How is the squad 'poor'?
That's ridiculous.
If your going to post please explain why you feel that this is ridiculous.
By the standards set over the last almost 20 years this is a poor squad inn terms of numbers and depth.
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
comment by MTC (U19797)
posted 9 minutes ago
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
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And the hilarious thing is you get put down on here for moaning and being pessimistic which is exactly what Jose has been like all season to date
Imagine being 14th 4 months into the season after winning the dam league
Mtc, i am real, i have not suggested that the players are poor and have become bad players over night.
My view is the squad is poor in terms of numbers and depth.
We have suffered several players having a run of bad form and the squad has not had the depth to counter act the poor form of these players.
The Spurs game, its easy to g wtf, but Spurs are on a far better run of form than us , at home .
Jose didn't want to loose this game and I'm for one am with him on this , i prefer the draw over a spirited loss at this point in the season.
And our attack is fckn poor , (come on you get real.)
Costa, misfiring, Falcao ?????????????? and Remy who is not given a chance.
At the end of the season , i could see him walking.
comment by DrrrrOggggBaaaa! (U20071)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MTC (U19797)
posted 9 minutes ago
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the hilarious thing is you get put down on here for moaning and being pessimistic which is exactly what Jose has been like all season to date
Imagine being 14th 4 months into the season after winning the dam league
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dude its not pessimistic to see the reality of a situation
his comments post spurs were just weird
That match was a disgrace and for him to sit there and say it was our best performance is shocking
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 minute ago
Mtc, i am real, i have not suggested that the players are poor and have become bad players over night.
My view is the squad is poor in terms of numbers and depth.
We have suffered several players having a run of bad form and the squad has not had the depth to counter act the poor form of these players.
The Spurs game, its easy to g wtf, but Spurs are on a far better run of form than us , at home .
Jose didn't want to loose this game and I'm for one am with him on this , i prefer the draw over a spirited loss at this point in the season.
And our attack is fckn poor , (come on you get real.)
Costa, misfiring, Falcao ?????????????? and Remy who is not given a chance.
At the end of the season , i could see him walking.
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Our attack isnt poor,
the set up is poor
We do not actually attack, you heard jose, "defensive positions with the ball" ....yes with the ball.
If you think that attacking players will flourish when we are defensive with the ball, im sorry but your naive.
How can Hazard and co, create chances when they are being trained to hold defensive positions when on the ball, we are then left with the counter attack.....thats it
Mtc, sorry i can't agree,
He prioritised this game as a must not loose , not a must win.
The fall out would have been terrible if we had lost and like it or not this current Spurs side are playing a better game than us and we are slowly trying to reinstall the confidence from which we can put a decent run together.
Look if you compare our main strikers to any of our rivals its clear we have not got a functioning set up.
Yes we do have attacking midfielders but our out and out is abysmal.
This squad isn't poor at all. It's under performing, but it's not poor ffs. Was it poor and apparently not good enough to finish top 4 according to you when it was winning the title with three games to spare last season?
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 hour ago
If your going to post please explain why you feel that this is ridiculous.
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It's a 25 man squad full of international footballers. If I told you the squad was poor in August you would have no doubt laughed in my face. In short your blind faith in Mourinho has led you to the wrong conclusion as that same squad won the league.
A mismanaged preseason and a non sustainable seize mentality coupled with internal and external bickering has led to poor results.
That better?
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 25 minutes ago
Look if you compare our main strikers to any of our rivals its clear we have not got a functioning set up.
Yes we do have attacking midfielders but our out and out is abysmal.
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was costa abysmal when we were playing free flowing attacking football at the beginning of last season ?
No he wasnt, in fact he was prolific,
After Xmas jose regressed into a defensive style after the defeat to spurs for fear of losing and we have been defensive ever since.
trouble is is think jose has gone over board with it now and its mad.
your assumption hat its the players is again naive, yes they have ajob to do, but jose tells them what to do, sets the team up and basis his teams on how well they defend.
