Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
Not sure how you can say " good riddance" but continue to stick up for a money grabbing p. Iss taking c*** like Adebayor I completely agree Soldado has been a flop no doubt but the reason why he was popular was because he atleast showed a bit of passion and commitment for the supporters. He tried and actually cared about his own poor performances which certainly can't be said for your guy Adebayor
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
What load of rubbish you do talk at times Chicken!!!!!
Yes, Roberto has not been the prolific goal scorer we had hoped he would be. However he never sulked if benched, apparently trained as hard as anyone & gave 100% on the pitch. He was also very popular with our players too, and seemed happy at Spurs.
That is why he is still popular with the fans, as for being one of our biggest flops ever. He cost us £13m with add ons which were in the main never triggered.
In this day & age of money, it was not a fortune & we should recoup most of our money from this transfer.
I wish him well and hope that he is more successful in Spain.
Greaves, I agree he was popular at Spurs and with the supporters because he cared and actually showed a bit of passion. Adebayor on the other hand has been frozen out, not been give a squad number and don't give a flying f** about Spurs or the supporters and never has done.
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 31 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
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lazy....way off the mark there....think your saying things for the 'bite' now chicken.
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posted 33 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
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Chicken stop fishing mate
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I think most of chickens posts are there to wind people up to be honest
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default.
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here we go.
this chicken is a classic isn't he?
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
whatever the reasonable view is, chicken will ALWAYS take the opposite stance so that he will find an argument.
to call him lazy is just ridiculous. popular by default
after Arsey this guy is pretty much the worst poster on spurs ja606
I think we can all agree that chicken just seems to chat crap to pee people off
You've just proved my point, he was popular by default. You keep going on about character based perceptions rather than how good they were on the pitch.
Soldado didn't make many runs, he never gambled, he never looked for rebounds, and he hardly ever took a shot on sight - he was ridiculously lazy - but (same old same old on here) just because he has a nice facial expression and you have unfounded evidence that he supposedly worked hard, all is forgiven.
He was a terrible signing. How anyone can defend him is beyond belief. In fact, the only come back Don's got is to compare him to Ade.
Feel free, compare their records at our club - I bet I know which one will come out top. And I couldn't even care less if Ade ever plays another game for Spurs. My defence of Ade has always been that whilst he was at the club, being paid, and has the ability to score goals, we should have used him - I wouldn't want to invite either Soldado or Ade round for tea - they are just players to me - I don’t get emotionally involved with each one and want to be their friend.
Don’t take my word for it, ask as many neutrals as you like how good a signing they think he was...
OneHopefulFan
I think we can all agree that chicken just seems to chat crap to pee people off
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Provide me evidence to show that i'm wrong then...
He has shocking stats and he was totally out of his depth from his first game to his last.
I can count on one finger the amount of good games he's had.
Chronic,
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
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I challenge you to prove me wrong too.
What do you have in your locker to prove to me that Soldado was anything other than a poor signing?
No mudslinging, lets debate...
I'll start, how did you find his goal record with us?
Chicken, no one is arguing with you saying Soldado has been great though so I'm not sure where you are going with this mate. I think every Spurs fan can admit he was a flop but to call him " lazy" is such a load of b. Ulls hit. The guy was anything but lazy and what he lacked in the goal scoring department he made up for in atleast showing a bit of passion and commitment. He cared what the fans thought of him and that was why he was popular which again I will say is more that can be said for Adebayor.
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chronic,
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
=================
I challenge you to prove me wrong too.
What do you have in your locker to prove to me that Soldado was anything other than a poor signing?
No mudslinging, lets debate...
I'll start, how did you find his goal record with us?
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and this gentlemen is classic chicken.
chicken. where did I say that he wasn't a poor signing? I explicitly stated that it was nonsense to call him lazy, and then to say that he was popular by default. that was the only part of your comment that I responded too... as he has clearly been a bad signing.
despite this, you have then taken my reply as me arguing with you saying that he is a poor signing, which I am clearly not doing.
and thus you have given yourself more "ammunition" to continue arguing.
you debate like a child. you do not listen to responses of others, and when you do read, you either purposefully take it out of context, or you completely misunderstand it.
Don,
I don’t know why you're bringing Ade into this as some kind of defence mechanism. They are 2 totally different scenarios. Can we not just stay on the Soldado topic for now?
I'm judging Soldado on what his contribution was to the team - you're judging him on how much you like his personality and caring side.
