Inventor you really need to give up the Ozil bum licking.
We all watch the games and can see it for our own eyes.
8bit is right, if he has a poor 20 mins at the start he is virtually a passenger for the remaining 70mins
This season is make or break for him. United did it with Di Maria after one season.
It's easy to forget with all these excuses that Ozil is a facking no.10. Many of the greatest most productive players in history (Jairzinho, Rivelino, Cryuff, Platini, Zico, Maradonna etc) played the position and they could all grab the game by the scruff and make things happen in decisive moments - something anyone not telling himself bare-faced lies would admit Ozil looks miles from doing for us. Apart from the fact he disappears a lot in the key moments, he is quite inconsistent. Just when you think he may be turning a corner, he destroys all optimism with yet another stinker. And just about every single time the team play badly, he has a stinker. He's a fair-weather footballer.
The biggest problem for us is that our approach play can be so static. Compare that to Real Madrid where their players were constantly on the move. Ozil's a quality player, but he's not a magician. With the way that we play sometimes most playmakers would struggle.
Cazorla doesn't pass through the lines either. Ozil and even Wilshere are more superior passers at the club.
Cazorla is okay deep because he can dribble his way out of tight situations but he can't pass through the lines the way even Arteta can do hence our most fluent football coming early 13/14 (without Santi present btw)
Cazorla is a wonderful player but nowhere near as creative as people think and certainly not on Ozil's platform
Guy cost a fortune but his lack of form for last 2 seasons is down to Giroud
Inventor give up the act now please, surely this is just a wum
Yet this guy can't even set up Giroud.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Inventor is worse with Ozil than GT is with Giroud.
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Difference is, he's clueless I'm not. Highest IQ on this board. Shown most the board up in the past, will certainly continue to do so in the future.
Hell look at how everyone agrees Giroud isn't enough. I can take you to an article very early days where I was slated for that opinion by these same people.
Like I said if Ozil has the team built to his strengths and still underperforms I'll happily slate him but for now I know the main reasons for it and I'm hopeful they'll be addressed by the end of the month.
I can't think of anything for Giroud however, he gets the chances a CF dreams of and fails to convert the majority
Santi played no.10 in his first season and was our best player, got moved wide when Ozil signed and lost his form. Last season when Ozil got injured Santi played his best football again central and not only that but the team was flying... but Ozil got fit and came in straight away and Santi gets moved wide. Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
As much as I don't like Mourinho there's a reason he always took off Ozil at 60mins, when we're hanging on the games it's so obvious we need to take off the luxury of Ozil but he plays 90 mins, it's unexplainable and so frustrating to watch it. Our form at the end of last season papered over a lot of cracked because we weren't easily beating teams every game.
Cazorla is nowhere near as good just because he's more pleasing to watch he's not even close to Ozil's level of thinking or dictatorship and also is the master of no role.
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Ozil and "dictatorship" in the same sentence. The first guy to disappear when we're playing badly is our dictator. You can keep perpetuating your uninformed nonsense. It's clear anyone who actually has eyes to watch the game dispassionately without his head buried in Ozil's ar .se that Cazorla has comfortably outperformed him and wields greater influence to Arsenal's play than Ozil. Even in games where we struggle, he's most often one of the only bright spots.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's easy to forget with all these excuses that Ozil is a facking no.10. Many of the greatest most productive players in history (Jairzinho, Rivelino, Cryuff, Platini, Zico, Maradonna etc) played the position and they could all grab the game by the scruff and make things happen in decisive moments - something anyone not telling himself bare-faced lies would admit Ozil looks miles from doing for us. Apart from the fact he disappears a lot in the key moments, he is quite inconsistent. Just when you think he may be turning a corner, he destroys all optimism with yet another stinker. And just about every single time the team play badly, he has a stinker. He's a fair-weather footballer.
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This Ozil has definitely not hit the heights.
Highest IQ on this board.
Poor man's RGK.
Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
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The worst was the Bayern game at the Emirates. Cazorla running rings round their midfield and easily the best player on the pitch. Chesney gets sent off and facking Cazorla is the one who gets sacrificed. Of course you could guarantee who would have the biggest stinker ambling about on the pitch as Bayern totally overran us.
The same Cesc that made Adebayor look world class and made Chamakh and Bendtner look like decent players needs Costa?
