Not only Baines though,Baines natural successor Luke Garbutt must also be worried about his position if Brendan keeps up this performance level.
I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us, it's early days definitely but he is getting better and better everytime he steps on the pitch.
Was surprised Browning was taken off and not Funes Mori when we went to 3 at the back. I like generally what I've seen of Funes Mori so far but he looks like he is going to need time to properly bed in and was definitely at fault for the first goal last night.
comment by toffeegod (U1345)
posted 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us, it's early days definitely but he is getting better and better everytime he steps on the pitch.
Was surprised Browning was taken off and not Funes Mori when we went to 3 at the back. I like generally what I've seen of Funes Mori so far but he looks like he is going to need time to properly bed in and was definitely at fault for the first goal last night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was two team mistakes for me.
Mori did give the ball away to start with but Barry fluffed his chance to clear.
For the second it looked like Jags and Barkley were on the same player.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
"I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us"
----
Agreed toffee, long term he'll be our left side cb imo
Interesting to see how youthful and talented our defence is looking. Also important to note that they're all eligible for England
Browning - stones* - Galloway - Garbutt
*could be off soon in which case browning moves centrally.
We also have jonjoe kenny (rb), Pennington (cb) and that lad from Barnsley who can play cb (his names slipped my mind)
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
"I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us"
----
Agreed toffee, long term he'll be our left side cb imo
Interesting to see how youthful and talented our defence is looking. Also important to note that they're all eligible for England
Browning - stones* - Galloway - Garbutt
*could be off soon in which case browning moves centrally.
We also have jonjoe kenny (rb), Pennington (cb) and that lad from Barnsley who can play cb (his names slipped my mind)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Holgate came from Barnley and is on 5k a week so he must be a prospect!
But is Stones going to leave soon, we stood our ground and we stand to only lose £4m. But Galloway, Stones and Browning all look to be future CB and are learning from Jags all the time.
Looks good for a manager who can't coach defence
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So he will leave this coming summer.....or the summer after
Pundits and the media claimed he would leave in the last window. So I believe club and manager that he is not for sale
So we will only lose our fee to Barnsley.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So he will leave this coming summer.....or the summer after
Pundits and the media claimed he would leave in the last window. So I believe club and manager that he is not for sale
So we will only lose our fee to Barnsley.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wasn't it mentioned that the prime reason we didn't sell Stones was down to the lateness of the bid that Chelsea put in thus leaving Everton not enough time to find an adequate replacement.
It was a great coup to turn away Chelsea and their millions,but we would do well to keep him in transfer windows to come.Being a realist if he has a good season he will be hard to keep hold of,if he plays for England and plays well in the Euro's then it's going to be damned hard to keep him
I think the club achieved its aim in not selling to Chelsea during the last window and I think we're good for this season. However, next summer, if a club comes to us early in the window with a serious offer I can see us negotiating and selling. If nothing else I am not aware that Stones has rescinded his transfer request so the belief has to be he wants to move onto a title contender at some point and I don't think the economics of the club can stand to lose that potential £30m+ next summer.
The important thing to look for is what happens with his contract. Currently he is on a reported £30k a week with 4 seasons remaining, and clearly he should be on more in relation to others at the club. So, will he sign a new deal with us that bumps it up to parity with the higher owners? If he does that then he will be tying himself in for a longer period of time which then rules out an option of sitting out his contract and going somewhere on a free.
Definitely not a simple case of the club saying he is not for sale and so that is it in my opinion, if nothing else didn't they say we won't be selling him in this window? Thus giving them the latitude to sell at a later date possibly?
He can put in as many transfer requests as he likes, the club is within its rights to reject them as they did.
We could accept an offer and agree to sell the player, but that doesn't mean he will want to leave for that club either. It is very complicated, however Woods, Bill and Martinez have stood firm and have told everyone who wants to listen that he is not for sale
We'd all like Stones to stay but unless we finish in the top 4, maybe top 3 this season and get CL football he is off.
comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
We'd all like Stones to stay but unless we finish in the top 4, maybe top 3 this season and get CL football he is off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is off?
