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posted on 28/10/15

Eva and Fearn:
I’ll write more about Eva as she’s gone, while Fearn is still here (wherever he actually is… seriously where is he?)

First things first, the incident earlier in the season made me lose a lot of respect, as I had always believed that his "us against the world mentality" included Chelsea as a whole. But, frankly, some people are expendable just because he’s got anger issues. This shook the foundations, but I soldiered on. Publicly berating your own staff at the time of the match and the interview is just low. Especially when they were just doing their job. You know how this saga could have gone away? An apology by Jose if/when he realized they had been called on twice by the referee when Hazard asked for a trainer. But no, he stuck to his guns and now a valued member of the staff (She’d been here since 2009… that’s a longer term than Jose mk1 + mk2 combined!) is no longer with us. From her interactions with the players, it seems like a cherished member of the team is gone.

Chelsea really are pioneers in this regard. Not only were we the only big club to have a female doctor, but we also have a prominent female board member and a black man (I don’t know how to be PC about this) in a very important position. True diversity and integration. And we let one third of that go due to ego. Sure, Eva might not be as important to the team as Marina or Emenalo, but she part of Chelsea. One of us. Despicable to have her thrown under the bus.

Now it would be mightily unjust to not mention Fearn who was not only the co-recipient of the abuse on the touchline but also called "naïve" [maybe now he’ll call them "weak and naive" instead] later in the press conference. What has happened to him? We don’t know… unlike Eva who has had a lot written about her… everyone’s just ignored the man. Still hope he’s there and will be on the pitch someday doing what he does best.

To me a clear case of the juniors getting crushed for the arrogance of the senior.

posted on 28/10/15

Player management:
Secondly, I’d always thought of Mourinho as the man who criticises you to challenge you to be better. Remember the interview where he said he didn’t know Eto’o’s age or something, which he later said were "light hearted" and instead got mad at the media for filming a private conversation. I got pretty angry at that… it showed a side of Mourinho I didn’t want to see as he consistently threw his strikers under the bus. Sure they weren’t world beaters, but that was just sh***y man. This wasn’t the I want them to improve thing, it was these guys are sh**. Funnily enough, Eto’o came here because Jose wanted him in the first place. The other two may not have been his signings, but he was. Also, instead of apologising publicly , which frankly, when has the man ever done that, he got mad that he got filmed. Instead, he neither retracted the statements, nor apologized. We all know how Eto’o felt about that with his celebration and when he called Jose a fool after he left.

This is to me is not Jose Mourinho, this was supposedly the best man-manager in the world and in three years here what all has he done? He fell out with Eto’o who still remained professional, publicly three all his strikers under the bus, had public spats with Lukaku that went back on forth, has public spats with Kdb which have gone back and forth, he even managed to make Mata angry which was just funny. Earlier, even players who left his management or were sold by him would speak highly of the man. Now KdB publicly said he doesn’t want to work with him, Mata said they had no relationship at all,

It’s the 3rd year, and I don’t see it happening with the man. I really wanted to believe all of those things he’s said before, and stupidly hoped every single time, but you know how they’ve all turned out.

Apparently one of Jose’s strong suits.

posted on 28/10/15

The untouchables:

What I’ve felt at Chelsea is a hierarchy really, earlier whenever we used to play badly Oscar was taken off, then it became Willian, whereas some players will just never get substituted. Against Palace he subbed off Azpi, not to go 3 at the back, but to use Kenedy at LB. Whereas anyone who saw that game could tell you Ivanovic was living a nightmare. If we’re doing badly, everyone except Cesc in that midfield is getting pulled. Just two of Mourinho’s blind spots.
Just a slightly interesting smaller thing that while not a big factor in itself, makes my skin boil.

Things I’ve largely ignored:
I’ve ignored all other flaws (others might just call them facets), even if I don’t like them, I’ve ignored the style of football or the identity with him as frankly that doesn’t matter that highly to me. I didn’t care that much about the switching of managers, other than it didn’t give them enough time to mold the club in their identity. I’ve largely ignored the negative atmosphere around the club, as frankly when have Chelsea ever had a positive reception outside their own fanbase. Trophies aren’t that high on my list as well, funnily enough.

Personally speaking, I don’t like Jose:
Yes, let me get it out in the open. I respect the man’s huge achievements, but not only is he a sore loser. But he comes across as a mean bully. In many cases he throws out cheap personal insults instead of keeping it professional. I can call your work bad without calling you an idiot, now, can I? And he always seems to perk up more when he’s doing well.

posted on 28/10/15

Just from memory:
Calling Benitez "fat" and telling her wife that if she took care of his diet she wouldn’t have less time to take digs at Jose (Casual sexism and fat shaming – a double whammy), calling Ranieri a "loser", saying Pep is "bald because he does not enjoy football", calling Wenger a "voyeur" for which he first refused to apologise, and then said he’d only apologise if Wenger does too, poked Vilanova in the eye… and these are just the things I remember. Atleast specialist in failure was a "professional" dig.

