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We Need To Convert Alexis Into A CF

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posted on 3/5/15

Won't work. Doesn't have the frame or style for it.

posted on 3/5/15

Plan A

Welbeck-Alexis-Ox

Plan B

Alexis-Giroud-Theo

Plan C

Alexis-Welbeck-Ox


Welbeck and Theo are good but not brilliant however, they do fulfil HG quotas.

Ox and Giroud are very good.

Alexis is special.

I think we will get rid of Podolski and Campbell. We should also lose Sanogo and send Chuba on loan.

We don't look good enough to score against Chelsea but everyone else in the league we have more then enough firepower.

All we have to do is get two 0-0's with Jose's bus and then it's a straight shootout in the other 36 games.

posted on 3/5/15

He certainly does he's similar in style to Aguero/Suarez who have both successfully led the line.

My worry is whether he has the mentality/discipline for it.

Can he limit the amount of times he wants to come short, can he make the runs, stretch the opposing defence left, right and centre?

All within his powers just about if he's ready to do so or not, he needs to acknowledge he's not a playmaker and should let Ozil and Santi dominate the ball more.

posted on 3/5/15

comment by I Willbeck Danny boy to get 16 goals in 14-15 #VCC (U9687)
posted 2 minutes ago
Plan A

Welbeck-Alexis-Ox

Plan B

Alexis-Giroud-Theo

Plan C

Alexis-Welbeck-Ox


Welbeck and Theo are good but not brilliant however, they do fulfil HG quotas.

Ox and Giroud are very good.

Alexis is special.

I think we will get rid of Podolski and Campbell. We should also lose Sanogo and send Chuba on loan.

We don't look good enough to score against Chelsea but everyone else in the league we have more then enough firepower.

All we have to do is get two 0-0's with Jose's bus and then it's a straight shootout in the other 36 games.

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If Alexis worked upfront, think your plan C will be best. As Welbz and Alexis can be interchangeable and have the mobility to switch over when need.

Wonder how a diamond would work out for us like L'pool last season Studge & Suarez went wide when defending but were a central partnership. Welbz & Alexis could do so with Ozil behind them and Jack & Rambo the 2 engines whilst Coquelin sits.

We actually have players that can allow us to play in a variety of ways, Arsene just needs to stop his rigidity and explore them imo

posted on 3/5/15

Wenger has already tried it. Can't see it working it.

posted on 3/5/15

And Suarez is 6 foot for your information.

posted on 3/5/15

All within his powers just about if he's ready to do so or not, he needs to acknowledge he's not a playmaker and should let Ozil and Santi dominate the ball more.
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So correct. He is dropping soo deep since Giroud has been back and it means he's just getting nowhere near the box (ie. where he is effective).

He needs to think about goals and pressurising the oppositions FB/CBs. That is his only job.

posted on 3/5/15

comment by DubbedTheNewWenger90 (U19529)
posted 6 minutes ago
And Suarez is 6 foot for your information.
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5'11 if you want to be all technical whilst Aguero is 5'8 so what's your point?

Many small players have successfully led frontline's ones with the ability to produce the extraordinary can often make them the best, Alexis has it in his locker but needs discipline

posted on 3/5/15

Can't see how Sanchez @ 5'7" can play as the CF.

We need a striker for sure, and we'll have to buy, I know strikers are thin on the ground.

We must search. remember if Sanchez plays as CF with two smaller wide players outside him, we are going to be a very short side, and when we start conceding from corners you'll wonder why.

It would have only worked had we had a more physical midfield. Part of our game is a hoof to Giroud and play off of him.

posted on 3/5/15

sanchez is actually a good finisher but we have tried him there a few times and it hasn't worked.

He just comes back into midfield when playing up top. Also just doesn't have the natural link up play and movement to play there

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 3/5/15

Alexis has shown that he can be a 25+ goal a season player, 20+ from the flanks is a remarkable return in his debut season

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A fair few of those goals came when he was playing in the no. 10 position.

posted on 3/5/15


Can't see how Sanchez @ 5'7" can play as the CF.
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Owen, Defoe and Messi have successfully led frontlines over the years don't see why height is an issue, plus if played Welbeck with Ox too there's a decent amount of height an physicality there.

The smaller forwards are effective when they are stretching the defence from side to side and running off the shoulder, Alexis can do this and height wouldn't be an issue apart from goal kicks which Welbz can come in field for anyway.