Only if the club wish to sell him and he agrees to the move. But as his transfer request was rejected, I would expect the same stance again from the club come January and next summer.
You're a confident man, I wish I could be as well but I strongly suspect he would be off for a decent price next summer if we're not having a tilt at the CL next season or we've picked up a trophy.
comment by toffeegod (U1345)
posted 20 minutes ago
You're a confident man, I wish I could be as well but I strongly suspect he would be off for a decent price next summer if we're not having a tilt at the CL next season or we've picked up a trophy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club made a stance after the manager had sai he was not for sale and under contract. Now the board can't go back on this stance and keep the fans on side if they fold in January/summer
They were very specific though, they said Stones is not for sale in this window, Martinez even expanded on why when he said it was too late in the window when they received the last bid and Stones put in the transfer window. It is not that much of an about face to sell him next summer given that sadly I think, but we shall have to wait and see.
the way the English teams in doing europe so far I would say we will have to finish top 3 to see Stones in an Everton shirt past this season
I said all summer stones wouldn't be off this year.
The reason being this season we can bed in the likes of Galloway, browning and Mori and so if/when he does go we won't even need to buy to replace him.
Personally I think after this season and the euros unless we finish in a champions league place he will want to go. If he does fair enough to him, he deserves to play at that level.
The advantage we have now is that clubs know we won't sell cheap and we won't sell late. Unless a high bid (around £40-45m) comes in he won't be going imo.
I can't see us selling in January for the same reasons martinez stated at the end of this window. I.E too late, no replacements etc.
Page 1 of 1
First
Previous
1
Next
Latest
Sign in if you want to comment
Brendan's review...
Page 1 of 1
posted on 29/9/15
Not only Baines though,Baines natural successor Luke Garbutt must also be worried about his position if Brendan keeps up this performance level.
posted on 29/9/15
I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us, it's early days definitely but he is getting better and better everytime he steps on the pitch.
Was surprised Browning was taken off and not Funes Mori when we went to 3 at the back. I like generally what I've seen of Funes Mori so far but he looks like he is going to need time to properly bed in and was definitely at fault for the first goal last night.
posted on 29/9/15
comment by toffeegod (U1345)
posted 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us, it's early days definitely but he is getting better and better everytime he steps on the pitch.
Was surprised Browning was taken off and not Funes Mori when we went to 3 at the back. I like generally what I've seen of Funes Mori so far but he looks like he is going to need time to properly bed in and was definitely at fault for the first goal last night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was two team mistakes for me.
Mori did give the ball away to start with but Barry fluffed his chance to clear.
For the second it looked like Jags and Barkley were on the same player.
posted on 29/9/15
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 29/9/15
"I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us"
----
Agreed toffee, long term he'll be our left side cb imo
Interesting to see how youthful and talented our defence is looking. Also important to note that they're all eligible for England
Browning - stones* - Galloway - Garbutt
*could be off soon in which case browning moves centrally.
We also have jonjoe kenny (rb), Pennington (cb) and that lad from Barnsley who can play cb (his names slipped my mind)
posted on 29/9/15
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
"I still think in time Galloway will move across to CB, but as long as we keep playing him I'll be happy. He is becoming immense for us"
----
Agreed toffee, long term he'll be our left side cb imo
Interesting to see how youthful and talented our defence is looking. Also important to note that they're all eligible for England
Browning - stones* - Galloway - Garbutt
*could be off soon in which case browning moves centrally.
We also have jonjoe kenny (rb), Pennington (cb) and that lad from Barnsley who can play cb (his names slipped my mind)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Holgate came from Barnley and is on 5k a week so he must be a prospect!
But is Stones going to leave soon, we stood our ground and we stand to only lose £4m. But Galloway, Stones and Browning all look to be future CB and are learning from Jags all the time.
Looks good for a manager who can't coach defence
posted on 29/9/15
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
posted on 30/9/15
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So he will leave this coming summer.....or the summer after
Pundits and the media claimed he would leave in the last window. So I believe club and manager that he is not for sale
So we will only lose our fee to Barnsley.
posted on 30/9/15
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Heads shoulders knees John Stones, knees John Stones (U9760)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
"We stand to only lose £4m"
What're you on about there Arouna?
