1. Yes
2. Any manger could do better with a team of world class players.
3. Klopp
1. I'm sure some manager out there could but then he'll want to make the side his own and players will be signed and sold. Short time might work out, long term may not. It's a gamble but one I wouldn't be making anytime soon.
2. Any manager would do better with better players. It's is them who have to perform after all.
3. There will be some out there who possibly could, could we get them in and in turn could they convince CL players to leave a CL team to play for one not in it?
Bring back Suarez, he was a better manager than Rodgers.
Pool...can I thank you for being worse than us this week...
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My feelings are that if we bring in another manager, he must be a known figure who can bring with them some world class talent. If not then we will continue to wander through the wilderness of ever changing players with 'potential'.
I think BR has until the end of the season and he MUST achieve this season.
I fear we will lose some of our brighter sparks very quickly if we switch to a manager who cannot convince the top class caliber player to choose to play for Liverpool.
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Rodgers can not attract high calibre players, Klopp I believe could.
Even when Liverpool got Champions League football thanks to Suarez, Rodgers could not attract a star name.
So, even if Rodgers somehow happens to have a good season in the league this year and get a Champions League place (although very doubtful) he has proven himself to be a complete liability in Europe, so surely we would just be better off with Klopp sooner than later.
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Do you remember all those star players that we used to sign when we were in the CL?
No, me either.
I'm not sure how we are all so confident that Klopp is up for coming to us? I know he seems the obvious fit, but it's all speculation.
1. Yes - Rodgers has lost his own football identity,
broken countless negative records and Yesterday was just the tip of the Iceberg... 1... I repeat 1 shot on target at home v.s west ham. Why is he still here, his teams still offer no penetration when we play 4:3:3/4:2:3:1 and when they try to be expansive they get caught out defensively.
2. A better manager (reputation/contacts wise) would also attract bigger/better players just look at Moyes v.s LVH
3. Klopp (I feel the board need to take responsibility and have a plan in place for cleaning up the mess that I feel is now inevitable with Rodgers
0-3 at home to west ham isnt a fluke. He hasnt a clue what he us doing, hes buying players that dont even fit into a system (whatever that is) and still playing muck like Lovren. Incredible.
There is no fixing this without getting rid of him, there is plenty of talent in that squad he just hasnt a clue how to play them.
Id take Pulis at this rate!!
And we attracted Torres Mascerano Reina after winning CL. Its depressing when u compare the quality of player rafa could attract compared to Rodgers.
Again coming back to the manager having the ability to bring in the top players. Rafa had to pull some strings / break the transfer record for Torres.
He also had a good reputation as a winning manager.
None of those were established world stars and we lost them. Nothing has changed bar Man City becoming billionaires.
We're about the fifth best club in every way. We'll finish fifth I reckon.
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So, that's it then. The end of the world isn't only nigh, it's on us. Time to join hands and panic. So, we get Jurgen, who I think is a very good manager. Not top class, but very good. What happens if/when he gets beaten?
Ding, ding, round 3? Trawl for (yet) another manager? Calm down girls, calm down. BR is probably feeling lower than whaleschiese, I'm sure he doesn't need to be told. Nor to the players who all let him and themselves down.
In the absence of immediate relegation staring us in the face, he will be with us until the end of the season at least.
JimmyTheRed
Jimmy - it's hardly a panic but It's hardly a shock ethier, we have been pants under Rodgers for sometime now. I think the biggest problem many of us (me included) see no reason to be optimistic. Off the top of my head i think crystal palace away in the cup was the last time we really turned a game round to win after a bad start. Yesterday at 0-2 down, who really had faith in us getting anything? If we have no reason to be optimistic as fans, then what are we doing?
Inever, I take your point, but, terrible loss though it was, we get beat once, badly admitted, and pessimism within the Red camp goes into overdrive. It seems we are one extreme or the other, no middle ground.
reading some of the posts, only after four games, still 7 out of 12 points - far better than last season - people are calling for his head.
To me, that's daft,pure and simple.
JimmyTheRed
I lean more to your side Jimmy. I do try to remain level headed.
The early season optimism always magnifies results, either positive or negative. It's bitterly disappointing that we get the 'result' at arsenal, we DO the hard part, and then fall at the next hurdle.
If we had looked good and lost I'd feel better, but we did look toothless. I think we were shocked.
However, I'd rather lose to West Ham and draw at Arsenal than vice versa. At least we shared the points with our direct rival.
We've well for one half this season... Yesterday was like last season all over again. It looks like Rodgers has learnt nothing to bring us forward. Id love to be optimistic but it would be blind! How on earth can anyone justify playing Lovren? For example. We didnt just lose we were thumped at home having spent 250 million to get to this point
Jimmy, it's not one bad performance, it's 3 out of 4, following on from last season
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posted on 30/8/15
1. Yes
2. Any manger could do better with a team of world class players.
3. Klopp
posted on 30/8/15
Exactly as above
posted on 30/8/15
1. I'm sure some manager out there could but then he'll want to make the side his own and players will be signed and sold. Short time might work out, long term may not. It's a gamble but one I wouldn't be making anytime soon.
