Assuming 666's comment is some attempt at being funny.....
This is an excellent decision by Derby. It will be a great opportunity for fans to show their appreciation for this great but very unfortunate player.
He was shown appreciation in the thousands of pounds he continued to be paid long after he served any useful purpose for the club... I was proud of the way DCFC conducted themselves regarding Barks and the way they extended him every chance to come back even when none of us really believed he could ever get back to the level we'd need him to, but this now is going too far.
It's not like he's paralysed, he just had his short-term career ended a tad prematurely. He may not be able to play football any more but he's perfectly capable of doing any one of a number of other jobs like everyone else has to, except he's fortunate to have had a huge head-start with regard to earnings and living comfortably. Sorry, but his service doesn't warrant a testimonial.
He may give it to charity 666?
comment by Gt_Karl (U1940)
posted 18 seconds ago
He may give it to charity 666?
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...then why not just have a charity match, or announce it as such? Nothing against Barks and not detracting from his Herculean effort to come back when many others would have given up, but his level of service doesn't warrant a testimonial in my opinion.
They might do, the Derby Telegraph is the worst news site ever....
Bucko's played more and scored more than Barks: will he get a testimonial?
Will Hughes has played more times for us, ffs, and he's twelve.
Have to say I agree with 666. Nothing against Barks whatsoever but he has done very well out of football and DCFC.
The club did handle the situation very respectfully.
If you saw his house (the Water Tower in Qaurndon) and cars, then he aint done too bad out of 'working' a few hours in recent years.
Thoroughly nice bloke (I've met him several times) but I for one won't be going to his testimonial.
I wish him all the best though.
Where do you think this mean streak in 666 comes from. Is it envy? or was he denied common decency as a child and so is full of some kind of bitterness?
He loves to have a serious DOWN on somebody. I think he would be a good case for psychiatric study. Is there somebody out there who would be interested in such a study? and if so, please publish your findings to add to our knowledge of strange human behaviour.
It's not about 'being mean' Mapdini, it's about setting precedents and observing the accepted standards.
Everyone agrees that Bucko embodies all that it would mean to us to pull on the shirt. He's passionate, committed, and gives his all for the club. There was talk of him going to Birmingham this window; where was the clamour for his testimonial? He's played more and is/was a crowd hero. He's "one of our own" but I'd no more expect him to get a testimonial than I would any other ex-Ram who did a job for us because he's not done the time required.
You could argue his last contract was given to him out of sentiment, the medical staff would have known he'd never play again but DCFC gave him a 2 year contract while he was injured
At the end of the day Derby County is a business and nothing would have been said if he'd been released then so I say Derby have already done the decent thing where many other clubs wouldnt
Not sure the reason of the testimonial TBH
I think it is more to do with giving fans the chance to give him a decent send off than anything else. Last season was a damp squib of a send off at the final game of the season, as everyone was so miserable at our sudden decline.
Footballers, (who I think, we can all agree are generally very well paid), also do not have to pay any income tax on testimonial monies received. Try that one yourself next time your self-assesment is due
I've nothing against Barker at all, but testimonials are an an antiquated idea from years ago when their pay was much less generous. Good luck to any fools who think it is a good idea to go to this reverse Robin Hood fixture.
Good grief 666, show some compassion man!
His knee was wrecked whilst giving his all for us; we paid him what his existing contract stipulated was due to him; he showed tremendous spirit to work his way back from a very bad injury; he set up a charitable foundation whilst injured ... and you still feel fit to kick him in the goolies!
Where does it say he will pocket all the money raised? It doesnt!
If he keeps a penny I would be amazed. It may not have been announced yet, but I would expect all of it to go into the various charities he supports.
When it does, perhaps one of them can send you the (h)umble pie you will be eating.
comment by Maяcо (U1329)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think it is more to do with giving fans the chance to give him a decent send off than anything else. Last season was a damp squib of a send off at the final game of the season, as everyone was so miserable at our sudden decline.