His best contribution turned out to be his holding play - whereas we could have signed Kevin Davies to do that. As I said previously, he was too lazy to gamble on runs, too lazy to follow up shots/rebounds, he was just a lazy forward who was happy to have a touch on the edge of the box without doing anything with it.
Poor signing and I’m glad he's gone/going.
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 18 minutes ago
You've just proved my point, he was popular by default. You keep going on about character based perceptions rather than how good they were on the pitch.
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completely missing the point as usual
the fact that he tried his best to be a success at spurs, and seems a good guy, is a reason why people have quite a soft spot for him. despite this, we can all clearly see that he hasn't worked out, and therefore has to go down as a poor signing.
case closed. finito. game over. game set match.
come back when you have a point that makes sense
I am comparing to ADE because you are questioning his popularity and as chronic points out above you can clearly see why Soldado was a popular figure around the club and with the supporters. ADE on the other hand is the complete opposite and is not popular because he shows no commitment or passion to the cause. To right Soldado is getting a good sending off from Spurs supportes all over. He didn't work out and was a bad signing we can all admit that so you are arguing with yourself here mate.
Chronic,
you debate like a child. you do not listen to responses of others, and when you do read, you either purposefully take it out of context, or you completely misunderstand it.
====================
As i always say to you, after every time you try this one on , read back and see where the childish remarks start.
I posted one comment (which was about number 80 on the article) then you follow this with a load of mudslinging - you have no mature debating skills to evident your point - you just respond with some rubbish like:
“have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?".
Where have i not listened, taken anything out of context or misunderstood?
I am not blinded by facial expressions or popularity. My post was 100% football based. Yours on the other hand was predictably childish, off topic, and you are totally incapable to argue your point of view without attempting to belittle someone.
Prove me wrong that Soldado was not:
a) Cráp
b) An embarrassment
c) Lazy
Then we'll discuss it like adults.
Don,
I am comparing to ADE because you are questioning his popularity and as chronic points out above you can clearly see why Soldado was a popular figure around the club and with the supporters. ADE on the other hand is the complete opposite and is not popular because he shows no commitment or passion to the cause. To right Soldado is getting a good sending off from Spurs supportes all over. He didn't work out and was a bad signing we can all admit that so you are arguing with yourself here mate.
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So what you are saying then, apart from you being a tad over sentimental about him due to his apparent work rate (unfounded) and character (unfounded), you do actually agree that we are best rid of a player of this calibre?
You see, I post from a “footballing” point of view, whereas you want to post from a “care in the community” one.
THFC is a football club and business, it is not a social club for the disadvantaged. If it were, Chronic would have been signed up long ago...
chicken debating with you is an utter waste of time, and I don't intend to waste any more time doing so.
however, since you asked.... soldado is not crap at football. no one gets caps for spain if they are shiiiit.... no one bangs in 30 goals season after season in la liga if they are shiiiitt....
soldado didn't work at spurs for a number of reasons
1. he lost confidence when he missed some good chances and never regained it
2. he was not used to the prem
3. his style was not particularly suitable to the style that we use.
therefore he has been a poor signing.
an embarrassment? not really.... probably gonna lose about 2 or 3 million on him, depending on the fee we receive...... simply a case of a big money signing that didn't work... all clubs have them.
lazy... . its so stupid I wont even bother replying to it... everyone can see he tried hard to make it work at spurs, but it just didn't, for the reasons I have already outlined.
point 2 should be "he was not SUITED to the prem"
and to clarify on point 1..... the fact that he couldn't regain confidence shows that he didn't have the mentality needed.....
Yes chicken I agree we are better off without him as he didn't work out and didn't suit the league. I can also see why he was so popular because he tried every single game and showed commitment to the cause. He even spoke to the fans admitting how embarrassed he was for missing chances whilst the fans chanted his name. That's why Soldado was popular and if you can't actually see that then pointless even debating here. If Adebayor showed this sort of passion and commitment for once in his life then maybe he wouldn't be hated by just about every football clubs supporters he has been at.
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posted on 13/8/15
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
posted on 13/8/15
Not sure how you can say " good riddance" but continue to stick up for a money grabbing p. Iss taking c*** like Adebayor I completely agree Soldado has been a flop no doubt but the reason why he was popular was because he atleast showed a bit of passion and commitment for the supporters. He tried and actually cared about his own poor performances which certainly can't be said for your guy Adebayor
posted on 13/8/15
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
What load of rubbish you do talk at times Chicken!!!!!
