comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 57 seconds ago
Brilliant article Viviano btw.
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"Oh look....who is showing up....the by the media brainwashed tool Sheriff...
I didnt even compare Bellerin to Alaba. I didnt say that Alaba is bad or something...To make of him a Messiahs is over the top."
The master of the strawman argument. Invents stupid disputes with no actual point. Who has called Alaba a messiah? I said he was miles better than Bellerin at the same stage of their career. Your strawman drivel doesn't cloud that reality. You might as well compare Ox with a 21-year-old Neymar.
Media brainwashed? Is that what your charade of bizarre comments dismissing players like Kaka or Shevchenko or any striker not named Aguero or Suarez is all about? So you can feel clever about not being "brainwashed" by the media? Keep kidding yourself.
The master of the strawman argument. Invents stupid disputes with no actual point. Who has called Alaba a messiah? I said he was miles better than Bellerin at the same stage of their career. Your strawman drivel doesn't cloud that reality.
I made a point but you ignored it and came back with the same rubbish as before. Alaba had the "normal" problems and werent consistent on the level required at Bayern. That is a fact....
You obviously being personal touched by my assumptions ref. to Kaka or Shevchenko the other day. Where is your argument here? I think both massively overrated and Shevchenko in the PL was a massive flop. Kaka at RM...ask spanish RM supporter and then come back.
Now move along you tool.
"We didn't have money to compete. Heck we barely have now. That you had to endure bants from rival fans as a result
doesn't change the circumstances."
I'm not even sure what your point is anymore. We didn't have money before; we have it now; but we shouldn't improve dodgy positions in the team because we have to give a developing 20-year-old a chance? Enduring "bants" from rival fans? You think I'm among the juvenile horde that pervades this board in the name of "banter"? By your logic, we don't need any signings anywhere. There are a host of players who need to be given a chance.
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
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Ozil and Sanchez are no Schneiderlin/Carvalho.
The point I have been making since is buy well or not at all.
When you see an opportunity to buy a proven winner who is pivotal to his national team and entering his prime, not leaving it, you do it.
When you buy a player who is still struggling for a place on the bench for the mighty France, for 30 Million, when you have a player who on current form would probably displace him by the end of the season, you don't.
Alexis, Ozil, Cech.
Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger.
Surely you see the difference.
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
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Again with the FIFAing.
In real life these players are bought for longterm viability (except you are Mourinho and can get away with buying a player in Jan and transfer-listing him in June.
Sissoko, good player like him, will not get games, and will be angling for a move to Crystal Palace by the end of the year.
Good managers don't sign players on longterm contracts if they don't need them longterm.
Have you seen Bielik play? Except the DM absolutely raises our level (and honestly no DM in the world can do that), I can't see any point in signing him.
Arteta is good enough to start against any team outside the Top 6 (West Ham down) without issue.
Why some need either Coq or some world class DM to sit on the bench "just in case" is beyond me.
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
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Ozil and Sanchez are no Schneiderlin/Carvalho.
The point I have been making since is buy well or not at all.
When you see an opportunity to buy a proven winner who is pivotal to his national team and entering his prime, not leaving it, you do it.
When you buy a player who is still struggling for a place on the bench for the mighty France, for 30 Million, when you have a player who on current form would probably displace him by the end of the season, you don't.
Alexis, Ozil, Cech.
Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger.
Surely you see the difference.
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*when you see...*
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 31 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
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Agree with you...think as well having a strong physical midfield to win games ugly in some games could be decisive over a long season. I would Wenger to spend in that area. Almost 4 weeks to go in the transfer market....Fingers crossed.
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
[Kallstrom/Benayoun] - type loan?.
I just look at the current DM situation and see the succession.
Arteta --(9 years)--> Coq --(7 years)--> Bielik
With Flamini there to close out close matches if we really need 3 DMs on the pitch.
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 55 seconds ago
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
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Which is why most of our players are capable of doing a job in multiple position.