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...as opposed to the raucous merriment currently barely contained within that hallowed ground?
comment by Peeder (U1684)
posted 6 minutes ago
Good grief 666, show some compassion man!
His knee was wrecked whilst giving his all for us; we paid him what his existing contract stipulated was due to him; he showed tremendous spirit to work his way back from a very bad injury; he set up a charitable foundation whilst injured ... and you still feel fit to kick him in the goolies!
Where does it say he will pocket all the money raised? It doesnt!
If he keeps a penny I would be amazed. It may not have been announced yet, but I would expect all of it to go into the various charities he supports.
When it does, perhaps one of them can send you the (h)umble pie you will be eating.
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It doesn't say that he won't pocket the money either and, as discussed above, there's been ample opportunity to do so and to dress it as a charity match which would have been less divisive.
Try to remember that he wasn't just injured playing for us, he was injured whilst being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds to do a job with considerably less risk than many others do for considerably less reward.
666, The 'ins and outs' of this matter are there to be debated. It was simply the question WHY you should think to object to this act of charity in the first place.
I agree, on the whole, Barker has been treated very generously over a case where he was physically wrecked in the name of beating Nottingham Forest, which left him in no position to continue to earn his living from football.
Nobody admires more than I do, Jake's never give up and unstinting attitude towards playing for Derby County. If he no longer fits within club's plans, I hope he gets a decent transfer to continue his football career. But there is no question that he is finished as a footballer and he will go on to prove a huge boon to another club. Now that Burton Albion ,under the astute management of Nigel Clough look like making the Championship, he could do worse than make a move in that direction.
The question of 'Why?' is because testimonials are awarded for outstanding service, generally of a decade+, and Barks didn't come close.
The club has done far and away more than most others would in the same position already so by all means schedule a charity match, I just don't think Barker has any claim to anything more from DCFC or its fans.
Thought twice about nibbling on such mizerly bait, but I might have well have my minute's wriggle before the priest comes down.
I should imagine that the proceeds made from the testimonial will probably go towards his foundation, which appears to have taken much of his time & effort since his career-ending injury.
Barks gave good service to this club and is putting a lot back into the area. He is a Ram at heart and deserves support. We are quick to criticise the lack of loyalty of others and then we wonder why.
The only thing to say is that if you don't want to contrubute, don't go !
But you might actually see more former Rams and more stars that you will see when the famous Man U visit us.
And all for the price of 666's tip to his pizza delivery boy
Right, off to work....
Peeder, it pains me to say it but I agree with 666
"Compassion" is a bit strong a word to use, don't you think? He didn't lose his leg above the knee FFS.
I think the extension of Barker's contract and the testimonial are to hide the guilt the club feels about not having arranged his insurance properly before he was injured. If we want to sign decent players we have to be seen to be caring about their welfare.
'As well as the testimonial game a number of other events are planned for Barker's testimonial year, full details of which will be confirmed in due course.
Tickets for the testimonial match are £10 for Adults and £5 for Concessions. A Family Ticket (consisting of x2 Adults and x2 Children) costs £20.'
No mention whatsoever of charity or his foundation.
..............but if all the money raised does go to some worthwhile charity, then fair-play, but why call it a testimonial?
in some ways this thread reminds me of where I served my time. At Christmas, some long-serving wrinkly worker would come round rattling a collection box for the boss's present!!!!!!!!! The fact that they had worked there for 40-odd years (when there was only maybe five employees initially), and now it was a 500+ worker strong behemoth didn't seem to register. I, (having a reputation to keep up), always declined the tempataion to put a shilling in said box, (and was probably marked-down as a Commie for evermore)?
Can we buy him? We love an injured player.
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posted on 21/1/16
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posted on 21/1/16
Assuming 666's comment is some attempt at being funny.....
This is an excellent decision by Derby. It will be a great opportunity for fans to show their appreciation for this great but very unfortunate player.
posted on 21/1/16
He was shown appreciation in the thousands of pounds he continued to be paid long after he served any useful purpose for the club... I was proud of the way DCFC conducted themselves regarding Barks and the way they extended him every chance to come back even when none of us really believed he could ever get back to the level we'd need him to, but this now is going too far.