Yes, Roberto has not been the prolific goal scorer we had hoped he would be. However he never sulked if benched, apparently trained as hard as anyone & gave 100% on the pitch. He was also very popular with our players too, and seemed happy at Spurs.
That is why he is still popular with the fans, as for being one of our biggest flops ever. He cost us £13m with add ons which were in the main never triggered.
In this day & age of money, it was not a fortune & we should recoup most of our money from this transfer.
I wish him well and hope that he is more successful in Spain.
posted on 13/8/15
Greaves, I agree he was popular at Spurs and with the supporters because he cared and actually showed a bit of passion. Adebayor on the other hand has been frozen out, not been give a squad number and don't give a flying f** about Spurs or the supporters and never has done.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 31 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
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lazy....way off the mark there....think your saying things for the 'bite' now chicken.
posted on 13/8/15
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posted on 13/8/15
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters..... (U1043)
posted 33 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default. Soldado is a prime example of how new signings get preferential treatment over existing players, at detriment to team results.
He will go down as one of our biggest flops ever. Embarrassing signing...
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Chicken stop fishing mate
posted on 13/8/15
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posted on 13/8/15
I think most of chickens posts are there to wind people up to be honest
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good riddance if true. Lazy player who seemed popular by default.
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here we go.
this chicken is a classic isn't he?
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
whatever the reasonable view is, chicken will ALWAYS take the opposite stance so that he will find an argument.
to call him lazy is just ridiculous. popular by default
after Arsey this guy is pretty much the worst poster on spurs ja606
posted on 13/8/15
I think we can all agree that chicken just seems to chat crap to pee people off
posted on 13/8/15
bit sad tbh!
posted on 13/8/15
You've just proved my point, he was popular by default. You keep going on about character based perceptions rather than how good they were on the pitch.
Soldado didn't make many runs, he never gambled, he never looked for rebounds, and he hardly ever took a shot on sight - he was ridiculously lazy - but (same old same old on here) just because he has a nice facial expression and you have unfounded evidence that he supposedly worked hard, all is forgiven.
He was a terrible signing. How anyone can defend him is beyond belief. In fact, the only come back Don's got is to compare him to Ade.
Feel free, compare their records at our club - I bet I know which one will come out top. And I couldn't even care less if Ade ever plays another game for Spurs. My defence of Ade has always been that whilst he was at the club, being paid, and has the ability to score goals, we should have used him - I wouldn't want to invite either Soldado or Ade round for tea - they are just players to me - I don’t get emotionally involved with each one and want to be their friend.
Don’t take my word for it, ask as many neutrals as you like how good a signing they think he was...
posted on 13/8/15
OneHopefulFan
I think we can all agree that chicken just seems to chat crap to pee people off
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Provide me evidence to show that i'm wrong then...
He has shocking stats and he was totally out of his depth from his first game to his last.
I can count on one finger the amount of good games he's had.
posted on 13/8/15
Chronic,
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
=================
I challenge you to prove me wrong too.
What do you have in your locker to prove to me that Soldado was anything other than a poor signing?
No mudslinging, lets debate...
I'll start, how did you find his goal record with us?
posted on 13/8/15
Chicken, no one is arguing with you saying Soldado has been great though so I'm not sure where you are going with this mate. I think every Spurs fan can admit he was a flop but to call him " lazy" is such a load of b. Ulls hit. The guy was anything but lazy and what he lacked in the goal scoring department he made up for in atleast showing a bit of passion and commitment. He cared what the fans thought of him and that was why he was popular which again I will say is more that can be said for Adebayor.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chronic,
have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?
=================
I challenge you to prove me wrong too.
What do you have in your locker to prove to me that Soldado was anything other than a poor signing?
No mudslinging, lets debate...
I'll start, how did you find his goal record with us?
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and this gentlemen is classic chicken.
chicken. where did I say that he wasn't a poor signing? I explicitly stated that it was nonsense to call him lazy, and then to say that he was popular by default. that was the only part of your comment that I responded too... as he has clearly been a bad signing.
despite this, you have then taken my reply as me arguing with you saying that he is a poor signing, which I am clearly not doing.
and thus you have given yourself more "ammunition" to continue arguing.
you debate like a child. you do not listen to responses of others, and when you do read, you either purposefully take it out of context, or you completely misunderstand it.
posted on 13/8/15
Don,
I don’t know why you're bringing Ade into this as some kind of defence mechanism. They are 2 totally different scenarios. Can we not just stay on the Soldado topic for now?