Spurs was a joke
jose lovers needs to accept that he screw up
handling eva saga
totally got wrong with KDB, Salah, Cuadrado, Mata, Oscar, Lukaku. we had a squad full of potential before he came few years ago, young a talented players, now look at in Oscar...total failure, unable to promote one single player from youth generation, gor on wrong side with hazard, getting in fight with media/our PR is worst in decade/, falcao business was worse then torres, constant problems with ref or other managers.. honestly if we wont qualified for next stage of CL in game vs porto then I don't see reason to keep him. we are 12 points behine 4spot and I don't see any improvement at all.bring ancelotti or hiddink if we can, replace death wood like ivanovic sooner then latter, sell mikel in January, play kenedy, lotus and remy more.
jose isn't a manger who can take us further...only backwards.
Well this is depressing.
We won a double a few months ago.
Of the 5 league titles in our whole existence, we won 60% of them under Jose.
If it is his fault, which it probably is mostly. He's got plenty of time in the bank
muppet its not a squad of 25 international footballers, as per usual go and do your home work instead of gobbing off as the norm.
mtc, Mourinho has been setting his teams up the same way for years , this squad hasn't the strength in depth to handle his style.
The balance is not right imo.
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 19 minutes ago
mtc, Mourinho has been setting his teams up the same way for years , this squad hasn't the strength in depth to handle his style.
The balance is not right imo.
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I believe that jose has gone way to far in his defensive outlook
We will see, it is possible that steadying the ship is the order of the day.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I couldn't give a flying fig about getting CL this season at this point.
Ifarka I'm with you here that the priority is addressing the squad and big changes will need to be made over the next two transfer windows.
Hopefully we can also use the remainder of this season to integrate the likes of Kenedy, Ruben etc as well.
How do you think you will do that Superb without Champions League money or the offer of Champions League football to prospective targets ? The hierarchy spoke last week of complying with FFP so Abramovich funding a whole lot of transfers would be inconsistent with that.
I worry about Arsenal finishing top 4 as well with the injuries we have and Liverpool improving and Spurs on a roll.
Dont worry GUNNER you got top 3 sown up unless Leicester do an Atletico on steroids.
Liverpool are too inconsistent and Spurs don't have the squad depth to keep this up all season, Poch system is demanding and for all their athleticism their is not much in the way of creativity.
How do you think you will do that Superb without Champions League money or the offer of Champions League football to prospective targets ?
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Really Gunner ?
There's more money than ever now in the PL so not getting the CL money for one season really won't be a huge problem at all. Especially if we make sure we're back in it the following season.
As for attracting players we're still in a very good position to attract many of the best players around with the prestige of playing for Chelsea in the best league in the world in the best city in the world. Not to mention getting paid a huge wage for the privalege.
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
muppet its not a squad of 25 international footballers, as per usual go and do your home work instead of gobbing off as the norm.
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It's still a squad of 25 like everyone else. I know you're fairly illiterate, it's well documented, so I'll let go that you can't interpret the statement.
You have lots of international footballers. The squad size is 25 like everyone else. Saying it's small is erroneous.
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posted on 1/12/15
How is the squad 'poor'?
That's ridiculous.
posted on 1/12/15
If your going to post please explain why you feel that this is ridiculous.
posted on 1/12/15
By the standards set over the last almost 20 years this is a poor squad inn terms of numbers and depth.
posted on 1/12/15
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
posted on 1/12/15
comment by MTC (U19797)
posted 9 minutes ago
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the hilarious thing is you get put down on here for moaning and being pessimistic which is exactly what Jose has been like all season to date
Imagine being 14th 4 months into the season after winning the dam league
posted on 1/12/15
Mtc, i am real, i have not suggested that the players are poor and have become bad players over night.
My view is the squad is poor in terms of numbers and depth.
We have suffered several players having a run of bad form and the squad has not had the depth to counter act the poor form of these players.
The Spurs game, its easy to g wtf, but Spurs are on a far better run of form than us , at home .
