Only my opinion but you should've stuck with Sherwood. You're doomed either way but you had a better chance with someone who really knows this league.
A year below, however bad that sounds, may well do you good in the long term
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Do you mean the Sherwood who had a full pre-season, was over the moon about the player's "he" had signed, got over-emotional at the first sign of trouble when a calm head seeing us through teething troubles was needed, and then had it given out that the players weren't his signings
Nope. We shouldn't.
Against West Ham we finally had a full 90 minute performance from our players, and with Gestede a bit sharper would have won. When did we last have a 90 minute performance?
Garde is trying to do what is probably impossible. I say probably; I still see a faint glimmer of hope. But I think he knows what he's doing, he's honest with the fans and the players, and what he's doing is the way we have to go because the alternative routes have been tried and failed.
We need to buy in the transfer window and shed the dross, whether we're looking at the Championship or the PL. We have to rebuild properly, even if we have to go via the Championship.
Agree. Garde should have stuck with the players who played v Newcastle. Mad (and wrong) to change things again.
There are some very poor sides in this league......and the supposedly good ones are not that special either....
Bad news is we are the worst
At least we have room to improve
Remi should have kept the same team where possible from West Ham game.
The jury is still out for me on him. 8 games in and still no win, not exactly the new manager bounce.
Sherwood had to go, but why we didn't go and get Moyes I will never know. 😕
Just watching MOTD and I'm absolutely livid. The defending for both goals is just criminal.
1) Richards, our captain, clearly looks over his shoulder, sees Howson, ignores him, slips and then surprise surprise Howson scores..
2) The lack of tracking back by Richardson for the 2nd goal is so bad that I would fine him a weeks wages.
Shearer said it right. Lack of desire and effort and are the main reasons we are going down.
Yes we are a poor side, but I don't think we have the worst squad in the league. Are the likes of Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford really much better player for player than us? Not by much, but they're putting their heart and soul into every match.
We can keep blaming the manager, and he was probably the wrong appointment for a club in our situation, but we have too many mercenaries just happy to get their pay cheque every week.
It should be a privilege to play for one of the biggest clubs in English football. and unfortunately most of our players just don't care...
http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/full
It looks like Ayew is the only one putting a shift in recently and is he gonna stick around when we're in the Championship?
We need a clear out, and of course, our moronic Chairman to sell up asap.
I too was shocked by Richards. Is it just me, or beneath the hype is he that good? And is he really that good a captain?
OK, in that particular instance Bacuna was way out of position, but where was the communication?
I think in the previous two matches the players DID show desire and commitment; we could see things were improving. We desperately need three new players minimum; someone to do the Gestede role which he's not quite sharp enough for, a midfield enforcer to do the Sanchez role, and a new LB. Minimum.
But I don't think Richards has ever quite fitted into the defensive role or indeed the captain's role. I'd be surprised if Garde can't see that as well.
Spurs fan in peace.
I really dont want you to go down. Villa is a great away trip and a huge club in English football. Just doesn't seem right that you are in such a mess at the moment.
Unfortunately, I don't think it will be that easy to come straight back up - every team will want to beat Villa and there are some good teams in that division.
Good luck
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I'm suprised that you are suprised by Sinclair. If you remember, we had him on loan the season before you took him on and he was absolutely gash and we couldn't send him back to City quick enough.
I remember you guys getting pretty excited when he joined Villa despite our warnings, which was put down to sour-grapes.
Then there's Lescott... £2m.....
You reap what you sow, guys.
Don't think our squad is that bad. Stick Delph and Benteke back in and we'd be fine, even with a questionable defence. OK none of the squad are top 6 material, but you could say that about most PL teams. What we haven't got are those 2 or 3 key players who make a difference. Think the main issues are:
Defence: Lescott+Okore are OK (hope Okore's injury isn't serious), Clark OK as backup, but Amavi injured is a huge blow. Dim is to blame for leaving us with no proper backup to Amavi. Hutton is a dodgy defender and so is Richards.
Midfield: Somebody who can do what Sanchez is supposed to do would make a huge difference.
Attack: We need an out and out goalscorer and haven't got one. Ayew is worth his place but he can't do it on his own.
Sort those out and we'd improve enough to compete seriously in the PL. It's the odd goal (missed or given away) in most matches which has sunk us.
Guys, face it, we are sheite and we are going down..