2. Any manager would do better with better players. It's is them who have to perform after all.
3. There will be some out there who possibly could, could we get them in and in turn could they convince CL players to leave a CL team to play for one not in it?
posted on 30/8/15
Bring back Suarez, he was a better manager than Rodgers.
posted on 30/8/15
Pool...can I thank you for being worse than us this week...
posted on 30/8/15
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posted on 30/8/15
My feelings are that if we bring in another manager, he must be a known figure who can bring with them some world class talent. If not then we will continue to wander through the wilderness of ever changing players with 'potential'.
I think BR has until the end of the season and he MUST achieve this season.
I fear we will lose some of our brighter sparks very quickly if we switch to a manager who cannot convince the top class caliber player to choose to play for Liverpool.
posted on 30/8/15
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posted on 30/8/15
Rodgers can not attract high calibre players, Klopp I believe could.
Even when Liverpool got Champions League football thanks to Suarez, Rodgers could not attract a star name.
So, even if Rodgers somehow happens to have a good season in the league this year and get a Champions League place (although very doubtful) he has proven himself to be a complete liability in Europe, so surely we would just be better off with Klopp sooner than later.
posted on 30/8/15
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posted on 30/8/15
Do you remember all those star players that we used to sign when we were in the CL?
No, me either.
posted on 30/8/15
I'm not sure how we are all so confident that Klopp is up for coming to us? I know he seems the obvious fit, but it's all speculation.
posted on 30/8/15
1. Yes - Rodgers has lost his own football identity,
broken countless negative records and Yesterday was just the tip of the Iceberg... 1... I repeat 1 shot on target at home v.s west ham. Why is he still here, his teams still offer no penetration when we play 4:3:3/4:2:3:1 and when they try to be expansive they get caught out defensively.
2. A better manager (reputation/contacts wise) would also attract bigger/better players just look at Moyes v.s LVH
3. Klopp (I feel the board need to take responsibility and have a plan in place for cleaning up the mess that I feel is now inevitable with Rodgers
posted on 30/8/15
0-3 at home to west ham isnt a fluke. He hasnt a clue what he us doing, hes buying players that dont even fit into a system (whatever that is) and still playing muck like Lovren. Incredible.
There is no fixing this without getting rid of him, there is plenty of talent in that squad he just hasnt a clue how to play them.
Id take Pulis at this rate!!
posted on 30/8/15
And we attracted Torres Mascerano Reina after winning CL. Its depressing when u compare the quality of player rafa could attract compared to Rodgers.
posted on 30/8/15
Again coming back to the manager having the ability to bring in the top players. Rafa had to pull some strings / break the transfer record for Torres.
He also had a good reputation as a winning manager.
posted on 30/8/15
None of those were established world stars and we lost them. Nothing has changed bar Man City becoming billionaires.
We're about the fifth best club in every way. We'll finish fifth I reckon.
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posted on 30/8/15
So, that's it then. The end of the world isn't only nigh, it's on us. Time to join hands and panic. So, we get Jurgen, who I think is a very good manager. Not top class, but very good. What happens if/when he gets beaten?
Ding, ding, round 3? Trawl for (yet) another manager? Calm down girls, calm down. BR is probably feeling lower than whaleschiese, I'm sure he doesn't need to be told. Nor to the players who all let him and themselves down.
In the absence of immediate relegation staring us in the face, he will be with us until the end of the season at least.
JimmyTheRed
posted on 30/8/15
Jimmy - it's hardly a panic but It's hardly a shock ethier, we have been pants under Rodgers for sometime now. I think the biggest problem many of us (me included) see no reason to be optimistic. Off the top of my head i think crystal palace away in the cup was the last time we really turned a game round to win after a bad start. Yesterday at 0-2 down, who really had faith in us getting anything? If we have no reason to be optimistic as fans, then what are we doing?
posted on 30/8/15
Inever, I take your point, but, terrible loss though it was, we get beat once, badly admitted, and pessimism within the Red camp goes into overdrive. It seems we are one extreme or the other, no middle ground.
reading some of the posts, only after four games, still 7 out of 12 points - far better than last season - people are calling for his head.
To me, that's daft,pure and simple.
JimmyTheRed
posted on 30/8/15
I lean more to your side Jimmy. I do try to remain level headed.
The early season optimism always magnifies results, either positive or negative. It's bitterly disappointing that we get the 'result' at arsenal, we DO the hard part, and then fall at the next hurdle.
If we had looked good and lost I'd feel better, but we did look toothless. I think we were shocked.
However, I'd rather lose to West Ham and draw at Arsenal than vice versa. At least we shared the points with our direct rival.
posted on 30/8/15
We've well for one half this season... Yesterday was like last season all over again. It looks like Rodgers has learnt nothing to bring us forward. Id love to be optimistic but it would be blind! How on earth can anyone justify playing Lovren? For example. We didnt just lose we were thumped at home having spent 250 million to get to this point
posted on 30/8/15
Jimmy, it's not one bad performance, it's 3 out of 4, following on from last season
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