Had he been provoked in some of them, sure. But, he’s the one who made is personal every single time. No, I won’t tell Benitez he did a sh** job and get fired from Inter in 6 months!!!, I’ll tell him he’s FAT! Almost feels like when someone really really hurts you, and you have to say the worst thing to make him feel bad. Or when you ego is really fragile… hey oh.

When Ancelotti starts writing bad things about you in his autobiography, you know you’ve done some sh**. Make fun of achievements Jose, god knows you have lots of them. Don’t sink to this level. I don’t like my manager being a school kid.

So while he is a sore loser, he’s not very courteous when winning either. Sure, it’s not a trait I absolutely want in a manager, but how many other managers do you see piling on Jose’s misery right now? Capello? That’s it. And Jose took return dig at him as well.

Ancelotti, Hughes etc etc have all shown words of support. Jose is going through the worst phase of his life, and none of these other managers are speaking a peep about him. Would Jose show them the same courtesy? Wenger’s winning right now and Jose’s losing, which one of the two is taking digs at the other?

Sure, Mourinho might be amazing as man away from the media, and most likely is – And while I don’t mind war of words once in a while. Hell, they’re fun. But as we say on WAGNH, even when in an argument, you shouldn’t get personal, man. Not cool.

So while this isn’t a huge deal in and of itself, it becomes a factor when combined with everything else.

posted on 28/10/15

That brings us to the big deal: Youth
Jose talks a big game. And I mean he talks a huge game.
- "If these players are England nationals, you can blame me"
- "Academy Day" Where RLC plays 8 mins in a dead rubber match. Embarrassing. Not even a game of significance, and you can’t give a kid a run-out after calling it Academy day and having him sit with you in the press conference. Talking a big game, delivering zilch.
- Ake didn’t feature even after the only dedicated DM’s got injured. Why? Big match, can’t afford.
to lose. Good enough to start for Rafa in Europa at the age of 17 (A competition Rafa was really trying hard to win, I might add). Good enough to start for Watford at Lb though, which isn’t even his best position. But not good enough to get a single PL minute for us.
- Said at the start of the season RLC is ready – only PL minutes he got were 19 when we were chasing against Palace.
- Again says RLC will get a run of games: Starts one in the next 4.
- Last season only league game RLC even appeared in were after the title was won.
- Neither Bertrand and Kenedy got a start yesterday, but boy did they show how not ready the kids really are.
- We’ve had the best academy in the country for the last five years (maybe even Europe), what do we have to show for it? Nothing.
- How long before the players get sick of waiting for a chance? Leave and end up at a good club, or worse at one of our rivals?

The only thing, and I mean the only thing, that I hate more than unchecked ego and arrogance, is outright lies. If he doesn’t plan to start them/play them, don’t play the big game. Don’t work the media and fans by telling us about the future of the club with these kids. Don’t give us dreams, that you cannot or worse are afraid of turning into reality. And when I mean us, I really mean we, as I don’t know how others feel. Ever heard "don’t lie" by Black Eyed Peas… "And I lie and I lie and I lie and I don’t know who I am" or something…

Well he lies and he lies, and I don’t know who he is anymore.

Ryan Bertrand recently said that "Every time you played (for Chelsea) it felt like you were having an audition." Plus he said "I know I should still be at Chelsea and I should still be playing but it is no drama. " Which is frankly true, there isn’t a run of games for any kid over here. Run of games requires trust from the manager, which our manager is frankly incapable of giving to any kid. Even he says they will get a run of games (RLC) what happens? They start 1 game out of four and even in that game get hooked at HT… and not because they were playing badly.

I don’t care much about our current results, about the playing style etc etc, if he’d shown he was looking at the long term. And by actions, not words. Instead all his actions show him to be the same man he always was. Same man who is for the here and now. We want him to build a future for us, and he can’t even think long term.

Yesterday (not the result) was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. He does not have trust in some others, and I don’t have trust in him anymore. I can support a manager I don’t respect, but I can’t support one I don’t trust and respect.

posted on 28/10/15

Stability:
While stability is all well and good, but if no youth players come through, if the club is always mired in controversy and becomes a joke – like a tin foiled idiot who keeps calling campaign against the world – if the club isn’t even over-performing expectations, then that is stability only in letter and in spirit.