Just think if we had more mobility against Chelsea for instance we wouldn't play into their hands as we did. United away we used that front 3 and was one of our best counter-attacking performances since the Invincible days.

posted on 3/5/15

Not sure we need to replace Giroud at all as first choice, I disagree with Henry's remarks about him last week. Put it this way, if Giroud had been Chelsea's first choice striker this season instead of Costa, I'm fairly sure they would still have been Champions.

posted on 3/5/15

We won't find that aguero type of striker at arsenal.

posted on 3/5/15

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 7 minutes ago
sanchez is actually a good finisher but we have tried him there a few times and it hasn't worked.

He just comes back into midfield when playing up top. Also just doesn't have the natural link up play and movement to play there
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The whole team were awful in that period but agree he was underwhelming there that's why I think Arsene should specifically work with him in this role. Suarez & Aguero of similar ilk have both been able to get on the ball whilst successfully leading the line.

Alexis has to improve his ball retention skills regardless so why not centrally where he can fill this gaping problem that denies us from being champions

posted on 3/5/15

Alexis should play in behind Giroud. That is where he is best.

14 goals in 17 starts is hardly evidence Giroud cannot shoot us to glory. Saying he has proved he can't is BS really. Giroud and Costa has very similar goal/minute ratio's (both better than Harry Kane).
If anything Giroud has shown this season that he is capable of scoring enough to put Arsenal in with a shout. But it isn't all about one man.

posted on 3/5/15

Should have taken Vela for 4m while we had the chance. It was low risk. He is a mature and confident player then the one that left us. If he had flopped we could still have made a profit

posted on 3/5/15

comment by Sömeday_693 - Källström will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not sure we need to replace Giroud at all as first choice, I disagree with Henry's remarks about him last week. Put it this way, if Giroud had been Chelsea's first choice striker this season instead of Costa, I'm fairly sure they would still have been Champions.
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Jose would never have a forward like Giroud. He has aggressive fighters that are ready to step up to the plate with top fighter mentalities.

Henry was spot on imo, 3 years and we're still yet to come close, many problems throughout the team have occurred during that time but the one consistent complaint has been the lack of quality up front, even when we were good in defence, fluent in midfield up front we never had that edge.

posted on 3/5/15

Wenger loves Giroud.

Will never happen with sanchez up front

posted on 3/5/15

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Alexis should play in behind Giroud. That is where he is best.

14 goals in 17 starts is hardly evidence Giroud cannot shoot us to glory. Saying he has proved he can't is BS really. Giroud and Costa has very similar goal/minute ratio's (both better than Harry Kane).
If anything Giroud has shown this season that he is capable of scoring enough to put Arsenal in with a shout. But it isn't all about one man.
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posted on 3/5/15

But it isn't all about one man.

Tell him, DJ. That's why City not always crowned Champions every year with the world class striker they have in their team.

posted on 3/5/15

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
Alexis should play in behind Giroud. That is where he is best.

14 goals in 17 starts is hardly evidence Giroud cannot shoot us to glory. Saying he has proved he can't is BS really. Giroud and Costa has very similar goal/minute ratio's (both better than Harry Kane).
If anything Giroud has shown this season that he is capable of scoring enough to put Arsenal in with a shout. But it isn't all about one man.
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Giroud's always been good when fresh, that's why a rotation role is perfect for him but in terms of our biggest crack at the 2 biggest trophies Chelsea last week and Monaco, he was woeful.

Doesn't do it when it counts and every pundit sees this, the whole team were good enough to win the league last season but Giroud couldn't step up he will never be world class and that's a fact. If we brought Suarez we'd have wrapped the league last year

Costa's goals came in 6 pointers as well as a final so doesn't matter in comparing their stats all about the occasion that separates the best from the good.

Giroud is a good CF nothing more but would be one of the best impact strikers around if we rightly relegated him to that role. We need a killer up top

posted on 3/5/15

The whole team were awful against Monaco I don't need telling but if we had an Aguero we'd be leaving that game saying 'how awful we were but thankfully we got our 3 goals thanks to Aguero' (see City vs Bayern).

That's the difference a good striker means you don't always have to lose when you play bad. Giroud is only as good as his team-mates are on the day and you can't win titles on that kind of dependance

posted on 3/5/15

I agree we need a better striker but it's unfair to say he doesn't do it when it counts. He works within his limitations and does a very good job.

As for not doing it when it counts, I could name a number of players in our teams who cost a lot more than Giroud who don't turn up for the big games

posted on 3/5/15

Alexis CF doesn't work. Everytime it's been tried with us it fails.

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