Walcott - Both Wings. ST
Ox - Both wings, midfield
Wilshere - Right wing, 10, Deep lying
Ramsey - CM, 10, Right wing, Right Back, DM
Welbeck - Both wings/ ST
Chambers - RB/CB/DM
Debuchy - RB/CB <-- shockingly good when he played there
Rosicky - LW/AM/RW
Depth.
Man I thought we sold Flamini Worth keeping around imo.
Viviano talking a lot of sense
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 55 seconds ago
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
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Which is why most of our players are capable of doing a job in multiple position.
Walcott - Both Wings. ST
Ox - Both wings, midfield
Wilshere - Right wing, 10, Deep lying
Ramsey - CM, 10, Right wing, Right Back, DM
Welbeck - Both wings/ ST
Chambers - RB/CB/DM
Debuchy - RB/CB <-- shockingly good when he played there
Rosicky - LW/AM/RW
Depth.
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At least in theory.
What concerns me is that despite all the fancy permutations, we ended up playing a 19- year old 30 times. Coquelin had 30 appearances in 5 months, while Santi and Per ended up with more than 50 appearances in all competitions.
These lads aren't robots, and will inevitably fall apart if we keep pretending that there's cover.
^^^^
Sanchez - 50 apps
Giroud - 36 apps(despite missing a third of the season)
We're carrying a lot of knackered players into the new season while still keeping the same passengers we had last time.
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
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And unless we tap up their biomechanical geneticist doctors, we still have cause for concern.
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 48 minutes ago
Man I thought we sold FlaminiWorth keeping around imo.
Viviano talking a lot of sense
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He does
Is rare these days at the Arsenal board but this is a very good article and people give him 5 's for his effort.
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
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And unless we tap up their biomechanical geneticist doctors, we still have cause for concern.
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yeah....our success depends on our injury list than on the ability of our players.
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
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Again with the FIFAing.
In real life these players are bought for longterm viability (except you are Mourinho and can get away with buying a player in Jan and transfer-listing him in June.
Sissoko, good player like him, will not get games, and will be angling for a move to Crystal Palace by the end of the year.
Good managers don't sign players on longterm contracts if they don't need them longterm.
Have you seen Bielik play? Except the DM absolutely raises our level (and honestly no DM in the world can do that), I can't see any point in signing him.
Arteta is good enough to start against any team outside the Top 6 (West Ham down) without issue.
Why some need either Coq or some world class DM to sit on the bench "just in case" is beyond me.
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But that DM does not have to be world class Viviano. Just a strong guy with running power and a decent pass.
There was a moment in the Charity Shield game on Sunday when William pick up the ball and slalomed through three of our players as if they were not there. Coquelin does the job well more because of his brilliant positioning than his speed.
Imagine Arteta have to stop Sterling on a City counter!
But that DM does not have to be world class Viviano. Just a strong guy with running power and a decent pass.
There was a moment in the Charity Shield game on Sunday when William pick up the ball and slalomed through three of our players as if they were not there. Coquelin does the job well more because of his brilliant positioning than his speed.
Imagine Arteta have to stop Sterling on a City counter!
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I'd put that down to Willian being a very difficult player to stop than to our midfield needing another DM.
If someone like Mikel Obi (not bad but lacking ambition and willing to nick a living get 10 odd sub appearances a year) is available on loan, then do it.
But sitting down with a DM that is actually showing promise, like Carvalho, and explaining to him why he is on the bench week after week when you just payed 30 Million for him, won't be an easy task.
PSG thought they needed Cabaye. Fast forward a year and he is sold for a 7.5 million pound loss not including the wages he was paid to sit on the bench, agent fees and signing on bonuses.
We bought Andre Santos as a backup. Then had to literally pay him to play anywhere but with us.
Short term it might be a good idea to buy a backup player. But long-term all you do is kill Bielik's drive to improve and disenfranchise your captain.
Even as an average player Arteta is of massive importance to the dressing room. Pisssing him off will pisss off others in the team.