Guzan
Hutton Okore Toner Kinsella
Westwood Gardner
Sinclair Grealish NZogbia
Gestede
next season if they are lucky to hold on to Okore the rest, ie Amavi, Richards, Gana, Veretout, Traore, Ayew will be gone
I think the summer will see a complete overhaul the like we haven't seen before.
The current situation has echoes of 86/87 in that we have a disjointed side with so much inexperience.
You look at that side with the likes of Steve Hunt, Stainrod, Spink, Evans, Gray (all who were experienced but underperformed) and the youngsters we had - Dorigo, Keown, Gallagher, Glover, Aspinall, Robinson.
Whilst I like Garde I would feel a whole lot better with someone like Pearson in charge to oversee a rebuild.
The job he did at Leicester (starting in league 1) is all the proof you need that he can oversee a rebuilding job, which Villa ultimately need.
Interesting read here...
http://www.myoldmansaid.com/the-villa-rant-anger-builds-premier-league-end-looms-avfc/
Look on the bright side - Its not too bad for you Vile fans.... some localish derby's such as Burton Albion if they get promotion.
For the benefit of Vile fans:
Depart Aston Station 12.43
Arrive Bham New Street 12.49
Depart Bham New Street 13.03
Arrive Burton on Trent 13.25
Have a nice day Seals....
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comment by Paddy (U14157)
Gotta make the best of a bad situation, I'm not convinced Albion fans are looking forward to another season of coming 11th-16th while watching Pulis but we'll see.
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Paddy, it's not been great of late, but anyone would rather be mediocre and safe in the Premier League under Tony Pulis than bottom and 11 points adrift, that's a given, and if Albion continue to play like we did against Newcastle, there are much happier times ahead for us Baggies fans.
It's a shame your squad isn't at the point where, if it's not quite good enough for the Premier League, it's certainly too good for the Championship. That's what Albion's reputation as a yo-yo club was founded on until we managed to get strong enough to stay in the PL - the footballing gods willing - without a chairman throwing in millions of his personal wealth.
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posted on 28/12/15
Only my opinion but you should've stuck with Sherwood. You're doomed either way but you had a better chance with someone who really knows this league.
A year below, however bad that sounds, may well do you good in the long term
posted on 28/12/15
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posted on 28/12/15
Do you mean the Sherwood who had a full pre-season, was over the moon about the player's "he" had signed, got over-emotional at the first sign of trouble when a calm head seeing us through teething troubles was needed, and then had it given out that the players weren't his signings
Nope. We shouldn't.
posted on 28/12/15
Against West Ham we finally had a full 90 minute performance from our players, and with Gestede a bit sharper would have won. When did we last have a 90 minute performance?
Garde is trying to do what is probably impossible. I say probably; I still see a faint glimmer of hope. But I think he knows what he's doing, he's honest with the fans and the players, and what he's doing is the way we have to go because the alternative routes have been tried and failed.
We need to buy in the transfer window and shed the dross, whether we're looking at the Championship or the PL. We have to rebuild properly, even if we have to go via the Championship.
posted on 28/12/15
Agree. Garde should have stuck with the players who played v Newcastle. Mad (and wrong) to change things again.
posted on 28/12/15
There are some very poor sides in this league......and the supposedly good ones are not that special either....
Bad news is we are the worst
posted on 28/12/15
At least we have room to improve
posted on 28/12/15
Remi should have kept the same team where possible from West Ham game.
The jury is still out for me on him. 8 games in and still no win, not exactly the new manager bounce.
Sherwood had to go, but why we didn't go and get Moyes I will never know. 😕
posted on 28/12/15
Just watching MOTD and I'm absolutely livid. The defending for both goals is just criminal.
1) Richards, our captain, clearly looks over his shoulder, sees Howson, ignores him, slips and then surprise surprise Howson scores..
2) The lack of tracking back by Richardson for the 2nd goal is so bad that I would fine him a weeks wages.
Shearer said it right. Lack of desire and effort and are the main reasons we are going down.
Yes we are a poor side, but I don't think we have the worst squad in the league. Are the likes of Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford really much better player for player than us? Not by much, but they're putting their heart and soul into every match.
We can keep blaming the manager, and he was probably the wrong appointment for a club in our situation, but we have too many mercenaries just happy to get their pay cheque every week.
It should be a privilege to play for one of the biggest clubs in English football. and unfortunately most of our players just don't care...
http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/full
It looks like Ayew is the only one putting a shift in recently and is he gonna stick around when we're in the Championship?
