Again I agree but the owner wont give him the chances he probably deserves as he doesnt want to lose money.

Pots of it

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If Sherwood does go, Moyes would be the best possible appointment for Villa.

Whatever he wants, in terms of money, he should be given it.

According to, I think, the Telegraph, Sherwood is "about to wield the axe" to save his job. Reckons, so it is alleged, that the foreign recruits are mainly not good enough, and that they were forced on him when there were better experienced players like Lennon available. The return of N'Zogbia's been rumoured.

IF that's true, I can't wait for him to go. This summer's signings are the best crop we've had for some time.

I believe our performances haven't been that bad. We've lost by the odd goal, stupid goals given away by defensive errors, at least some by "experienced" Lescott. We need to take the pluses from those performances and build on them. We are NOT that bad. If Sherwood can't/won't do it then get rid.

I like our squad. We need a manager who can sort out the defence; Richards and Clark were forming a good CB team, and it shouldn't have been broken up. I believe Parks acts as defensive as well as goalkeeping coach; maybe that's part of the problem.

What I want to see in the next two matches are good team performances; we need to compete. If we really do that and it goes against us, that's a pity but not a disaster. But if we put in a clueless performance then there's only one answer. Change.

I'd go for Laudrup, because I think the players suit his style.

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I read that too.

Bizarre. Sherwood wants to move out the players that everyone else wants to see in. And he wants to fill the first XI with the 'old pros'.

But isnt it those 'old pros' (Lescott, Agbonlahor, NZogbia and a few others) that have been letting the team down???

A friend of mine is a coach here in Sweden in the Superettan (equivalent of the Championship)...

I was talking to him over a beer about Villa as, like most people in Europe, he watches the PL very closely.

He reckons Rodgers would be the best manager for Villa (I dont like Rodgers myself) as he sees Villas biggest problem as not getting the ball back quickly enough and not having enough possession.

He might have a point as the new players are all young and fit - apart from Gestede who makes Heskey look mobile - so yes, maybe Rodgers could make them play more to their strengths? And maybe Sherwood has lost their trust? The players no longer think he knows what he is doing.

Next few games will see....

Think it's less the players losing trust in Tim than Tim appearing to lose confidence in the players.

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But... there's one tiny little factor in Gestede's favour. He scores goals! And it's not just headers from corners. Anything coming in from the wings is fodder for him. And he's better with his feet than people give him credit for. Not the fastest over distance I grant you that, but he has the striker's gift of reacting fast over short distances; he nearly scored a great volley from a Hutton cross against Liverpool. Let's face it, he was the only reason we were in the game at Liverpool.

Gestede worries defences stiff, IF we're attacking well enough to feed him decent crosses, and because of that he creates options in attack. Does Gabby do the same? Don't make me laugh.

I think Gestede has potential, and I wouldn't rule out Rodgers or Laudrup making use of it. I think Rodgers mind find him better to work with than Benteke; Benteke expects opportunities to be handed to him on a plate, Gestede will have a go at anything going.

In reality then Sherwood has already been fired and he has two games to change Randy Lerners mind.

The bottom line is that Brendan Rodgers is now available and he is a better manager than Sherwood or Moyes. I can see BR taking the job until the end of the season initially with a view to a longer term contract.

That would suit Randy Lerner with the club being up for sale, and it would probably work better for Rodgers with his ego still bruised.

I think this deal might have already been done.

I think you would fly under Brendan Rodgers. Don't believe the Suarez hype at LFC. The bloke got the best out of Suarez and did an outstanding job , and was genuinely unlucky. He came closer to winning the league than any other Liverpool manager since Kenny Dalglish in 1990, and his team played football comparable if not better than Kenny's 87,88 teams.

If you want Moyes over Rodgers you need your heads examining.

M

Rodgers !!! he will finish the job Sherwood started and take you down

He was on my return flight last night as well. I sat next to him while we waited for the gate to open. I asked him if he was getting away from the media and his reply 'something like that'. Not sure if he was brushing me off.

His Mrs has a great pair on her

Rodgers over Moyes behave.

I think Moyes would do well at Villa, you're in the same situ we were in when he took over us.

He turned us into seasoned Euro campaigners on a limited budget and could really find a player!

Not sure how things would work with your current owner though? He's he still wanting to sell? Which doesn't make the manager's job secure

I don't think Sherwood is marked down for sacking, yet. His latest team selections and tactics have been a bit puzzling, although they worked against Blues; however, no manager always gets it right, and all managers do things that we can't understand but maybe there is a reason behind it.