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 9 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
How much more time do we give, over the last 19 years we have always been '2 or 3 players away from competing'. This season that is actually the case and despite our financial resources we seem like we are going to ignore 2 glaring weaknesses in the squad which everyone can see needs addressing.
And regarding the 2 spots we in XI we filled internally, Bellerin only came in at RB after Wenger spent £25M on Flops. Coquelin nailing DM down was purely by luck, Wenger himself admitted he was not in his plans anymore. We are not going to get that luck again, Theo could prove to be the answer up front but we have nobody in the squad who can play Coquelin's specialist role. Basically if Coq gets injured we have to play Ramsey alongside Arteta and Cazorla ends up on the bench when he was been pivotal to our turn in form since the turn of the year.
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You know, you are right. Everything you've described is a very real possibility this coming season.
But look around you. Other teams are showing similar deficiencies. It's football.
Chelsea has one good striker.
United has no senior defender of quality.
City has 1 good defender, 1 striker and 5/6 overpaid players they need to get rid of.
Livepool has bought another handfull of mercenaries they don't need to solve problems they don't have.
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We shouldn't be worrying about other teams, we should be worrying about our own. The fact you have listed all these opposition deficiencies makes it even weirder not to address our own. City are being restricted by the HG rules, Chelsea have to sell if they want to spend, United are facing another squad overhaul, Liverpool are irrelevant. We have the resources and stability to really take this campaign by the scruff of the neck and we are sitting on our hands. I'm not asking for multiple big name signings, I just want adequate cover for Coquelin and if I'm really pushed, a quality wide forward or striker. This is the first time in a long time that people view us as a genuine threat but we could really be seen as favorites with the right additions to the squad and it sadly looks like it won't happen
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
How much more time do we give, over the last 19 years we have always been '2 or 3 players away from competing'. This season that is actually the case and despite our financial resources we seem like we are going to ignore 2 glaring weaknesses in the squad which everyone can see needs addressing.
And regarding the 2 spots we in XI we filled internally, Bellerin only came in at RB after Wenger spent £25M on Flops. Coquelin nailing DM down was purely by luck, Wenger himself admitted he was not in his plans anymore. We are not going to get that luck again, Theo could prove to be the answer up front but we have nobody in the squad who can play Coquelin's specialist role. Basically if Coq gets injured we have to play Ramsey alongside Arteta and Cazorla ends up on the bench when he was been pivotal to our turn in form since the turn of the year.
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You love Carzola but even he can have a run of bad games. He went awol a few times last season and can do again. Our entire season doesnt depend on Carzola playing every single game he will dip in and out of form just like everyone else
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He had 2 and a half bad games when he was moved central. First half vs Monaco and when he was subbed off vs United and Spurs. It's no coincidence that we didn't win any of these games, because he is our most important player and pivotal to the way we play. We shouldn't go into the season thinking he's gonna have a sticky patch because it's irrelevant, he could be having the time of his life when Coq gets injured/suspended and then we are in deep shít
2nd half vs Monaco
Btw the comments on here about Bellerin are rubbish. Obviously he is not the finished article, he's a fkin kid, but he has show plenty of promise and has seldom cost us, especially since he has become a regular. It would be insane to replace him, logic states he's only going to get better when he's playing regularly and with confidence. I wouldn't mind getting shot of Debuchy but Jenkinson is gone on loan now so we may aswell keep Debuchy as back up. He has been handy at CB to be fair so will be useful enough if he keeps Chambers out of contention.
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posted on 4/8/15
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 57 seconds ago
Brilliant article Viviano btw.
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posted on 4/8/15
"Oh look....who is showing up....the by the media brainwashed tool Sheriff...
I didnt even compare Bellerin to Alaba. I didnt say that Alaba is bad or something...To make of him a Messiahs is over the top."
The master of the strawman argument. Invents stupid disputes with no actual point. Who has called Alaba a messiah? I said he was miles better than Bellerin at the same stage of their career. Your strawman drivel doesn't cloud that reality. You might as well compare Ox with a 21-year-old Neymar.
