"If he has agreed to write off the debt and the club including the players, stadium,hotel and training ground is for sale for £15m what is the problem."
The whole shebang is in Bolton duck
comment by Cousin Omar 'It was the Stuart Pearce 4 ... (U11726)
posted 47 minutes ago
"If he has agreed to write off the debt and the club including the players, stadium,hotel and training ground is for sale for £15m what is the problem."
The whole shebang is in Bolton duck
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You're a duck
29 or 30 games without a win, the law of averages should have kicked in by now & we should have another win but we haven't, If we don't win monday the wee ginger should be on his wee way and let Jimmy P take over.
It really doesn't matter. Need to get eddie davies out of the club. Not sure what the answer is. All I know is fans should stick together, get the burning pitchforks out at the blackburn game.
comment by normid norm (U8826)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
29 or 30 games without a win, the law of averages should have kicked in by now & we should have another win but we haven't, If we don't win monday the wee ginger should be on his wee way and let Jimmy P take over.
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Why in God's name is Jimmy P being mentioned AGAIN?
In case you missed it he DOES NOT WANT THE JOB!!!!!!
He's said so several times and if he was manager material he could have sat in the big chair elsewhere any number of times in the last ten years. It's getting moronic now, as soon as we go on a bad run someone brings up Jimmy even though he's got no interest in doing it.
Seriously, even if Lennon walked tomorrow who the hell WOULD take this job on? Sacking the manager could only make things worse by adding his compensation to the already god-awful debt figure and FFP means we can't strengthen next month even if some idiot player wants to sign for us. Yes I know we can sign free agents and even loanees under certain strict conditions but do you really think any player will come to a club that needs the PFA to pay the wages?
The players we have aren't good enough, the manager's been given nothing and will get nothing to change that so please tell me how you expect us to suddenly turn around our fortunes by giving the job to a man who doesn't want it and won't take it.
Sound like you need a manager like Dougie Freedman! He got us a solid CH and a winger that worries teams along with the best left back that we have had for years and a quality striker. All for the total sum of £Füćk all in transfer fees.
comment by Cousin Omar 'It was the Stuart Pearce 4 ... (U11726)
posted 42 minutes ago
Sound like you need a manager like Dougie Freedman! He got us a solid CH and a winger that worries teams along with the best left back that we have had for years and a quality striker. All for the total sum of £Füćk all in transfer fees.
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Simpleton.
comment by luckypeterpiper (3827)
Why in God's name is Jimmy P being mentioned AGAIN?
In case you missed it he DOES NOT WANT THE JOB!!!!!!
Calm down LPP & stop shouting, i had not heard that he did not want the job, but have now....
to be honest i don't think Lennons presence is having a positive effect on the team at all, as for paying him compensation for getting shut for shfiz performance is utterly ridiculous but then again this is the football industry & it is Bolton Wanderers
Once the ownership wrangle is over Lennon will be booted out. Any owner worth his salt will look at 5 wins in 12 months with the utterly dire football that is played and pay off Lennon. For the clubs sake and his it needs a fresh start.
The problem is we don't have new owners and the reason is........... the prospective buyers don't have enough capital to ensure the club would survive. Otherwise the deal would have been signed sealed and delivered before now now.
I would like to buy the club but unfortunately, I don't have the resources so I wouldn't even think about it. Why these idiots who don't have the cash want to own a money pit is anybodies guess but unless one of them can find new investment soon we are going into administration. The tax man is biting at our heels and he will soon bring us down.
To start calling for Lennon's head at this time is stupid and futile. Anybody with half a brain can see the club couldn't pay him the compensation he would be due and as has already been asked, who would take the job on?
The fans need to get behind the team on Monday and give them every reason to win the game.
Nobody is happy with the teams performance but when you are a professional you should give every ounce of effort regardless of circumstances that you are up against. This team does have some seasoned professionals and quite frankly they should be ashamed of themselves for collapsing in the way the did yesterday.
It doesn't set a good example to the youngsters in the team. They need to get together and grow some balls.
In the past we have had some good professionals like Big Sam, Nat Lofthouse, Wynn Davies, Warwick Rimmer and many more, I shudder to think what they would make of our present players. Don't put all the blame on Lennon. Support him and the team as bad as some of them are because if you don't it will get worse if that's possible.
I think a lot of what's gone on is down to one simple fact. The players and Lennon probably knew how bad things are financially long before we did and then throw in the fact they weren't paid in November and that they've only been paid part of their wages with the help of the PFA.
In all honesty, if you were told by your empoyer "sorry we can't afford to pay you and you might not get paid at Christmas either" would you be inspired to do your very best work? Or would you be worried about your mortgage, car payments, credit cards and feeding the kids? Sure footballers get paid a lot more than we do but their bills also tend to be correspondingly higher because it's human nature to live to the edge of your means. Like most people they depend on their salary arriving on time in order to keep their heads above water and when it suddenly stops it causes fear and uncertainty just as it would for a clerk in an office or a factory worker. Lennon and the players do bear a lot of responsibility for the woeful performances we've seen but I think that there are more than enough mitigating circumstances to make it understandable.
