There is justified disappointment about how it's worked out, but I think he's getting bashed/abused/scapegoated far beyond what is justified. He was putting in very solid (I think a couple of MotM) performances a couple of months ago but took all the abuse when results went against us.
Which is common for players like that. It's Carrick syndrome.
He has 2 good games all season and took hardly any abuse
If I was a Liverpool I'd be worried about how much Rodgers rates Average Allen.
If you were a Liverpool fan we'd glue your lower lip to your forehead and throw you in the Mersey
You could swim alone
posted 14 minutes ago
He's ok as a squad player but nothing more
Emre Can is already ahead of him in the midfield stakes
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How many games has Can had in midfield so far?
Can hasn't exactly shined in midfield yet
Not many but i can already see he will be better in midfield than Joe Allen
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
comment by Red_Warrior_48-0_TMT (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
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I like allen, emres clearly more talented though
comment by Sakhos Swag (U20497)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior_48-0_TMT (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
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I like allen, emres clearly more talented though
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Allen is a squad player and i would keep him for that reason alone
Can could become a very good box to box midfielder
Fearless!
Canlen would be a great player.
Liverpool need to get into stem cell research.
Create a couple of hybrids
Lovtelli
Plays in midfield as he's shîte anywhere else.
We have already had the spawn of Sergio Biscuits and Emre Can.
BISCAN.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Can hasn't exactly shined in midfield yet
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How many games has he played in midfield?
Not many I'll tell you that and untill he's given a good run in the team in his favoured position we won't know but he's been very good even though he's been shunted round.
Remember Hendersons first 12 months when he was shoved out right.
I'm a big Can fan
I agree KLS
he's only played there a few times and it's way too early to tell
So no one can say Can should start ahead of Allen
And no one can say he shouldn't
It's unknown
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 40 minutes ago
I'm a big Can fan
I agree KLS
he's only played there a few times and it's way too early to tell
So no one can say Can should start ahead of Allen
And no one can say he shouldn't
It's unknown
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There's nothing unknown about a player who after 3 years is still not good enough.
I think Allen really needed to kick on this season, I've defended him as I've seen the potential and some excellent games from him, however he has way too many average ones still and some games just pass him by. For me a central midfielder should always be in the thick of the action, Allen seems to disappear a lot.
Furthermore he's excellent at moving the ball in tight spaces when he's feeling confident, when he's not, he gets caught in possession, out muscled and beaten for pace.
I like him as a player, however he hasn't shown consistently how good he is. It is perhaps time to sell or to tell him he has a final season, there's only so much time you can say he has potential, the time has come to show it or even passed.
I like Can but lets be honest Can has been reckless at times with his tackling and he has to learn about positional awareness. Back to Allen when he has a run of games he plays well, feels confident and plays his game well. But has to be stronger with protecting the ball and a bit more creative. Hes a good squad player so hopefully we keep him.
I think we need to go out and buy a top class holding player in the summer so Hendo and Can can play ahead of them with freedom to get in the box.
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posted on 13/5/15
There is justified disappointment about how it's worked out, but I think he's getting bashed/abused/scapegoated far beyond what is justified. He was putting in very solid (I think a couple of MotM) performances a couple of months ago but took all the abuse when results went against us.
Which is common for players like that. It's Carrick syndrome.
posted on 13/5/15
He has 2 good games all season and took hardly any abuse
posted on 13/5/15
If I was a Liverpool I'd be worried about how much Rodgers rates Average Allen.
posted on 13/5/15
If you were a Liverpool fan we'd glue your lower lip to your forehead and throw you in the Mersey
You could swim alone
posted on 13/5/15
posted 14 minutes ago
He's ok as a squad player but nothing more
Emre Can is already ahead of him in the midfield stakes
____________
How many games has Can had in midfield so far?
posted on 13/5/15
Can hasn't exactly shined in midfield yet
posted on 13/5/15
Not many but i can already see he will be better in midfield than Joe Allen
posted on 13/5/15
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
posted on 13/5/15
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
posted on 13/5/15
comment by Red_Warrior_48-0_TMT (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
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I like allen, emres clearly more talented though
posted on 13/5/15
comment by Sakhos Swag (U20497)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior_48-0_TMT (U18607)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
TKT
He's foreign though so he's better.
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No
He will just be better
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I like allen, emres clearly more talented though
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Allen is a squad player and i would keep him for that reason alone
Can could become a very good box to box midfielder
Fearless!
posted on 13/5/15
Canlen would be a great player.
Liverpool need to get into stem cell research.
posted on 13/5/15
Create a couple of hybrids
posted on 13/5/15
Lovtelli
Plays in midfield as he's shîte anywhere else.
posted on 13/5/15
We have already had the spawn of Sergio Biscuits and Emre Can.
BISCAN.
posted on 13/5/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Can hasn't exactly shined in midfield yet
---------------
How many games has he played in midfield?
Not many I'll tell you that and untill he's given a good run in the team in his favoured position we won't know but he's been very good even though he's been shunted round.
Remember Hendersons first 12 months when he was shoved out right.
posted on 13/5/15
I'm a big Can fan
I agree KLS
he's only played there a few times and it's way too early to tell
So no one can say Can should start ahead of Allen
And no one can say he shouldn't
It's unknown
posted on 13/5/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 40 minutes ago
I'm a big Can fan
I agree KLS
he's only played there a few times and it's way too early to tell
So no one can say Can should start ahead of Allen
And no one can say he shouldn't
It's unknown
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's nothing unknown about a player who after 3 years is still not good enough.
posted on 14/5/15
I think Allen really needed to kick on this season, I've defended him as I've seen the potential and some excellent games from him, however he has way too many average ones still and some games just pass him by. For me a central midfielder should always be in the thick of the action, Allen seems to disappear a lot.
Furthermore he's excellent at moving the ball in tight spaces when he's feeling confident, when he's not, he gets caught in possession, out muscled and beaten for pace.
I like him as a player, however he hasn't shown consistently how good he is. It is perhaps time to sell or to tell him he has a final season, there's only so much time you can say he has potential, the time has come to show it or even passed.
posted on 14/5/15
I like Can but lets be honest Can has been reckless at times with his tackling and he has to learn about positional awareness. Back to Allen when he has a run of games he plays well, feels confident and plays his game well. But has to be stronger with protecting the ball and a bit more creative. Hes a good squad player so hopefully we keep him.
posted on 14/5/15
I think we need to go out and buy a top class holding player in the summer so Hendo and Can can play ahead of them with freedom to get in the box.
posted on 15/5/15
No
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