Media brainwashed? Is that what your charade of bizarre comments dismissing players like Kaka or Shevchenko or any striker not named Aguero or Suarez is all about? So you can feel clever about not being "brainwashed" by the media? Keep kidding yourself.
posted on 4/8/15
The master of the strawman argument. Invents stupid disputes with no actual point. Who has called Alaba a messiah? I said he was miles better than Bellerin at the same stage of their career. Your strawman drivel doesn't cloud that reality.
I made a point but you ignored it and came back with the same rubbish as before. Alaba had the "normal" problems and werent consistent on the level required at Bayern. That is a fact....
You obviously being personal touched by my assumptions ref. to Kaka or Shevchenko the other day. Where is your argument here? I think both massively overrated and Shevchenko in the PL was a massive flop. Kaka at RM...ask spanish RM supporter and then come back.
Now move along you tool.
posted on 4/8/15
"We didn't have money to compete. Heck we barely have now. That you had to endure bants from rival fans as a result
doesn't change the circumstances."
I'm not even sure what your point is anymore. We didn't have money before; we have it now; but we shouldn't improve dodgy positions in the team because we have to give a developing 20-year-old a chance? Enduring "bants" from rival fans? You think I'm among the juvenile horde that pervades this board in the name of "banter"? By your logic, we don't need any signings anywhere. There are a host of players who need to be given a chance.
posted on 4/8/15
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
posted on 4/8/15
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
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Ozil and Sanchez are no Schneiderlin/Carvalho.
The point I have been making since is buy well or not at all.
When you see an opportunity to buy a proven winner who is pivotal to his national team and entering his prime, not leaving it, you do it.
When you buy a player who is still struggling for a place on the bench for the mighty France, for 30 Million, when you have a player who on current form would probably displace him by the end of the season, you don't.
Alexis, Ozil, Cech.
Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger.
Surely you see the difference.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again with the FIFAing.
In real life these players are bought for longterm viability (except you are Mourinho and can get away with buying a player in Jan and transfer-listing him in June.
Sissoko, good player like him, will not get games, and will be angling for a move to Crystal Palace by the end of the year.
Good managers don't sign players on longterm contracts if they don't need them longterm.
Have you seen Bielik play? Except the DM absolutely raises our level (and honestly no DM in the world can do that), I can't see any point in signing him.
Arteta is good enough to start against any team outside the Top 6 (West Ham down) without issue.
Why some need either Coq or some world class DM to sit on the bench "just in case" is beyond me.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't really get this article.
Preaches for youngsters to be given time ahead of expensive buys, then goes on to name our 2 most expensive players ever in a list of key players.
Which is it? Should we have not bought Sanchez and Ozil in fear of killing Ox and Wilshere?
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Ozil and Sanchez are no Schneiderlin/Carvalho.
The point I have been making since is buy well or not at all.
When you see an opportunity to buy a proven winner who is pivotal to his national team and entering his prime, not leaving it, you do it.
When you buy a player who is still struggling for a place on the bench for the mighty France, for 30 Million, when you have a player who on current form would probably displace him by the end of the season, you don't.
Alexis, Ozil, Cech.
Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger.
Surely you see the difference.
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*when you see...*
posted on 4/8/15
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 31 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
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Agree with you...think as well having a strong physical midfield to win games ugly in some games could be decisive over a long season. I would Wenger to spend in that area. Almost 4 weeks to go in the transfer market....Fingers crossed.
posted on 4/8/15
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
posted on 4/8/15
[Kallstrom/Benayoun] - type loan?.
I just look at the current DM situation and see the succession.
Arteta --(9 years)--> Coq --(7 years)--> Bielik
With Flamini there to close out close matches if we really need 3 DMs on the pitch.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 55 seconds ago
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
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Which is why most of our players are capable of doing a job in multiple position.
Walcott - Both Wings. ST
Ox - Both wings, midfield
Wilshere - Right wing, 10, Deep lying
Ramsey - CM, 10, Right wing, Right Back, DM
Welbeck - Both wings/ ST
Chambers - RB/CB/DM
Debuchy - RB/CB <-- shockingly good when he played there
Rosicky - LW/AM/RW
Depth.
posted on 4/8/15
Man I thought we sold Flamini Worth keeping around imo.