Personally I rate Lennon and think if we get a takeover we'll see a very different man on the touchline and very different players on the pitch. Some of ours are undoubtedly not good enough and will have to go but those that remain will (imo) benefit no end from having the uncertainty about their pay and their jobs resolved. For now I will back them all as best I can and hope they can grab a win from somewhere, anywhere because I truly believe that getting that one win WILL change things around. I'm not saying we'll suddenly become unbeatable football gods, just that a win however scrappy or ugly would do wonders for everyone's confidence.
COME ON YOU WHITES!!!!!
If being not paid excuses poor performance what about Aug to Oct?
See lPp's comment about the players and staff knowing more about the extent of the financial issues than we did.
Lennons gotta go. Forget the defeats. Its the manner of defeat, pack of spine and courage. I can forgive pack of ability, bit lack of desire, no way. To suggest pay is a mitigating circumstance is imo not correct,....how about aug-oct as petrov says above.
People arent going to blame lennon. They have there scapegoat already......
We can talk about it costinf the club money to get rid of lennon. Ther is an argument to say, can we afford not to get rid of lennon, for someone else who can assure survival. Or at least make us play with spirit
Won't make any difference at all. Sack him, keep him bolton are going in one direction only. The only way out is for the club to be bought out and all the incompetents who have been masquerading as chairman and board members to be kicked out of the club for evermore.
Vela to Cardiff / Mavies to Boro / Clough will probably be next the likes of wheater and maybe spearing out of contract , only the dross left, so it doesn't really matter who the manager is.
My guess for Boss Deano.
Moxey on a free to bristol city or wolves. Going to get a lot worse. Thanks again eddie
If Lennon goes who is available and more importantly who will come?
My real concern is that the youngsters will be sold for peanuts. £450,00 for Vela! Really?
We have hardly ever been good at taking a profit for a player and now we are in the position where we will be forced to take what we can for all the future stars of the club.
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posted on 26/12/15
"If he has agreed to write off the debt and the club including the players, stadium,hotel and training ground is for sale for £15m what is the problem."
The whole shebang is in Bolton duck
posted on 26/12/15
comment by Cousin Omar 'It was the Stuart Pearce 4 ... (U11726)
posted 47 minutes ago
"If he has agreed to write off the debt and the club including the players, stadium,hotel and training ground is for sale for £15m what is the problem."
The whole shebang is in Bolton duck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're a duck
posted on 26/12/15
29 or 30 games without a win, the law of averages should have kicked in by now & we should have another win but we haven't, If we don't win monday the wee ginger should be on his wee way and let Jimmy P take over.
posted on 26/12/15
It really doesn't matter. Need to get eddie davies out of the club. Not sure what the answer is. All I know is fans should stick together, get the burning pitchforks out at the blackburn game.
posted on 26/12/15
comment by normid norm (U8826)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
29 or 30 games without a win, the law of averages should have kicked in by now & we should have another win but we haven't, If we don't win monday the wee ginger should be on his wee way and let Jimmy P take over.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why in God's name is Jimmy P being mentioned AGAIN?
In case you missed it he DOES NOT WANT THE JOB!!!!!!
He's said so several times and if he was manager material he could have sat in the big chair elsewhere any number of times in the last ten years. It's getting moronic now, as soon as we go on a bad run someone brings up Jimmy even though he's got no interest in doing it.
Seriously, even if Lennon walked tomorrow who the hell WOULD take this job on? Sacking the manager could only make things worse by adding his compensation to the already god-awful debt figure and FFP means we can't strengthen next month even if some idiot player wants to sign for us. Yes I know we can sign free agents and even loanees under certain strict conditions but do you really think any player will come to a club that needs the PFA to pay the wages?
The players we have aren't good enough, the manager's been given nothing and will get nothing to change that so please tell me how you expect us to suddenly turn around our fortunes by giving the job to a man who doesn't want it and won't take it.
posted on 26/12/15
Sound like you need a manager like Dougie Freedman! He got us a solid CH and a winger that worries teams along with the best left back that we have had for years and a quality striker. All for the total sum of £Füćk all in transfer fees.
posted on 27/12/15
comment by Cousin Omar 'It was the Stuart Pearce 4 ... (U11726)
posted 42 minutes ago
Sound like you need a manager like Dougie Freedman! He got us a solid CH and a winger that worries teams along with the best left back that we have had for years and a quality striker. All for the total sum of £Füćk all in transfer fees.
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Simpleton.
posted on 27/12/15
comment by luckypeterpiper (3827)
Why in God's name is Jimmy P being mentioned AGAIN?