I think the tipping point comes if the powers that be think that progress has come to a halt, and there's no way forwards with Tim. They may of course be reaching that point, and Fox, unlike the past few years, will have a Plan B. But it's also possible that they think Tim is still in control of the situation and that the underneath things are going in the right direction, even if there are problems.

There may be something in the rumours or there may not. One thing in Tim's favour is that we haven't yet had a thrashing, and the players seem keen to get on with it. Murphy said on MOTD about the Liverpool match that it must send any manager mad to see the determination his team was showing, only to throw the match away through stupid individual error (Lescott he was thinking of you).

A poor performance in the next two matches will probably be the tipping point. Good performances may not even if we don't win.

I am of course probably completely wrong; it may all be done and dusted

comment by L4 4EL Bluenose (U5487)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
Rodgers over Moyesbehave.

I think Moyes would do well at Villa, you're in the same situ we were in when he took over us.

He turned us into seasoned Euro campaigners on a limited budget and could really find a player!

Not sure how things would work with your current owner though? He's he still wanting to sell? Which doesn't make the manager's job secure
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Do you honestly believe Moyes is a better manager than Rodgers?

Moyes won nothing, did nothing, in over ten years in the premiere league, and he lasted how long at United?

Now he is on the verge of being sacked again.

Say what you want about Rodgers, but he has achieved a lot more in four years of management than what Moyes has in over a decade.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it's blinkered and un educated.

Moyes has proved that he can't handle pressure, and there will be pressure at Villa.

Rodgers has proved that he can handle pressure, and baring one slip he would have won the league.

How's that top four finish looking?

M

Sorry, can't find where you tell us what Rodgers achieved.

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posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by L4 4EL Bluenose (U5487)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
Rodgers over Moyesbehave.

I think Moyes would do well at Villa, you're in the same situ we were in when he took over us.

He turned us into seasoned Euro campaigners on a limited budget and could really find a player!

Not sure how things would work with your current owner though? He's he still wanting to sell? Which doesn't make the manager's job secure
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Do you honestly believe Moyes is a better manager than Rodgers?

Moyes won nothing, did nothing, in over ten years in the premiere league, and he lasted how long at United?

Now he is on the verge of being sacked again.

Say what you want about Rodgers, but he has achieved a lot more in four years of management than what Moyes has in over a decade.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it's blinkered and un educated.

Moyes has proved that he can't handle pressure, and there will be pressure at Villa.

Rodgers has proved that he can handle pressure, and baring one slip he would have won the league.

How's that top four finish looking?

M
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Yes I do believe Moyes is a better manager than Rodgers and here’s a few things to prove why.

You say Moyes won nothing, correct, what exactly did Rodgers win? Don’t even bother to mention promotion, it was a side that was already built, same as Moyes when he won the Charity Shield.

What has Rodgers achieved more than Moyes exactly? Moyes got us to 4th with the likes of Marcus Bent, Gary Naysmith, Pistone, Kevin Kilbane and James McFadden on a limited budget and turned us into regular European contenders from relegation fodder when he took over.

You say Moyes can’t handle pressure and bring Man United into it, come on, that was a poisoned chalice for whoever took over and he wasn’t given anywhere near the funds LVG has! Aston Villa are in the same position where we were in back in 2002 and he turned our fortunes around, just like he could do at Villa.

You say Rodgers can handle pressure? Hmmmmmm How did Rodgers cope at Reading? Oh yes, he left by ‘mutual agreement’ because they were near bottom of the league in the Championship FFS!! Oh and plenty of Reds I know blame Rodgers for losing the title against Palace by going for more goals at 3-0 instead of keeping what you had, they don’t blame it on the slip.

I do believe Moyes also finished above Rodgers too on limited resources!

To quote you, “You are entitled to your opinion, but it's blinkered and un educated.”

How’s top 4 looking? We’re doing OK at the minute thanks for asking, yourselves?

I agree with L4.

I think Moyes would be perfect for Villa. I am not saying Rodgers didn't do a good job at Liverpool, but I think it would be a risk Villa cannot take.

Think both Moyes and Rodgers would be OK, without either being perfect. Both have done reasonably well, but could they have done better? Moyes rarely seemed to trouble the top teams. Rodgers had Liverpool playing bold adventurous football when Suarez was there but didn't quite have the answers when he went.

I haven't yet given up on Tim; if things click we could yet have a successful team. There are some good things there. We looked to be deservedly beating Leicester with 18 minutes to go and that would have been an outstanding result; I'm still sick at the 3 goals then conceded. Question is, is his tinkering a necessary process to evolve a winning team, or clueless floundering around? I don't know.

If he went I'd add Laudrup to the shortlist. Strikes me his approach is a very good fit for the players we bought over the summer.