Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
£100M because he's the best CB in the world.
Its because they havnt had a decent Cb for over a decade brain...their overrating of koscileny is a joy to behold though
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Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
There really isn't a defender who comes to close to his level in PL in all fairness. £21 mill is a joke and insulting bid.
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comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
Only Arsenal would finally buy a decent keeper, then sell their best defender.
Bit difficult to get Varane when rafa wants to pair varane/kos.
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
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I will dumb it down for you. If an untested player like Stones is worth £30m, then a player like Kos is easily worth £50m.
You must remember any price for Stones is doubled because of the Englands next world class player factor.
Koscielny Such a big eared, injury prone, calamity.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HK: Theo is my Hero (U20000)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
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I will dumb it down for you. If an untested player like Stones is worth £30m, then a player like Kos is easily worth £50m.
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Ok, then I shall simplify things for you. Transfer values cannot be calculated using your completely unsupported and incomplete criteria, using arbitrary valuations for selected players which you believe support your argument. Your view disregards so many relevant factors, that you remove all possibility for credibility in what you say. And finally, nobody will ever, in the entire duration of the entire world's existence, pay £50million for Koscielny.
In my opinion on his day Kos is the best centre back in the Prem. Better than Kompany , Terry etc. He is quick, and anticipates and recovers well . His tackling and heading are both excellent. I would be very angry if having got a decent keeper we screw up our defence by relying on Gabriel and Per.
Time to show some real ambition and NOT sell our best players . We were told that once the stadium was paid for we wouldn't need to sell any more.
So let's hang on to our jewels and get rid of the deadwood.
Kos is a good defender nothing more if put him in the top 5 CB in the premier league, but he is not worth anywhere near 50m, but can understand if Arsenal ask for silly money, PSG brought Luiz for 50m and he is rubbish
If Real offered £30Mil if would be interesting. I wouldnt sell for £21Mil though.
Koscielny is definitely better than rival fans think. Most made up their mind about Kos being crap after his mistake during the carling cup final. Most other fans will never watch a game and notice a defender when he's having a good game. They'll just quietly go about there business. As aposed to an inform striker who will score a load, and easily get noticed. Most of the time a CB will only come into attention when they make a mistake. Which is why idiotic rival fans think he is nothing but error prone. Since his first season He is actually been one of our most consitent players. Even most pundits will finally agree.
Wouldn't say he's worth 50m. The Luiz was an especially idiotic case on behalf of PSG. But with that in mind we should still be certainly looking to get a lot more out of Madrid than 21m! Not that I would sell him anyway.
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans
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can only assume you haven't seen him play more than a handful of games
Reason why non Arsenal fans don't rate Kos is because
A)They don't watch Arsenal regularly
B)He doesn't get hype
C)If Arsenal challenged for titles or even won them, he's status would be instantly elevated. Even though he'd be at same level he has been for some time. Just like Cahill is regarded top class, even though he is average.
One of the best defenders ever. I would only sell him for Benzema plus £10-15m.
on the contrary I have seen koscielny way too much, even live. he usually has a mare at the bridge, he had an absolute stinker in the league cup a couple years back where we on 2-0 at the emirates too, usually has a poor game in most big games, including champions league games where you expect your experience players to step up. he's just not very good. Only arsenal fans rate him, then get butthurt whenever people disagree.
The lack of decent PL cbs is alarming tbh.
hes a decent defender,
but hes no better than the shawcross's jagielka's and Cahills of this world, £21m is probably about right for a 29 year old.
he certainly isnt any where near the likes of Terry and Kompany, or before that Ferdinand
but hes no better than the shawcross's jagielka's and Cahills of this world,
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triPLE
Only a small minority of idiots don't rate him onhere
Most see him as the world class defender he is. On par with in form kompany
Makes Cahill look like nothing
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posted on 25/6/15
We're all going to Japan
posted on 25/6/15
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
posted on 25/6/15
£100M because he's the best CB in the world.
posted on 25/6/15
Its because they havnt had a decent Cb for over a decade brain...their overrating of koscileny is a joy to behold though
posted on 25/6/15
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
posted on 25/6/15
There really isn't a defender who comes to close to his level in PL in all fairness. £21 mill is a joke and insulting bid.
posted on 25/6/15
^
posted on 25/6/15
comment by HK: Theo is my Hero (U20000)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
posted on 25/6/15
Only Arsenal would finally buy a decent keeper, then sell their best defender.