Jose didn't want to loose this game and I'm for one am with him on this , i prefer the draw over a spirited loss at this point in the season.
And our attack is fckn poor , (come on you get real.)
Costa, misfiring, Falcao ?????????????? and Remy who is not given a chance.
At the end of the season , i could see him walking.
posted on 1/12/15
comment by DrrrrOggggBaaaa! (U20071)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MTC (U19797)
posted 9 minutes ago
Iffy,
the squad is not poor, cmon mate get real. This squad won the premier league in May by a distance.
Please dont tell me that you seriously think these players became poor overnight?
The problem is jose, Negative tactics, falling out with players etc.
go and read his post moatch quotes fromt he spurs game
"this was the best chelsea of the season"
"Hazards best game of the season"
"the team did well and was excellent defensivley whilst on the ball"
WTF
Hazard best game was vs Norwich but after the game all he did was tell us that hes not a number 10, Sneijder and Deco were better than him, he will play where he tells him. Next game, Hazard has a stinker
Against spurs, we didnt even look like we wanted to win a a game of football, all Hazard did was run around chasing back players, he offered nothing going forward, so Jose saying that the Attacking player Hazards best game was a game where he defended well but did not attack is quite frankly madness
No point in sacking him now, but my god with him in charge, we will be alot weaker next season when players like Hazard want to leave
See out the season, and then he should go IMO, hes not built for a dynasty, he wont promote youth and without the CL the money wont be there for him to sign players,
What we will see is past it has been squad players come in to do a job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the hilarious thing is you get put down on here for moaning and being pessimistic which is exactly what Jose has been like all season to date
Imagine being 14th 4 months into the season after winning the dam league
----------------------------------------------------------------------
dude its not pessimistic to see the reality of a situation
his comments post spurs were just weird
That match was a disgrace and for him to sit there and say it was our best performance is shocking
posted on 1/12/15
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 minute ago
Mtc, i am real, i have not suggested that the players are poor and have become bad players over night.
My view is the squad is poor in terms of numbers and depth.
We have suffered several players having a run of bad form and the squad has not had the depth to counter act the poor form of these players.
The Spurs game, its easy to g wtf, but Spurs are on a far better run of form than us , at home .
Jose didn't want to loose this game and I'm for one am with him on this , i prefer the draw over a spirited loss at this point in the season.
And our attack is fckn poor , (come on you get real.)
Costa, misfiring, Falcao ?????????????? and Remy who is not given a chance.
At the end of the season , i could see him walking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our attack isnt poor,
the set up is poor
We do not actually attack, you heard jose, "defensive positions with the ball" ....yes with the ball.
If you think that attacking players will flourish when we are defensive with the ball, im sorry but your naive.
How can Hazard and co, create chances when they are being trained to hold defensive positions when on the ball, we are then left with the counter attack.....thats it
posted on 1/12/15
Mtc, sorry i can't agree,
He prioritised this game as a must not loose , not a must win.
The fall out would have been terrible if we had lost and like it or not this current Spurs side are playing a better game than us and we are slowly trying to reinstall the confidence from which we can put a decent run together.
posted on 1/12/15
Look if you compare our main strikers to any of our rivals its clear we have not got a functioning set up.
Yes we do have attacking midfielders but our out and out is abysmal.
posted on 1/12/15
This squad isn't poor at all. It's under performing, but it's not poor ffs. Was it poor and apparently not good enough to finish top 4 according to you when it was winning the title with three games to spare last season?
posted on 1/12/15
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 hour ago
If your going to post please explain why you feel that this is ridiculous.
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It's a 25 man squad full of international footballers. If I told you the squad was poor in August you would have no doubt laughed in my face. In short your blind faith in Mourinho has led you to the wrong conclusion as that same squad won the league.
A mismanaged preseason and a non sustainable seize mentality coupled with internal and external bickering has led to poor results.
That better?
posted on 1/12/15
Seige *
posted on 1/12/15
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 25 minutes ago
Look if you compare our main strikers to any of our rivals its clear we have not got a functioning set up.