Stones has 4 years left on his contract. We kept him this summer but I can see him going in the summer or the one after that. He certainly won't be running it down and leaving on a free imo
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So he will leave this coming summer.....or the summer after
Pundits and the media claimed he would leave in the last window. So I believe club and manager that he is not for sale
So we will only lose our fee to Barnsley.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wasn't it mentioned that the prime reason we didn't sell Stones was down to the lateness of the bid that Chelsea put in thus leaving Everton not enough time to find an adequate replacement.
It was a great coup to turn away Chelsea and their millions,but we would do well to keep him in transfer windows to come.Being a realist if he has a good season he will be hard to keep hold of,if he plays for England and plays well in the Euro's then it's going to be damned hard to keep him
posted on 30/9/15
I think the club achieved its aim in not selling to Chelsea during the last window and I think we're good for this season. However, next summer, if a club comes to us early in the window with a serious offer I can see us negotiating and selling. If nothing else I am not aware that Stones has rescinded his transfer request so the belief has to be he wants to move onto a title contender at some point and I don't think the economics of the club can stand to lose that potential £30m+ next summer.
The important thing to look for is what happens with his contract. Currently he is on a reported £30k a week with 4 seasons remaining, and clearly he should be on more in relation to others at the club. So, will he sign a new deal with us that bumps it up to parity with the higher owners? If he does that then he will be tying himself in for a longer period of time which then rules out an option of sitting out his contract and going somewhere on a free.
Definitely not a simple case of the club saying he is not for sale and so that is it in my opinion, if nothing else didn't they say we won't be selling him in this window? Thus giving them the latitude to sell at a later date possibly?
posted on 30/9/15
He can put in as many transfer requests as he likes, the club is within its rights to reject them as they did.
We could accept an offer and agree to sell the player, but that doesn't mean he will want to leave for that club either. It is very complicated, however Woods, Bill and Martinez have stood firm and have told everyone who wants to listen that he is not for sale
posted on 30/9/15
We'd all like Stones to stay but unless we finish in the top 4, maybe top 3 this season and get CL football he is off.
posted on 30/9/15
comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
We'd all like Stones to stay but unless we finish in the top 4, maybe top 3 this season and get CL football he is off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is off?
Only if the club wish to sell him and he agrees to the move. But as his transfer request was rejected, I would expect the same stance again from the club come January and next summer.
posted on 30/9/15
You're a confident man, I wish I could be as well but I strongly suspect he would be off for a decent price next summer if we're not having a tilt at the CL next season or we've picked up a trophy.
posted on 30/9/15
comment by toffeegod (U1345)
posted 20 minutes ago
You're a confident man, I wish I could be as well but I strongly suspect he would be off for a decent price next summer if we're not having a tilt at the CL next season or we've picked up a trophy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club made a stance after the manager had sai he was not for sale and under contract. Now the board can't go back on this stance and keep the fans on side if they fold in January/summer
posted on 30/9/15
They were very specific though, they said Stones is not for sale in this window, Martinez even expanded on why when he said it was too late in the window when they received the last bid and Stones put in the transfer window. It is not that much of an about face to sell him next summer given that sadly I think, but we shall have to wait and see.
posted on 30/9/15
the way the English teams in doing europe so far I would say we will have to finish top 3 to see Stones in an Everton shirt past this season
posted on 30/9/15
I said all summer stones wouldn't be off this year.
The reason being this season we can bed in the likes of Galloway, browning and Mori and so if/when he does go we won't even need to buy to replace him.
Personally I think after this season and the euros unless we finish in a champions league place he will want to go. If he does fair enough to him, he deserves to play at that level.
The advantage we have now is that clubs know we won't sell cheap and we won't sell late. Unless a high bid (around £40-45m) comes in he won't be going imo.
I can't see us selling in January for the same reasons martinez stated at the end of this window. I.E too late, no replacements etc.
Page 1 of 1