Pressure will always be there at Chelsea. Of trophies, of results, winning. But if the kids can’t even play when we’re winning (last year) and can’t even play when we’re losing (this year), so just when are they going to play? Jose had got the backing the board, the club – and it is a public backing that is unprecedented – and still can’t find it in himself to play kids… then what can I say.

You know what – I’ll go ahead and say it today. Why does any manager not play kids? Because results are much more unpredictable with them. In developing them, you have good games and bad games much more frequently than with a player who is developed (Ramires being the exception to the rule). And who doesn’t want to do that? Someone who is very afraid of losing, very afraid of failure. Someone used a term and was branded a "Specialist in failure", today I’d like to borrow that line "Maybe he’s afraid of losing".

But Jose dear, the ones who try and fail aren’t the real failures in my book. The ones who are failures are the ones who were so afraid they didn’t even try.
Many people might want Jose gone for the results, but they are frankly secondary to me.

Conclusion: Stupid analogy time!

Supporting Jose is like living with a man/woman who you have dreams of spending your life together with and he says he only lives "day-to-day".

Or an even worse analogy, supporting Jose is like waiting for the guy to commit (i.e. start playing youth) and you keep waiting, and waiting. But the commitment only comes in words and not actions. After a while, you have to give up on the relationship for your own happiness. After a while, the words are not soothing and only a painful lie that hurts.

The good thing for Jose is that he has the chance to undo most of the hurt he’s causing. He can get back atleast a part of my support (lol like he cares) if he stops being so fearful – apologises to the right people – and not let his ego dictate right and wrong etc.

The bad thing for Jose (again, lol like he cares) is that even after wounds heal, the scars remain.

posted on 28/10/15

tl;dr

posted on 28/10/15

Did you write all that?

It's just too much and all speculation

Is it your uni dissertation?

posted on 28/10/15

comment by Ronny Van Banterous - voted #1 Positive Ja606 member 2013 (U5996)
posted 19 seconds ago
Did you write all that?

It's just too much and all speculation

Is it your uni dissertation?
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No, I didn't - someone who quite clearly has too much time on their hands did

Anyways, it's in sections so you can read each post individually

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 28/10/15

OP so you have some issues with José but want him to stay as manager.

Could have saved you about 10,000 words

posted on 28/10/15

Jose is a bully, plays boring football, I support Chelsea, not Jose.

Jose go now

posted on 29/10/15

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comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 29/10/15

Can't find much to disagree with above observations.
So we have a spoilt brat of a manager, but he's our spoilt brat of a manager. Make no mistake he has been living off his reputation. A reputation built on success .
If he wants to keep his supporters on board he'd better win a few games and manage the players, after all thats what he is paid to do.

posted on 29/10/15

Interested reading.

posted on 29/10/15

Interestingly, it seems to me that José is errorneosly ignoring the youths who are more likely to get us out of the current dilemma. The youths can play their hearts out to win and prove a point, he should know that. The senior players have nothing to lose really, they might just be waiting for the club to sack him so a new manager can bring back Eva and restore the joy and love @cfc.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/10/15

We all know José is an egomaniac and we're all aware of the many flaws in Jose's very outspoken character. But the thing is we've been well aware of all this for years and we were well aware of this before he returned as Chelsea manager.

People were happy to put up with these character traits and flaws when we're winning but when things aren't going so well it all becomes about Jose's character it seems.

posted on 29/10/15

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
We all know José is an egomaniac and we're all aware of the many flaws in Jose's very outspoken character. But the thing is we've been well aware of all this for years and we were well aware of this before he returned as Chelsea manager.

People were happy to put up with these character traits and flaws when we're winning but when things aren't going so well it all becomes about Jose's character it seems.

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Fecking massive

Sad isn't it

posted on 29/10/15

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
We all know José is an egomaniac and we're all aware of the many flaws in Jose's very outspoken character. But the thing is we've been well aware of all this for years and we were well aware of this before he returned as Chelsea manager.

People were happy to put up with these character traits and flaws when we're winning but when things aren't going so well it all becomes about Jose's character it seems.

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For me he is ten times worse than in his first spell.

His character traits may have always been there, but he was better at reigning them in last time round both in terms of depth and quantity.

He has become a caricature of himself and a deserved target for ridicule and that in turn makes the club a target for ridicule too.

He is damaging the image of the club and as Gazza said taking the fun away from supporting Chelsea.

He is making everything totally about him and he clearly does not give a flying feck about the negative consequences.

I really don't think any boss at work would command the respect of the team that he/she manages if he/she continued this relentless pattern of poor behaviour and I think he has lost the respect of many of the players.

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