Viviano talking a lot of sense
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 55 seconds ago
In "real life", it would be reckless to expect more than 5 consecutive weeks of football each, from Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Debuchy, Flamini, Chambers, Gibbs, Rosicky or Arteta. That's half the squad right there. This is without even considering Koscielny's dodgy hamstrings or the pain injections that carried Giroud through the last six months.
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Which is why most of our players are capable of doing a job in multiple position.
Walcott - Both Wings. ST
Ox - Both wings, midfield
Wilshere - Right wing, 10, Deep lying
Ramsey - CM, 10, Right wing, Right Back, DM
Welbeck - Both wings/ ST
Chambers - RB/CB/DM
Debuchy - RB/CB <-- shockingly good when he played there
Rosicky - LW/AM/RW
Depth.
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At least in theory.
What concerns me is that despite all the fancy permutations, we ended up playing a 19- year old 30 times. Coquelin had 30 appearances in 5 months, while Santi and Per ended up with more than 50 appearances in all competitions.
These lads aren't robots, and will inevitably fall apart if we keep pretending that there's cover.
posted on 4/8/15
^^^^
Sanchez - 50 apps
Giroud - 36 apps(despite missing a third of the season)
We're carrying a lot of knackered players into the new season while still keeping the same passengers we had last time.
posted on 4/8/15
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
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And unless we tap up their biomechanical geneticist doctors, we still have cause for concern.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 48 minutes ago
Man I thought we sold FlaminiWorth keeping around imo.
Viviano talking a lot of sense
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He does
Is rare these days at the Arsenal board but this is a very good article and people give him 5 's for his effort.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea barely changed their xi once.
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And unless we tap up their biomechanical geneticist doctors, we still have cause for concern.
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yeah....our success depends on our injury list than on the ability of our players.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree with the general premise of the article.
Still feel we need another strong presence in the middle . There will be times (as Chelsea demonstrated last season) where we will need to win games ugly in the coming campaign. Arteta is waning physically by the day; Flamini is pants.
Hell, I will even take Newcastle's Sissiko now and coach him to curb his attacking forays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again with the FIFAing.
In real life these players are bought for longterm viability (except you are Mourinho and can get away with buying a player in Jan and transfer-listing him in June.
Sissoko, good player like him, will not get games, and will be angling for a move to Crystal Palace by the end of the year.
Good managers don't sign players on longterm contracts if they don't need them longterm.
Have you seen Bielik play? Except the DM absolutely raises our level (and honestly no DM in the world can do that), I can't see any point in signing him.
Arteta is good enough to start against any team outside the Top 6 (West Ham down) without issue.
Why some need either Coq or some world class DM to sit on the bench "just in case" is beyond me.
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But that DM does not have to be world class Viviano. Just a strong guy with running power and a decent pass.
There was a moment in the Charity Shield game on Sunday when William pick up the ball and slalomed through three of our players as if they were not there. Coquelin does the job well more because of his brilliant positioning than his speed.
Imagine Arteta have to stop Sterling on a City counter!
posted on 4/8/15
But that DM does not have to be world class Viviano. Just a strong guy with running power and a decent pass.
There was a moment in the Charity Shield game on Sunday when William pick up the ball and slalomed through three of our players as if they were not there. Coquelin does the job well more because of his brilliant positioning than his speed.
Imagine Arteta have to stop Sterling on a City counter!
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I'd put that down to Willian being a very difficult player to stop than to our midfield needing another DM.
If someone like Mikel Obi (not bad but lacking ambition and willing to nick a living get 10 odd sub appearances a year) is available on loan, then do it.
But sitting down with a DM that is actually showing promise, like Carvalho, and explaining to him why he is on the bench week after week when you just payed 30 Million for him, won't be an easy task.