It's not like he's paralysed, he just had his short-term career ended a tad prematurely. He may not be able to play football any more but he's perfectly capable of doing any one of a number of other jobs like everyone else has to, except he's fortunate to have had a huge head-start with regard to earnings and living comfortably. Sorry, but his service doesn't warrant a testimonial.
posted on 21/1/16
He may give it to charity 666?
posted on 21/1/16
comment by Gt_Karl (U1940)
posted 18 seconds ago
He may give it to charity 666?
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...then why not just have a charity match, or announce it as such? Nothing against Barks and not detracting from his Herculean effort to come back when many others would have given up, but his level of service doesn't warrant a testimonial in my opinion.
posted on 21/1/16
They might do, the Derby Telegraph is the worst news site ever....
posted on 21/1/16
Bucko's played more and scored more than Barks: will he get a testimonial?
Will Hughes has played more times for us, ffs, and he's twelve.
posted on 21/1/16
posted on 21/1/16
Have to say I agree with 666. Nothing against Barks whatsoever but he has done very well out of football and DCFC.
The club did handle the situation very respectfully.
If you saw his house (the Water Tower in Qaurndon) and cars, then he aint done too bad out of 'working' a few hours in recent years.
Thoroughly nice bloke (I've met him several times) but I for one won't be going to his testimonial.
I wish him all the best though.
posted on 21/1/16
Where do you think this mean streak in 666 comes from. Is it envy? or was he denied common decency as a child and so is full of some kind of bitterness?
He loves to have a serious DOWN on somebody. I think he would be a good case for psychiatric study. Is there somebody out there who would be interested in such a study? and if so, please publish your findings to add to our knowledge of strange human behaviour.
posted on 21/1/16
It's not about 'being mean' Mapdini, it's about setting precedents and observing the accepted standards.
Everyone agrees that Bucko embodies all that it would mean to us to pull on the shirt. He's passionate, committed, and gives his all for the club. There was talk of him going to Birmingham this window; where was the clamour for his testimonial? He's played more and is/was a crowd hero. He's "one of our own" but I'd no more expect him to get a testimonial than I would any other ex-Ram who did a job for us because he's not done the time required.
posted on 21/1/16
You could argue his last contract was given to him out of sentiment, the medical staff would have known he'd never play again but DCFC gave him a 2 year contract while he was injured
At the end of the day Derby County is a business and nothing would have been said if he'd been released then so I say Derby have already done the decent thing where many other clubs wouldnt
Not sure the reason of the testimonial TBH
posted on 21/1/16
I think it is more to do with giving fans the chance to give him a decent send off than anything else. Last season was a damp squib of a send off at the final game of the season, as everyone was so miserable at our sudden decline.
posted on 21/1/16
Footballers, (who I think, we can all agree are generally very well paid), also do not have to pay any income tax on testimonial monies received. Try that one yourself next time your self-assesment is due
I've nothing against Barker at all, but testimonials are an an antiquated idea from years ago when their pay was much less generous. Good luck to any fools who think it is a good idea to go to this reverse Robin Hood fixture.
posted on 21/1/16
Good grief 666, show some compassion man!
His knee was wrecked whilst giving his all for us; we paid him what his existing contract stipulated was due to him; he showed tremendous spirit to work his way back from a very bad injury; he set up a charitable foundation whilst injured ... and you still feel fit to kick him in the goolies!
Where does it say he will pocket all the money raised? It doesnt!
If he keeps a penny I would be amazed. It may not have been announced yet, but I would expect all of it to go into the various charities he supports.
When it does, perhaps one of them can send you the (h)umble pie you will be eating.
posted on 21/1/16
comment by Maяcо (U1329)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think it is more to do with giving fans the chance to give him a decent send off than anything else. Last season was a damp squib of a send off at the final game of the season, as everyone was so miserable at our sudden decline.
