Haha I've just realised that it was you I was talking to about the same thing with Kane / defence on the other article
Dembele and Verts frustrate me a lot. Both have massive potential, both have no consistency.
Patr1ck,
Yes, but are they better? I can see what the club and Pochettino are trying to do, by signing two defenders with PL experience and a highly regarded defender from abroad.
Just, there is more chance wimmer will be no better then Fazio or chiriches and Toby is worse then Verts and Tripper is worse then Naughton.
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I agree with you about Wimmer, I know nothing about him and I have previously voiced my concerns on buying defenders based on the fact they play for, or have captained, their country – and Chiriches and Fazio are good examples of this. However, Trippier was an ex-City graduate and moved for his own progression and I think he proved with Burnley he can play against the best. I appreciate Burnley went down but people can still recognise he did his job well.
And Alderweireld is simply an upgrade on all our CBs. Vertonghen – average, Dier – still learning, Chiriches – toilet, Fazio – toilet, Kaboul – hopefully on his way out. So this can only be good for our defence...
Patr1ck,
You're putting a positive spin on all your points and we have been here before,. same happened when we signed Lamela, Paulinho and Soldado.
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I know this was aimed at Greaves – not me, but those players you mention were not Premiership proven which I think is the key. And I never put a positive spin on anything regarding those players – I post from what I witness first hand and none of those players deserve any positivity.
Patr1ck
We signed Chadli to offer width from the wings, he wasn't signed to offer goals and assists in the manner that he does, its been a welcome surprise and no one predicted he would produce to the level he has.
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I’m sorry but the only things I did know about Chadli was that he was quick and he scored a lot of goals from the wing – so he was 100% signed to provide some of the goals we would miss from Bale’s sale.
I respect you for having an individual view on this subject – this is what we need on the boards – but in this instance I couldn’t disagree more.
comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 23 minutes ago
Haha I've just realised that it was you I was talking to about the same thing with Kane / defence on the other article
Dembele and Verts frustrate me a lot. Both have massive potential, both have no consistency.
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I may well have called that wrong and if this is the player the club signed, in terms of what to expect then all credit to them as if Chadli does improve then we have found an outstanding talent.
I still have an issue with his general play as he doesn't do much for the entire game, in terms of team play but of course has provided the team with goals/assists, so he is in danger of becoming a luxury player as aside from his end product he practically offers nothing to the team and thats why I still have question marks over his future as to if he can sustain his end product.
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posted on 8/7/15
Haha I've just realised that it was you I was talking to about the same thing with Kane / defence on the other article
Dembele and Verts frustrate me a lot. Both have massive potential, both have no consistency.
posted on 9/7/15
Patr1ck,
Yes, but are they better? I can see what the club and Pochettino are trying to do, by signing two defenders with PL experience and a highly regarded defender from abroad.
Just, there is more chance wimmer will be no better then Fazio or chiriches and Toby is worse then Verts and Tripper is worse then Naughton.
========================
I agree with you about Wimmer, I know nothing about him and I have previously voiced my concerns on buying defenders based on the fact they play for, or have captained, their country – and Chiriches and Fazio are good examples of this. However, Trippier was an ex-City graduate and moved for his own progression and I think he proved with Burnley he can play against the best. I appreciate Burnley went down but people can still recognise he did his job well.
And Alderweireld is simply an upgrade on all our CBs. Vertonghen – average, Dier – still learning, Chiriches – toilet, Fazio – toilet, Kaboul – hopefully on his way out. So this can only be good for our defence...
posted on 9/7/15
Patr1ck,
You're putting a positive spin on all your points and we have been here before,. same happened when we signed Lamela, Paulinho and Soldado.
============================
I know this was aimed at Greaves – not me, but those players you mention were not Premiership proven which I think is the key. And I never put a positive spin on anything regarding those players – I post from what I witness first hand and none of those players deserve any positivity.
posted on 9/7/15
Patr1ck
We signed Chadli to offer width from the wings, he wasn't signed to offer goals and assists in the manner that he does, its been a welcome surprise and no one predicted he would produce to the level he has.
============================
I’m sorry but the only things I did know about Chadli was that he was quick and he scored a lot of goals from the wing – so he was 100% signed to provide some of the goals we would miss from Bale’s sale.
I respect you for having an individual view on this subject – this is what we need on the boards – but in this instance I couldn’t disagree more.
posted on 9/7/15
comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 23 minutes ago
Haha I've just realised that it was you I was talking to about the same thing with Kane / defence on the other article
Dembele and Verts frustrate me a lot. Both have massive potential, both have no consistency.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I may well have called that wrong and if this is the player the club signed, in terms of what to expect then all credit to them as if Chadli does improve then we have found an outstanding talent.
I still have an issue with his general play as he doesn't do much for the entire game, in terms of team play but of course has provided the team with goals/assists, so he is in danger of becoming a luxury player as aside from his end product he practically offers nothing to the team and thats why I still have question marks over his future as to if he can sustain his end product.
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