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Prime Adebayor is miles better than Giroud though also makes good runs and was very goal-hungry, Ozil even linked up well with him during their time together at Madrid.
Arsenal - Cesc had everything in his game and was a better player than current Ozil. He could control, playmake, create and do the lot.
Current Cesc is a very different player than the one that left though so yes my point stands.
If you think he still dominates the middle the same way he used to at Arsenal then you need to watch more.
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
Cesc and Silva have much better surroundings than Ozil does infront of them that's a fact.
Eriksen and Coutinho play better than Ozil in worse teams.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 7 minutes ago
Guy cost a fortune but his lack of form for last 2 seasons is down to Giroud
Inventor give up the act now please, surely this is just a wum
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Same way you were Wumming when you said Walcott's better than Alexis
Or slated Ox before going on to say how he's a must starter
There's very few more lost and deluded than you Castor. You're a play toy for RGK and Kam lmao they bully you off your own articles the cheek of you trying to pipe up with your very limited knowledge is hilarious.
Only seem to come back when people are on your side you coward.
Anyway you really don't have any respect from me on this board so kindly fack off as I won't be paying you much attention. Your level of understanding is incredibly low, stick to your limited repetitive topics slating Wenger and stating how we'll end up 4th like you always do you depressed mug
comment by Oxlade-Chambers (Inventor) (U6157)
posted 42 seconds ago
The same Cesc that made Adebayor look world class and made Chamakh and Bendtner look like decent players needs Costa?
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Prime Adebayor is miles better than Giroud though also makes good runs and was very goal-hungry, Ozil even linked up well with him during their time together at Madrid.
Arsenal - Cesc had everything in his game and was a better player than current Ozil. He could control, playmake, create and do the lot.
Current Cesc is a very different player than the one that left though so yes my point stands.
If you think he still dominates the middle the same way he used to at Arsenal then you need to watch more.
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
Cesc and Silva have much better surroundings than Ozil does infront of them that's a fact.
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Shut the fack up inventor . Ozil has been mostly disappointing and has to step up.
He gives up too easily in a tussle and will not shoot to save his life .
He shouldn't get a certain start and should earn the shirt.
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
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Costa is not an "absolute monster". He's a good, efficient striker. You're bigging him up to suit your argument. And no, Costa didn't miss a lot of the 2nd half of the campaign at all. He missed just a couple of matches. Cesc's loss of form had fack all to do with Costa. A big 2nd-half-of-season lull is something he has become notorious for.
You're the one who spent time talking about how Alexis is better than Hazard while disparaging Chelsea's other players and you're suddenly now making them out to be legends. Is that because Cesc shows up your delusion about Ozil?
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Highest IQ on this board.
Poor man's RGK.
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Disappointed in you there tbh. Used to respect your opinion but seems your obsession with Arsenal has turned you into a similar poster.
You spend all day on this board you clown and fully engage in the biggest articles from start to end every day lmao.
A supposed United fan
Your mind revolves around Wilshere's potential, Wenger managing us and how great you think we used to be.
You must be the United board version of Sheriff. Who's not a supporter of the club he claims but instead is obsessed with a rival club and will comment/praise them at will.
Fack me get a life. Pretty sure you just won a big game against a top 6 rival (team you'll be competing with this season) yet you're fussed about Giroud and Ozil on our board LMAO
What a pathetic clown you are
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 31 seconds ago
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
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Costa is not an "absolute monster". He's a good, efficient striker. You're bigging him up to suit your argument. And no, Costa didn't miss a lot of the 2nd half of the campaign at all. He missed just a couple of matches. Cesc's loss of form had fack all to do with Costa. A big 2nd-half-of-season lull is something he has become notorious for.
You're the one who spent time talking about how Alexis is better than Hazard while disparaging Chelsea's other players and you're suddenly now making them out to be legends. Is that because Cesc shows up your delusion about Ozil?
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Alexis is better than Hazard for me. Doesn't mean he suits a playmaker more given that he constantly cuts into central areas and often hogs the ball. Moot point. Next.
OP,
I bet you couldn't tell me the first thing about Ian Wright as a footballer if I asked you to. He was nothing like what would be considered top class by the standards of today. Giroud is legitamently a better forward that Wrighty was. Cringeworthy stuff.
Eriksen and Coutinho play better than Ozil in worse teams.