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...as opposed to the raucous merriment currently barely contained within that hallowed ground?
posted on 21/1/16
comment by Peeder (U1684)
posted 6 minutes ago
Good grief 666, show some compassion man!
His knee was wrecked whilst giving his all for us; we paid him what his existing contract stipulated was due to him; he showed tremendous spirit to work his way back from a very bad injury; he set up a charitable foundation whilst injured ... and you still feel fit to kick him in the goolies!
Where does it say he will pocket all the money raised? It doesnt!
If he keeps a penny I would be amazed. It may not have been announced yet, but I would expect all of it to go into the various charities he supports.
When it does, perhaps one of them can send you the (h)umble pie you will be eating.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It doesn't say that he won't pocket the money either and, as discussed above, there's been ample opportunity to do so and to dress it as a charity match which would have been less divisive.
Try to remember that he wasn't just injured playing for us, he was injured whilst being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds to do a job with considerably less risk than many others do for considerably less reward.
posted on 21/1/16
666, The 'ins and outs' of this matter are there to be debated. It was simply the question WHY you should think to object to this act of charity in the first place.
I agree, on the whole, Barker has been treated very generously over a case where he was physically wrecked in the name of beating Nottingham Forest, which left him in no position to continue to earn his living from football.
Nobody admires more than I do, Jake's never give up and unstinting attitude towards playing for Derby County. If he no longer fits within club's plans, I hope he gets a decent transfer to continue his football career. But there is no question that he is finished as a footballer and he will go on to prove a huge boon to another club. Now that Burton Albion ,under the astute management of Nigel Clough look like making the Championship, he could do worse than make a move in that direction.
posted on 21/1/16
The question of 'Why?' is because testimonials are awarded for outstanding service, generally of a decade+, and Barks didn't come close.
The club has done far and away more than most others would in the same position already so by all means schedule a charity match, I just don't think Barker has any claim to anything more from DCFC or its fans.
posted on 21/1/16
Thought twice about nibbling on such mizerly bait, but I might have well have my minute's wriggle before the priest comes down.
I should imagine that the proceeds made from the testimonial will probably go towards his foundation, which appears to have taken much of his time & effort since his career-ending injury.
Barks gave good service to this club and is putting a lot back into the area. He is a Ram at heart and deserves support. We are quick to criticise the lack of loyalty of others and then we wonder why.
The only thing to say is that if you don't want to contrubute, don't go !
But you might actually see more former Rams and more stars that you will see when the famous Man U visit us.
And all for the price of 666's tip to his pizza delivery boy
Right, off to work....
posted on 21/1/16
Peeder, it pains me to say it but I agree with 666
"Compassion" is a bit strong a word to use, don't you think? He didn't lose his leg above the knee FFS.
posted on 21/1/16
I think the extension of Barker's contract and the testimonial are to hide the guilt the club feels about not having arranged his insurance properly before he was injured. If we want to sign decent players we have to be seen to be caring about their welfare.
posted on 21/1/16
'As well as the testimonial game a number of other events are planned for Barker's testimonial year, full details of which will be confirmed in due course.
Tickets for the testimonial match are £10 for Adults and £5 for Concessions. A Family Ticket (consisting of x2 Adults and x2 Children) costs £20.'
No mention whatsoever of charity or his foundation.
posted on 21/1/16
..............but if all the money raised does go to some worthwhile charity, then fair-play, but why call it a testimonial?
in some ways this thread reminds me of where I served my time. At Christmas, some long-serving wrinkly worker would come round rattling a collection box for the boss's present!!!!!!!!! The fact that they had worked there for 40-odd years (when there was only maybe five employees initially), and now it was a 500+ worker strong behemoth didn't seem to register. I, (having a reputation to keep up), always declined the tempataion to put a shilling in said box, (and was probably marked-down as a Commie for evermore)?
posted on 21/1/16
Can we buy him? We love an injured player.
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