I'm judging Soldado on what his contribution was to the team - you're judging him on how much you like his personality and caring side.
His best contribution turned out to be his holding play - whereas we could have signed Kevin Davies to do that. As I said previously, he was too lazy to gamble on runs, too lazy to follow up shots/rebounds, he was just a lazy forward who was happy to have a touch on the edge of the box without doing anything with it.
Poor signing and I’m glad he's gone/going.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 18 minutes ago
You've just proved my point, he was popular by default. You keep going on about character based perceptions rather than how good they were on the pitch.
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completely missing the point as usual
the fact that he tried his best to be a success at spurs, and seems a good guy, is a reason why people have quite a soft spot for him. despite this, we can all clearly see that he hasn't worked out, and therefore has to go down as a poor signing.
case closed. finito. game over. game set match.
come back when you have a point that makes sense
posted on 13/8/15
I am comparing to ADE because you are questioning his popularity and as chronic points out above you can clearly see why Soldado was a popular figure around the club and with the supporters. ADE on the other hand is the complete opposite and is not popular because he shows no commitment or passion to the cause. To right Soldado is getting a good sending off from Spurs supportes all over. He didn't work out and was a bad signing we can all admit that so you are arguing with yourself here mate.
posted on 13/8/15
Chronic,
you debate like a child. you do not listen to responses of others, and when you do read, you either purposefully take it out of context, or you completely misunderstand it.
====================
As i always say to you, after every time you try this one on , read back and see where the childish remarks start.
I posted one comment (which was about number 80 on the article) then you follow this with a load of mudslinging - you have no mature debating skills to evident your point - you just respond with some rubbish like:
“have you ever heard a bigger load of bollox than what this guy comes out with?".
Where have i not listened, taken anything out of context or misunderstood?
I am not blinded by facial expressions or popularity. My post was 100% football based. Yours on the other hand was predictably childish, off topic, and you are totally incapable to argue your point of view without attempting to belittle someone.
Prove me wrong that Soldado was not:
a) Cráp
b) An embarrassment
c) Lazy
Then we'll discuss it like adults.
posted on 13/8/15
Don,
I am comparing to ADE because you are questioning his popularity and as chronic points out above you can clearly see why Soldado was a popular figure around the club and with the supporters. ADE on the other hand is the complete opposite and is not popular because he shows no commitment or passion to the cause. To right Soldado is getting a good sending off from Spurs supportes all over. He didn't work out and was a bad signing we can all admit that so you are arguing with yourself here mate.
==========================================
So what you are saying then, apart from you being a tad over sentimental about him due to his apparent work rate (unfounded) and character (unfounded), you do actually agree that we are best rid of a player of this calibre?
You see, I post from a “footballing” point of view, whereas you want to post from a “care in the community” one.
THFC is a football club and business, it is not a social club for the disadvantaged. If it were, Chronic would have been signed up long ago...
posted on 13/8/15
chicken debating with you is an utter waste of time, and I don't intend to waste any more time doing so.
however, since you asked.... soldado is not crap at football. no one gets caps for spain if they are shiiiit.... no one bangs in 30 goals season after season in la liga if they are shiiiitt....
soldado didn't work at spurs for a number of reasons
1. he lost confidence when he missed some good chances and never regained it
2. he was not used to the prem
3. his style was not particularly suitable to the style that we use.
therefore he has been a poor signing.
an embarrassment? not really.... probably gonna lose about 2 or 3 million on him, depending on the fee we receive...... simply a case of a big money signing that didn't work... all clubs have them.
lazy... . its so stupid I wont even bother replying to it... everyone can see he tried hard to make it work at spurs, but it just didn't, for the reasons I have already outlined.
posted on 13/8/15
point 2 should be "he was not SUITED to the prem"
and to clarify on point 1..... the fact that he couldn't regain confidence shows that he didn't have the mentality needed.....
posted on 13/8/15
Yes chicken I agree we are better off without him as he didn't work out and didn't suit the league. I can also see why he was so popular because he tried every single game and showed commitment to the cause. He even spoke to the fans admitting how embarrassed he was for missing chances whilst the fans chanted his name. That's why Soldado was popular and if you can't actually see that then pointless even debating here. If Adebayor showed this sort of passion and commitment for once in his life then maybe he wouldn't be hated by just about every football clubs supporters he has been at.
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