Yes we do have attacking midfielders but our out and out is abysmal.
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was costa abysmal when we were playing free flowing attacking football at the beginning of last season ?
No he wasnt, in fact he was prolific,
After Xmas jose regressed into a defensive style after the defeat to spurs for fear of losing and we have been defensive ever since.
trouble is is think jose has gone over board with it now and its mad.
your assumption hat its the players is again naive, yes they have ajob to do, but jose tells them what to do, sets the team up and basis his teams on how well they defend.
Spurs was a joke
posted on 1/12/15
jose lovers needs to accept that he screw up
handling eva saga
totally got wrong with KDB, Salah, Cuadrado, Mata, Oscar, Lukaku. we had a squad full of potential before he came few years ago, young a talented players, now look at in Oscar...total failure, unable to promote one single player from youth generation, gor on wrong side with hazard, getting in fight with media/our PR is worst in decade/, falcao business was worse then torres, constant problems with ref or other managers.. honestly if we wont qualified for next stage of CL in game vs porto then I don't see reason to keep him. we are 12 points behine 4spot and I don't see any improvement at all.bring ancelotti or hiddink if we can, replace death wood like ivanovic sooner then latter, sell mikel in January, play kenedy, lotus and remy more.
jose isn't a manger who can take us further...only backwards.
posted on 1/12/15
Well this is depressing.
We won a double a few months ago.
Of the 5 league titles in our whole existence, we won 60% of them under Jose.
If it is his fault, which it probably is mostly. He's got plenty of time in the bank
posted on 1/12/15
muppet its not a squad of 25 international footballers, as per usual go and do your home work instead of gobbing off as the norm.
posted on 1/12/15
mtc, Mourinho has been setting his teams up the same way for years , this squad hasn't the strength in depth to handle his style.
The balance is not right imo.
posted on 1/12/15
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 19 minutes ago
mtc, Mourinho has been setting his teams up the same way for years , this squad hasn't the strength in depth to handle his style.
The balance is not right imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe that jose has gone way to far in his defensive outlook
We will see, it is possible that steadying the ship is the order of the day.
posted on 1/12/15
Maybe I'm in the minority but I couldn't give a flying fig about getting CL this season at this point.
Ifarka I'm with you here that the priority is addressing the squad and big changes will need to be made over the next two transfer windows.
Hopefully we can also use the remainder of this season to integrate the likes of Kenedy, Ruben etc as well.
posted on 1/12/15
How do you think you will do that Superb without Champions League money or the offer of Champions League football to prospective targets ? The hierarchy spoke last week of complying with FFP so Abramovich funding a whole lot of transfers would be inconsistent with that.
I worry about Arsenal finishing top 4 as well with the injuries we have and Liverpool improving and Spurs on a roll.
posted on 1/12/15
Dont worry GUNNER you got top 3 sown up unless Leicester do an Atletico on steroids.
Liverpool are too inconsistent and Spurs don't have the squad depth to keep this up all season, Poch system is demanding and for all their athleticism their is not much in the way of creativity.
posted on 1/12/15
How do you think you will do that Superb without Champions League money or the offer of Champions League football to prospective targets ?
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Really Gunner ?
There's more money than ever now in the PL so not getting the CL money for one season really won't be a huge problem at all. Especially if we make sure we're back in it the following season.
As for attracting players we're still in a very good position to attract many of the best players around with the prestige of playing for Chelsea in the best league in the world in the best city in the world. Not to mention getting paid a huge wage for the privalege.
posted on 1/12/15
comment by ifarka,PLATINISUCKS (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
muppet its not a squad of 25 international footballers, as per usual go and do your home work instead of gobbing off as the norm.
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It's still a squad of 25 like everyone else. I know you're fairly illiterate, it's well documented, so I'll let go that you can't interpret the statement.
You have lots of international footballers. The squad size is 25 like everyone else. Saying it's small is erroneous.
posted on 1/12/15
Fckn mickey mouser
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