In case you missed it he DOES NOT WANT THE JOB!!!!!!
Calm down LPP & stop shouting, i had not heard that he did not want the job, but have now....
to be honest i don't think Lennons presence is having a positive effect on the team at all, as for paying him compensation for getting shut for shfiz performance is utterly ridiculous but then again this is the football industry & it is Bolton Wanderers
posted on 27/12/15
Once the ownership wrangle is over Lennon will be booted out. Any owner worth his salt will look at 5 wins in 12 months with the utterly dire football that is played and pay off Lennon. For the clubs sake and his it needs a fresh start.
posted on 27/12/15
The problem is we don't have new owners and the reason is........... the prospective buyers don't have enough capital to ensure the club would survive. Otherwise the deal would have been signed sealed and delivered before now now.
I would like to buy the club but unfortunately, I don't have the resources so I wouldn't even think about it. Why these idiots who don't have the cash want to own a money pit is anybodies guess but unless one of them can find new investment soon we are going into administration. The tax man is biting at our heels and he will soon bring us down.
To start calling for Lennon's head at this time is stupid and futile. Anybody with half a brain can see the club couldn't pay him the compensation he would be due and as has already been asked, who would take the job on?
The fans need to get behind the team on Monday and give them every reason to win the game.
Nobody is happy with the teams performance but when you are a professional you should give every ounce of effort regardless of circumstances that you are up against. This team does have some seasoned professionals and quite frankly they should be ashamed of themselves for collapsing in the way the did yesterday.
It doesn't set a good example to the youngsters in the team. They need to get together and grow some balls.
In the past we have had some good professionals like Big Sam, Nat Lofthouse, Wynn Davies, Warwick Rimmer and many more, I shudder to think what they would make of our present players. Don't put all the blame on Lennon. Support him and the team as bad as some of them are because if you don't it will get worse if that's possible.
posted on 27/12/15
I think a lot of what's gone on is down to one simple fact. The players and Lennon probably knew how bad things are financially long before we did and then throw in the fact they weren't paid in November and that they've only been paid part of their wages with the help of the PFA.
In all honesty, if you were told by your empoyer "sorry we can't afford to pay you and you might not get paid at Christmas either" would you be inspired to do your very best work? Or would you be worried about your mortgage, car payments, credit cards and feeding the kids? Sure footballers get paid a lot more than we do but their bills also tend to be correspondingly higher because it's human nature to live to the edge of your means. Like most people they depend on their salary arriving on time in order to keep their heads above water and when it suddenly stops it causes fear and uncertainty just as it would for a clerk in an office or a factory worker. Lennon and the players do bear a lot of responsibility for the woeful performances we've seen but I think that there are more than enough mitigating circumstances to make it understandable.
Personally I rate Lennon and think if we get a takeover we'll see a very different man on the touchline and very different players on the pitch. Some of ours are undoubtedly not good enough and will have to go but those that remain will (imo) benefit no end from having the uncertainty about their pay and their jobs resolved. For now I will back them all as best I can and hope they can grab a win from somewhere, anywhere because I truly believe that getting that one win WILL change things around. I'm not saying we'll suddenly become unbeatable football gods, just that a win however scrappy or ugly would do wonders for everyone's confidence.
COME ON YOU WHITES!!!!!
posted on 27/12/15
If being not paid excuses poor performance what about Aug to Oct?
posted on 27/12/15
See lPp's comment about the players and staff knowing more about the extent of the financial issues than we did.
posted on 27/12/15
Lennons gotta go. Forget the defeats. Its the manner of defeat, pack of spine and courage. I can forgive pack of ability, bit lack of desire, no way. To suggest pay is a mitigating circumstance is imo not correct,....how about aug-oct as petrov says above.
People arent going to blame lennon. They have there scapegoat already......
We can talk about it costinf the club money to get rid of lennon. Ther is an argument to say, can we afford not to get rid of lennon, for someone else who can assure survival. Or at least make us play with spirit
posted on 27/12/15
Won't make any difference at all. Sack him, keep him bolton are going in one direction only. The only way out is for the club to be bought out and all the incompetents who have been masquerading as chairman and board members to be kicked out of the club for evermore.
posted on 27/12/15
Vela to Cardiff / Mavies to Boro / Clough will probably be next the likes of wheater and maybe spearing out of contract , only the dross left, so it doesn't really matter who the manager is.
My guess for Boss Deano.
posted on 27/12/15
Moxey on a free to bristol city or wolves. Going to get a lot worse. Thanks again eddie
posted on 29/12/15
If Lennon goes who is available and more importantly who will come?
My real concern is that the youngsters will be sold for peanuts. £450,00 for Vela! Really?
We have hardly ever been good at taking a profit for a player and now we are in the position where we will be forced to take what we can for all the future stars of the club.
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