PSG thought they needed Cabaye. Fast forward a year and he is sold for a 7.5 million pound loss not including the wages he was paid to sit on the bench, agent fees and signing on bonuses.
We bought Andre Santos as a backup. Then had to literally pay him to play anywhere but with us.
Short term it might be a good idea to buy a backup player. But long-term all you do is kill Bielik's drive to improve and disenfranchise your captain.
Even as an average player Arteta is of massive importance to the dressing room. Pisssing him off will pisss off others in the team.
posted on 4/8/15
comment by Viviano's Debut (U19138)
posted 9 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
How much more time do we give, over the last 19 years we have always been '2 or 3 players away from competing'. This season that is actually the case and despite our financial resources we seem like we are going to ignore 2 glaring weaknesses in the squad which everyone can see needs addressing.
And regarding the 2 spots we in XI we filled internally, Bellerin only came in at RB after Wenger spent £25M on Flops. Coquelin nailing DM down was purely by luck, Wenger himself admitted he was not in his plans anymore. We are not going to get that luck again, Theo could prove to be the answer up front but we have nobody in the squad who can play Coquelin's specialist role. Basically if Coq gets injured we have to play Ramsey alongside Arteta and Cazorla ends up on the bench when he was been pivotal to our turn in form since the turn of the year.
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You know, you are right. Everything you've described is a very real possibility this coming season.
But look around you. Other teams are showing similar deficiencies. It's football.
Chelsea has one good striker.
United has no senior defender of quality.
City has 1 good defender, 1 striker and 5/6 overpaid players they need to get rid of.
Livepool has bought another handfull of mercenaries they don't need to solve problems they don't have.
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We shouldn't be worrying about other teams, we should be worrying about our own. The fact you have listed all these opposition deficiencies makes it even weirder not to address our own. City are being restricted by the HG rules, Chelsea have to sell if they want to spend, United are facing another squad overhaul, Liverpool are irrelevant. We have the resources and stability to really take this campaign by the scruff of the neck and we are sitting on our hands. I'm not asking for multiple big name signings, I just want adequate cover for Coquelin and if I'm really pushed, a quality wide forward or striker. This is the first time in a long time that people view us as a genuine threat but we could really be seen as favorites with the right additions to the squad and it sadly looks like it won't happen
posted on 4/8/15
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
How much more time do we give, over the last 19 years we have always been '2 or 3 players away from competing'. This season that is actually the case and despite our financial resources we seem like we are going to ignore 2 glaring weaknesses in the squad which everyone can see needs addressing.
And regarding the 2 spots we in XI we filled internally, Bellerin only came in at RB after Wenger spent £25M on Flops. Coquelin nailing DM down was purely by luck, Wenger himself admitted he was not in his plans anymore. We are not going to get that luck again, Theo could prove to be the answer up front but we have nobody in the squad who can play Coquelin's specialist role. Basically if Coq gets injured we have to play Ramsey alongside Arteta and Cazorla ends up on the bench when he was been pivotal to our turn in form since the turn of the year.
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You love Carzola but even he can have a run of bad games. He went awol a few times last season and can do again. Our entire season doesnt depend on Carzola playing every single game he will dip in and out of form just like everyone else
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He had 2 and a half bad games when he was moved central. First half vs Monaco and when he was subbed off vs United and Spurs. It's no coincidence that we didn't win any of these games, because he is our most important player and pivotal to the way we play. We shouldn't go into the season thinking he's gonna have a sticky patch because it's irrelevant, he could be having the time of his life when Coq gets injured/suspended and then we are in deep shít
posted on 4/8/15
2nd half vs Monaco
Btw the comments on here about Bellerin are rubbish. Obviously he is not the finished article, he's a fkin kid, but he has show plenty of promise and has seldom cost us, especially since he has become a regular. It would be insane to replace him, logic states he's only going to get better when he's playing regularly and with confidence. I wouldn't mind getting shot of Debuchy but Jenkinson is gone on loan now so we may aswell keep Debuchy as back up. He has been handy at CB to be fair so will be useful enough if he keeps Chambers out of contention.
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