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I wouldn't know about playing better. Eriksen looked crap loads of times last season and his scoring record flatters him, cos he strikes a great ball. Coutinho had a great 2 months of form late in the season and many forgot how medicore he was before. But they've looked no worse than Ozil despite costing half Ozil's fee COMBINED.
"t have any respect from me on this board so kindly fack off as I won't be paying you much attention. Your level of understanding is incredibly low, stick to your limited repetitive topics slating Wenger and stating how we'll end up 4th like you always do you depressed mug"
haha what a sensitive soul
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 12 minutes ago
Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
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The worst was the Bayern game at the Emirates. Cazorla running rings round their midfield and easily the best player on the pitch. Chesney gets sent off and facking Cazorla is the one who gets sacrificed. Of course you could guarantee who would have the biggest stinker ambling about on the pitch as Bayern totally overran us.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA Cazorla running rings around Bayern. Are you sure? Wilshere did much more that day. If that was the case even Wenger wouldn't have been stupid enough to take the most effective player off in such a situation.
We recreating history now? Running rings around Bayern. Ozil was very poor that game.... see I can be honest without making up absolute boIIox!
Someone's wound up.
I came on this article because your rants are hilarious.
And my points were valid. Ozil is a bigger disappointment. As Ozil is as good as you are claiming surely you must be one of the most disappointed with how he's played?
You make too many excuses for him and then give off this ridiculous arrogance when people disagree with you.
comment by The Number 4 Shirt (U19487)
posted 53 seconds ago
OP,
I bet you couldn't tell me the first thing about Ian Wright as a footballer if I asked you to. He was nothing like what would be considered top class by the standards of today. Giroud is legitamently a better forward that Wrighty was. Cringeworthy stuff.
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Wright was a killer in front of goal. Bergkamp enjoyed him and I'm sure Ozil would have.
Giroud would never contribute to the club the same way Wrighty did, silly comment. Next.
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posted on 10/8/15
Inventor you really need to give up the Ozil bum licking.
We all watch the games and can see it for our own eyes.
8bit is right, if he has a poor 20 mins at the start he is virtually a passenger for the remaining 70mins
This season is make or break for him. United did it with Di Maria after one season.
posted on 10/8/15
It's easy to forget with all these excuses that Ozil is a facking no.10. Many of the greatest most productive players in history (Jairzinho, Rivelino, Cryuff, Platini, Zico, Maradonna etc) played the position and they could all grab the game by the scruff and make things happen in decisive moments - something anyone not telling himself bare-faced lies would admit Ozil looks miles from doing for us. Apart from the fact he disappears a lot in the key moments, he is quite inconsistent. Just when you think he may be turning a corner, he destroys all optimism with yet another stinker. And just about every single time the team play badly, he has a stinker. He's a fair-weather footballer.
posted on 10/8/15
The biggest problem for us is that our approach play can be so static. Compare that to Real Madrid where their players were constantly on the move. Ozil's a quality player, but he's not a magician. With the way that we play sometimes most playmakers would struggle.
posted on 10/8/15
Cazorla doesn't pass through the lines either. Ozil and even Wilshere are more superior passers at the club.
Cazorla is okay deep because he can dribble his way out of tight situations but he can't pass through the lines the way even Arteta can do hence our most fluent football coming early 13/14 (without Santi present btw)
Cazorla is a wonderful player but nowhere near as creative as people think and certainly not on Ozil's platform
posted on 10/8/15
Guy cost a fortune but his lack of form for last 2 seasons is down to Giroud
Inventor give up the act now please, surely this is just a wum
posted on 10/8/15
Yet this guy can't even set up Giroud.
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Inventor is worse with Ozil than GT is with Giroud.
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Difference is, he's clueless I'm not. Highest IQ on this board. Shown most the board up in the past, will certainly continue to do so in the future.
Hell look at how everyone agrees Giroud isn't enough. I can take you to an article very early days where I was slated for that opinion by these same people.
Like I said if Ozil has the team built to his strengths and still underperforms I'll happily slate him but for now I know the main reasons for it and I'm hopeful they'll be addressed by the end of the month.
