen. not even ferguson's man u could manage it.
when will you realise its not 1965 sandy?
posted on 26/4/15
furthermore look how much money arsenal and chelsea spend on players and wages compared to us - they both have much better squads !
rotation is the way to go… but in order to rotate effectively, you need strength in depth.. which we don't have.. and thats what we need to address in summer
posted on 26/4/15
i personally dont think the physical side of playing 2 games a week is the problem, players like playing and they are fit guys. I think its more the preparation thats the problem. For example if we play sunday then thursday, the week is spent preparing for thursday nights game, set peices team shape etc. Because of this we then only have sat really o prepare for the weekends game
posted on 26/4/15
comment by eriksensensen (U17512)
posted 1 minute ago
i personally dont think the physical side of playing 2 games a week is the problem, players like playing and they are fit guys. I think its more the preparation thats the problem. For example if we play sunday then thursday, the week is spent preparing for thursday nights game, set peices team shape etc. Because of this we then only have sat really o prepare for the weekends game
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exactly what i was saying. but sandy cannot understand this basic, basic concept.
thats half the reason we struggle on sunday games after thursdays, especially at home. the opposition have often had the whole week to work out how to stop us playing (the blueprint of how to play at WHL is clear for all to say), we haven't had the prep time to counter it, it becomes a tough game, fans get on teams back, don't perform, lose the game.
it has happened far too often for it to be coincidence.
also the trips to eastern europe don't help. getting back at stupid o clock in morning. the CL has much more games in western europe with less travel and better facilities.
playing CL and playing EL is a totally different ball game for so many reasons.
look at how bad everton were this season, until they went out of europe. now look at them. then look at them last season when they didnt have europa.
posted on 26/4/15
Chelsea are on course to win two of the three domestic trophies, Arsenal are on course for back to back FA Cups. They clearly take all competitions more seriously than Spurs do.
Not quite sure why you keep bringing up the 1960s. Football today is a doddle compared to then, plastIc ball, perfect pitches, luxury transport, medical facilities, money coming out of their ears, and they still cannot play more than one game a week. FFS Chronic you really do wrap the modern players up in cotton wool.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 10 seconds ago
Chelsea are on course to win two of the three domestic trophies, Arsenal are on course for back to back FA Cups. They clearly take all competitions more seriously than Spurs do.
Not quite sure why you keep bringing up the 1960s. Football today is a doddle compared to then, plastIc ball, perfect pitches, luxury transport, medical facilities, money coming out of their ears, and they still cannot play more than one game a week. FFS Chronic you really do wrap the modern players up in cotton wool.
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no i don't. haven't you seen the way i slate our players sometimes?
sandy. chelsea have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions on their squad, and so have arsenal…
they are both in a different league to us, they have higher calibre of player because they offer consistent CL football and huge wages, and we offer neither.
the better players = the better team = more trophies.
nothing to do with playing one or two games a week.
and now you are actually talking about arsenal taking all competitions more seriously than spurs - they recently went 8 years without winning anything sandy
and you are still on about the cannot play more than one game a week argument read back my previous 10 responses to find the counter argument which you have disregarded. its like i am arguing with chicken. are you thick just like chicken sandy? carrying on the same point over and over despite me explaining why you have the wrong end of the stick
posted on 26/4/15
Chronic
You are now saying Spurs are not a CL side, and I agree with you there. But I don't get why you were saying don't play the first team in the Europa, save them for the prem. Why, if you don't think they were going to get top four. What would be the point of resting players if you think the team is only capable of finishing 6th or thereabouts?
posted on 26/4/15
Chronic
Safe to say we have differing opinions on the way forward. Thus far your approach of resting players ain't looking like a blinding success.
posted on 26/4/15
thats because you have once more ignored the fundamental key to my argument. resting players hasn't worked because we don't have a strong enough squad. not enough depth and quality. i have said that several times. and thats what we need to address in summer. again, i have said that several times.
i am tired of repeating myself its like i am trying to teach a toddler to count and they keep making the same mistakes over and over.
is that argument to advanced for you?
posted on 26/4/15
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 14 minutes ago
Chronic
You are now saying Spurs are not a CL side, and I agree with you there. But I don't get why you were saying don't play the first team in the Europa, save them for the prem. Why, if you don't think they were going to get top four. What would be the point of resting players if you think the team is only capable of finishing 6th or thereabouts?