We need a clear out, and of course, our moronic Chairman to sell up asap.
posted on 29/12/15
I too was shocked by Richards. Is it just me, or beneath the hype is he that good? And is he really that good a captain?
OK, in that particular instance Bacuna was way out of position, but where was the communication?
I think in the previous two matches the players DID show desire and commitment; we could see things were improving. We desperately need three new players minimum; someone to do the Gestede role which he's not quite sharp enough for, a midfield enforcer to do the Sanchez role, and a new LB. Minimum.
But I don't think Richards has ever quite fitted into the defensive role or indeed the captain's role. I'd be surprised if Garde can't see that as well.
posted on 29/12/15
Spurs fan in peace.
I really dont want you to go down. Villa is a great away trip and a huge club in English football. Just doesn't seem right that you are in such a mess at the moment.
Unfortunately, I don't think it will be that easy to come straight back up - every team will want to beat Villa and there are some good teams in that division.
Good luck
posted on 29/12/15
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posted on 29/12/15
I'm suprised that you are suprised by Sinclair. If you remember, we had him on loan the season before you took him on and he was absolutely gash and we couldn't send him back to City quick enough.
I remember you guys getting pretty excited when he joined Villa despite our warnings, which was put down to sour-grapes.
Then there's Lescott... £2m.....
You reap what you sow, guys.
posted on 29/12/15
Don't think our squad is that bad. Stick Delph and Benteke back in and we'd be fine, even with a questionable defence. OK none of the squad are top 6 material, but you could say that about most PL teams. What we haven't got are those 2 or 3 key players who make a difference. Think the main issues are:
Defence: Lescott+Okore are OK (hope Okore's injury isn't serious), Clark OK as backup, but Amavi injured is a huge blow. Dim is to blame for leaving us with no proper backup to Amavi. Hutton is a dodgy defender and so is Richards.
Midfield: Somebody who can do what Sanchez is supposed to do would make a huge difference.
Attack: We need an out and out goalscorer and haven't got one. Ayew is worth his place but he can't do it on his own.
Sort those out and we'd improve enough to compete seriously in the PL. It's the odd goal (missed or given away) in most matches which has sunk us.
posted on 29/12/15
Guys, face it, we are sheite and we are going down..
posted on 29/12/15
Guzan
Hutton Okore Toner Kinsella
Westwood Gardner
Sinclair Grealish NZogbia
Gestede
next season if they are lucky to hold on to Okore the rest, ie Amavi, Richards, Gana, Veretout, Traore, Ayew will be gone
posted on 29/12/15
I think the summer will see a complete overhaul the like we haven't seen before.
The current situation has echoes of 86/87 in that we have a disjointed side with so much inexperience.
You look at that side with the likes of Steve Hunt, Stainrod, Spink, Evans, Gray (all who were experienced but underperformed) and the youngsters we had - Dorigo, Keown, Gallagher, Glover, Aspinall, Robinson.
Whilst I like Garde I would feel a whole lot better with someone like Pearson in charge to oversee a rebuild.
The job he did at Leicester (starting in league 1) is all the proof you need that he can oversee a rebuilding job, which Villa ultimately need.
posted on 29/12/15
Interesting read here...
http://www.myoldmansaid.com/the-villa-rant-anger-builds-premier-league-end-looms-avfc/
posted on 29/12/15
Look on the bright side - Its not too bad for you Vile fans.... some localish derby's such as Burton Albion if they get promotion.
For the benefit of Vile fans:
Depart Aston Station 12.43
Arrive Bham New Street 12.49
Depart Bham New Street 13.03
Arrive Burton on Trent 13.25
Have a nice day Seals....
posted on 29/12/15
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posted on 30/12/15
comment by Paddy (U14157)
Gotta make the best of a bad situation, I'm not convinced Albion fans are looking forward to another season of coming 11th-16th while watching Pulis but we'll see.
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Paddy, it's not been great of late, but anyone would rather be mediocre and safe in the Premier League under Tony Pulis than bottom and 11 points adrift, that's a given, and if Albion continue to play like we did against Newcastle, there are much happier times ahead for us Baggies fans.
It's a shame your squad isn't at the point where, if it's not quite good enough for the Premier League, it's certainly too good for the Championship. That's what Albion's reputation as a yo-yo club was founded on until we managed to get strong enough to stay in the PL - the footballing gods willing - without a chairman throwing in millions of his personal wealth.
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