I can't think of anything for Giroud however, he gets the chances a CF dreams of and fails to convert the majority
posted on 10/8/15
Santi played no.10 in his first season and was our best player, got moved wide when Ozil signed and lost his form. Last season when Ozil got injured Santi played his best football again central and not only that but the team was flying... but Ozil got fit and came in straight away and Santi gets moved wide. Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
As much as I don't like Mourinho there's a reason he always took off Ozil at 60mins, when we're hanging on the games it's so obvious we need to take off the luxury of Ozil but he plays 90 mins, it's unexplainable and so frustrating to watch it. Our form at the end of last season papered over a lot of cracked because we weren't easily beating teams every game.
posted on 10/8/15
Cazorla is nowhere near as good just because he's more pleasing to watch he's not even close to Ozil's level of thinking or dictatorship and also is the master of no role.
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Ozil and "dictatorship" in the same sentence. The first guy to disappear when we're playing badly is our dictator. You can keep perpetuating your uninformed nonsense. It's clear anyone who actually has eyes to watch the game dispassionately without his head buried in Ozil's ar .se that Cazorla has comfortably outperformed him and wields greater influence to Arsenal's play than Ozil. Even in games where we struggle, he's most often one of the only bright spots.
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's easy to forget with all these excuses that Ozil is a facking no.10. Many of the greatest most productive players in history (Jairzinho, Rivelino, Cryuff, Platini, Zico, Maradonna etc) played the position and they could all grab the game by the scruff and make things happen in decisive moments - something anyone not telling himself bare-faced lies would admit Ozil looks miles from doing for us. Apart from the fact he disappears a lot in the key moments, he is quite inconsistent. Just when you think he may be turning a corner, he destroys all optimism with yet another stinker. And just about every single time the team play badly, he has a stinker. He's a fair-weather footballer.
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This Ozil has definitely not hit the heights.
posted on 10/8/15
Highest IQ on this board.
Poor man's RGK.
posted on 10/8/15
Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
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The worst was the Bayern game at the Emirates. Cazorla running rings round their midfield and easily the best player on the pitch. Chesney gets sent off and facking Cazorla is the one who gets sacrificed. Of course you could guarantee who would have the biggest stinker ambling about on the pitch as Bayern totally overran us.
posted on 10/8/15
The same Cesc that made Adebayor look world class and made Chamakh and Bendtner look like decent players needs Costa?
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Prime Adebayor is miles better than Giroud though also makes good runs and was very goal-hungry, Ozil even linked up well with him during their time together at Madrid.
Arsenal - Cesc had everything in his game and was a better player than current Ozil. He could control, playmake, create and do the lot.
Current Cesc is a very different player than the one that left though so yes my point stands.
If you think he still dominates the middle the same way he used to at Arsenal then you need to watch more.
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
Cesc and Silva have much better surroundings than Ozil does infront of them that's a fact.
posted on 10/8/15
Eriksen and Coutinho play better than Ozil in worse teams.
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 7 minutes ago
Guy cost a fortune but his lack of form for last 2 seasons is down to Giroud
Inventor give up the act now please, surely this is just a wum
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Same way you were Wumming when you said Walcott's better than Alexis
Or slated Ox before going on to say how he's a must starter
There's very few more lost and deluded than you Castor. You're a play toy for RGK and Kam lmao they bully you off your own articles the cheek of you trying to pipe up with your very limited knowledge is hilarious.
Only seem to come back when people are on your side you coward.
Anyway you really don't have any respect from me on this board so kindly fack off as I won't be paying you much attention. Your level of understanding is incredibly low, stick to your limited repetitive topics slating Wenger and stating how we'll end up 4th like you always do you depressed mug
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Oxlade-Chambers (Inventor) (U6157)
posted 42 seconds ago
The same Cesc that made Adebayor look world class and made Chamakh and Bendtner look like decent players needs Costa?
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Prime Adebayor is miles better than Giroud though also makes good runs and was very goal-hungry, Ozil even linked up well with him during their time together at Madrid.
Arsenal - Cesc had everything in his game and was a better player than current Ozil. He could control, playmake, create and do the lot.
Current Cesc is a very different player than the one that left though so yes my point stands.
If you think he still dominates the middle the same way he used to at Arsenal then you need to watch more.
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
Cesc and Silva have much better surroundings than Ozil does infront of them that's a fact.
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Shut the fack up inventor . Ozil has been mostly disappointing and has to step up.
He gives up too easily in a tussle and will not shoot to save his life .
He shouldn't get a certain start and should earn the shirt.
posted on 10/8/15
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
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Costa is not an "absolute monster". He's a good, efficient striker. You're bigging him up to suit your argument. And no, Costa didn't miss a lot of the 2nd half of the campaign at all. He missed just a couple of matches. Cesc's loss of form had fack all to do with Costa. A big 2nd-half-of-season lull is something he has become notorious for.