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i give up.
read the article and comments back for your answer..
posted on 26/4/15
Chronic, funny how " we need to address" these issues this summer but I have been saying this for years and when ever I speak out against your bald genius of a boyfriend Daniel levy you are always giving me s hit .
posted on 26/4/15
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chronic, funny how " we need to address" these issues this summer but I have been saying this for years and when ever I speak out against your bald genius of a boyfriend Daniel levy you are always giving me s hit .
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another lazy argument.
you and sandy are perfect for each other.
i criticise levy when he deserves it - like haggling over small fees or leaving things too late. you just criticise levy on a ridiculous level - like for not paying stupid money and wages for players -
you were sucking him off the summer he bought those 7 players to replace bale though
posted on 26/4/15
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 17 minutes ago
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
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The problem is poch still does not know his best team. So playing 2 games a week makes it even more of a juggling act
posted on 26/4/15
Weren't sucking him off. Was happy like every other Spurs fan then we spent big money for once. Never thought 90% of our signings would be complete dogsh it. I have been on Levys case for years in regards to not backing the manager
posted on 26/4/15
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
posted on 26/4/15
comment by eriksensensen (U17512)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
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hope you have your helmet
posted on 26/4/15
Chronic
Absolute bollox to say Spurs don`t have any depth. FFS they have 25 players most of them internationals, if they cannot compete on more than one front, then they may as well give up playing football. Plenty of continental clubs compete in the Europa league on a lot less finance than Spurs have. It is just an excuse.
You keep waffling on about strengthening the squad, but don`t actually come up with any players that can be brought for the budget that Spurs have.
The present squad just needs managing better, it aint in reality any worse than say Seville or Fiorentina and they manage to compete quite well in more than one competition.
posted on 26/4/15
eriksensensen
don you are a plank, , i get the impression that you are one of those people who we all know in our real lives that acts like they know about football but everyone around them thinks they are a joke
That is not fair, Don is pretty knowledgeable and is also very passionate, just because his opinion differs from yours, no need to start throwing the insults about.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by sandy brown (U20258)
posted 2 minutes ago
Chronic
Absolute bollox to say Spurs don`t have any depth. FFS they have 25 players most of them internationals, if they cannot compete on more than one front, then they may as well give up playing football. Plenty of continental clubs compete in the Europa league on a lot less finance than Spurs have. It is just an excuse.
You keep waffling on about strengthening the squad, but don`t actually come up with any players that can be brought for the budget that Spurs have.
The present squad just needs managing better, it aint in reality any worse than say Seville or Fiorentina and they manage to compete quite well in more than one competition.
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why should i be naming players that we should buy like i am some kind of spurs scout?
and spurs are on about fiorentina/sevilla level second tier european outfit.
no shame in that, we are still a good side, and a very good side on our day, but there is lots of improving to do .
posted on 26/4/15
I dunno why so many Spurs fans think we are too good for the Europa. We have built our foundation on some of our historic successes in the competition.
When you think of our greatest achievements it goes:
1. First English team to win a European Competition
2. First double winners
3. English flight top goalscorer
posted on 26/4/15
Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN
We don't have the strength in depth to compete fully in the league and European competition. That's the brutal but honest truth.
FFS so 25 players, mostly internationals is not enough to compete in more than one competition. Do me a fecking favour.
posted on 26/4/15
Edinspur
I dunno why so many Spurs fans think we are too good for the Europa.
There are some that do not think we are good enough to compete in the Europa League, but want CL football. No wonder other fans laugh at us sometimes.
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