posted on 25/6/15
Bit difficult to get Varane when rafa wants to pair varane/kos.
posted on 25/6/15
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HK: Theo is my Hero (U20000)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
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I will dumb it down for you. If an untested player like Stones is worth £30m, then a player like Kos is easily worth £50m.
posted on 25/6/15
You must remember any price for Stones is doubled because of the Englands next world class player factor.
posted on 25/6/15
Koscielny Such a big eared, injury prone, calamity.
posted on 25/6/15
comment by HK: Theo is my Hero (U20000)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HK: Theo is my Hero (U20000)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans. I expect that his name has just been thrown around as a result of Ramos' contract wrangle. Any mention of a £50m valuation for him instantly discredits the writer of such a comment as having no credibility whatsoever, as he is simply not that good.
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did you even read the article?. If Stones is worth £30m, then Kos is worth £50m
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Clearly I did, hence the reference to it's content. What is your point?
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I will dumb it down for you. If an untested player like Stones is worth £30m, then a player like Kos is easily worth £50m.
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Ok, then I shall simplify things for you. Transfer values cannot be calculated using your completely unsupported and incomplete criteria, using arbitrary valuations for selected players which you believe support your argument. Your view disregards so many relevant factors, that you remove all possibility for credibility in what you say. And finally, nobody will ever, in the entire duration of the entire world's existence, pay £50million for Koscielny.
posted on 25/6/15
In my opinion on his day Kos is the best centre back in the Prem. Better than Kompany , Terry etc. He is quick, and anticipates and recovers well . His tackling and heading are both excellent. I would be very angry if having got a decent keeper we screw up our defence by relying on Gabriel and Per.
Time to show some real ambition and NOT sell our best players . We were told that once the stadium was paid for we wouldn't need to sell any more.
So let's hang on to our jewels and get rid of the deadwood.
posted on 25/6/15
Kos is a good defender nothing more if put him in the top 5 CB in the premier league, but he is not worth anywhere near 50m, but can understand if Arsenal ask for silly money, PSG brought Luiz for 50m and he is rubbish
posted on 25/6/15
If Real offered £30Mil if would be interesting. I wouldnt sell for £21Mil though.
posted on 25/6/15
Koscielny is definitely better than rival fans think. Most made up their mind about Kos being crap after his mistake during the carling cup final. Most other fans will never watch a game and notice a defender when he's having a good game. They'll just quietly go about there business. As aposed to an inform striker who will score a load, and easily get noticed. Most of the time a CB will only come into attention when they make a mistake. Which is why idiotic rival fans think he is nothing but error prone. Since his first season He is actually been one of our most consitent players. Even most pundits will finally agree.
Wouldn't say he's worth 50m. The Luiz was an especially idiotic case on behalf of PSG. But with that in mind we should still be certainly looking to get a lot more out of Madrid than 21m! Not that I would sell him anyway.
posted on 25/6/15
Koscielny is a decent player, but hopelessly overrated by Arsenal fans
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can only assume you haven't seen him play more than a handful of games
posted on 25/6/15
Reason why non Arsenal fans don't rate Kos is because
A)They don't watch Arsenal regularly
B)He doesn't get hype
C)If Arsenal challenged for titles or even won them, he's status would be instantly elevated. Even though he'd be at same level he has been for some time. Just like Cahill is regarded top class, even though he is average.
posted on 25/6/15
One of the best defenders ever. I would only sell him for Benzema plus £10-15m.
posted on 25/6/15
on the contrary I have seen koscielny way too much, even live. he usually has a mare at the bridge, he had an absolute stinker in the league cup a couple years back where we on 2-0 at the emirates too, usually has a poor game in most big games, including champions league games where you expect your experience players to step up. he's just not very good. Only arsenal fans rate him, then get butthurt whenever people disagree.
The lack of decent PL cbs is alarming tbh.
posted on 25/6/15
hes a decent defender,
but hes no better than the shawcross's jagielka's and Cahills of this world, £21m is probably about right for a 29 year old.
he certainly isnt any where near the likes of Terry and Kompany, or before that Ferdinand
posted on 25/6/15
but hes no better than the shawcross's jagielka's and Cahills of this world,
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triPLE
posted on 25/6/15
Only a small minority of idiots don't rate him onhere
Most see him as the world class defender he is. On par with in form kompany
Makes Cahill look like nothing
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