You're the one who spent time talking about how Alexis is better than Hazard while disparaging Chelsea's other players and you're suddenly now making them out to be legends. Is that because Cesc shows up your delusion about Ozil?
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Highest IQ on this board.
Poor man's RGK.
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Disappointed in you there tbh. Used to respect your opinion but seems your obsession with Arsenal has turned you into a similar poster.
You spend all day on this board you clown and fully engage in the biggest articles from start to end every day lmao.
A supposed United fan
Your mind revolves around Wilshere's potential, Wenger managing us and how great you think we used to be.
You must be the United board version of Sheriff. Who's not a supporter of the club he claims but instead is obsessed with a rival club and will comment/praise them at will.
Fack me get a life. Pretty sure you just won a big game against a top 6 rival (team you'll be competing with this season) yet you're fussed about Giroud and Ozil on our board LMAO
What a pathetic clown you are
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 31 seconds ago
Costa is an absolute monster and Cesc's game was hugely enhanced by his presence funnily Cesc was non-evident 2nd half of the campaign a period Costa missed a lot of.
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Costa is not an "absolute monster". He's a good, efficient striker. You're bigging him up to suit your argument. And no, Costa didn't miss a lot of the 2nd half of the campaign at all. He missed just a couple of matches. Cesc's loss of form had fack all to do with Costa. A big 2nd-half-of-season lull is something he has become notorious for.
You're the one who spent time talking about how Alexis is better than Hazard while disparaging Chelsea's other players and you're suddenly now making them out to be legends. Is that because Cesc shows up your delusion about Ozil?
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Alexis is better than Hazard for me. Doesn't mean he suits a playmaker more given that he constantly cuts into central areas and often hogs the ball. Moot point. Next.
posted on 10/8/15
OP,
I bet you couldn't tell me the first thing about Ian Wright as a footballer if I asked you to. He was nothing like what would be considered top class by the standards of today. Giroud is legitamently a better forward that Wrighty was. Cringeworthy stuff.
posted on 10/8/15
Eriksen and Coutinho play better than Ozil in worse teams.
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I wouldn't know about playing better. Eriksen looked crap loads of times last season and his scoring record flatters him, cos he strikes a great ball. Coutinho had a great 2 months of form late in the season and many forgot how medicore he was before. But they've looked no worse than Ozil despite costing half Ozil's fee COMBINED.
posted on 10/8/15
"t have any respect from me on this board so kindly fack off as I won't be paying you much attention. Your level of understanding is incredibly low, stick to your limited repetitive topics slating Wenger and stating how we'll end up 4th like you always do you depressed mug"
haha what a sensitive soul
posted on 10/8/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 12 minutes ago
Wenger doesn't have the balls to bench Ozil even though it's best for the team, he plays every game and never gets subbed off.
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The worst was the Bayern game at the Emirates. Cazorla running rings round their midfield and easily the best player on the pitch. Chesney gets sent off and facking Cazorla is the one who gets sacrificed. Of course you could guarantee who would have the biggest stinker ambling about on the pitch as Bayern totally overran us.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA Cazorla running rings around Bayern. Are you sure? Wilshere did much more that day. If that was the case even Wenger wouldn't have been stupid enough to take the most effective player off in such a situation.
We recreating history now? Running rings around Bayern. Ozil was very poor that game.... see I can be honest without making up absolute boIIox!
posted on 10/8/15
Someone's wound up.
I came on this article because your rants are hilarious.
And my points were valid. Ozil is a bigger disappointment. As Ozil is as good as you are claiming surely you must be one of the most disappointed with how he's played?
You make too many excuses for him and then give off this ridiculous arrogance when people disagree with you.
posted on 10/8/15
comment by The Number 4 Shirt (U19487)
posted 53 seconds ago
OP,
I bet you couldn't tell me the first thing about Ian Wright as a footballer if I asked you to. He was nothing like what would be considered top class by the standards of today. Giroud is legitamently a better forward that Wrighty was. Cringeworthy stuff.
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Wright was a killer in front of goal. Bergkamp enjoyed him and I'm sure Ozil would have.
Giroud would never contribute to the club the same way Wrighty did, silly comment. Next.
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