The season isn't over

The Arsenal boards aspirations reaches as high as reaching the CL for the next season, but no higher.

im afraid were stuck with wenger a while yet......people think hes doing a good job......coming 4th every year and getting knocked out of europe in the 1st round proper..arsenal are going backwards we were a better set up 20 years ago......were an easy touch now...

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If you finish 2nd or 3rd you'll have punched above your weight and exceeded expectations

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
The season isn't over
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Even ozil agrees that the season is over. Wenger got his knickers in a twist over that. And all these were long before vardy drove the nail in earlier today.

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
If you finish 2nd or 3rd you'll have punched above your weight and exceeded expectations
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Regardless of where we finish Leicester finishing above us (when we had a good chance of winning the EPL is punching at our regular weight at best.

comment by fredi tha man (U20651)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
The season isn't over
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Even ozil agrees that the season is over. Wenger got his knickers in a twist over that. And all these were long before vardy drove the nail in earlier today.
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Our season ends on May 15th

Leicester have nothing to do with rating your season though, It's irrelevant

Last chance to win the league? Why?

Leicester were bottom of the league this time last year. So by your logic every single team in the league have failed and every single manager should be sacked as they all had better teams right?

Leicester will win the league because they have been superior to every other team not just Wenger. They are on course to finish in eighties thats not due to arsenals failures that due to their success.

Should spurs sack their manager at end of the season? they have afterall got the top scorer in their team yet still couldnt win a single trophy

Yes, we don't give up supporting the team until the last game of the season but in terms of expectation our season is over, simples!

I'm a United fan but have long been a defender of Winger. He's done a brilliant job and qualifying for the CL every year when you were financially hamstrung by the stadium repayments is an incredible achievement, let alone what he did beforehand.

But I do think now is probably the time for a change. Arsenal are now in a position from which they can win league titles and go further in Europe. The personnel is there, the financial structure is there but the frailties remain. And a new man is needed to alter that perpetual cycle imo.

this is perfect country for wenger now...out of the title race pathetic in the cl for the 200th year running...and that all important 4th spot trophy to play for...so at the end of the season he can say how great he is....and how the mental strength saw them through...

comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 8 seconds ago
I'm a United fan but have long been a defender of Winger. He's done a brilliant job and qualifying for the CL every year when you were financially hamstrung by the stadium repayments is an incredible achievement, let alone what he did beforehand.

But I do think now is probably the time for a change. Arsenal are now in a position from which they can win league titles and go further in Europe. The personnel is there, the financial structure is there but the frailties remain. And a new man is needed to alter that perpetual cycle imo.
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what a load of crap if your a manc then im a romanian...as a united fan wenger was great he always came 2nd to sir alex...

comment by arsene wengbottler (U20940)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 8 seconds ago
I'm a United fan but have long been a defender of Winger. He's done a brilliant job and qualifying for the CL every year when you were financially hamstrung by the stadium repayments is an incredible achievement, let alone what he did beforehand.

But I do think now is probably the time for a change. Arsenal are now in a position from which they can win league titles and go further in Europe. The personnel is there, the financial structure is there but the frailties remain. And a new man is needed to alter that perpetual cycle imo.
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what a load of crap if your a manc then im a romanian...as a united fan wenger was great he always came 2nd to sir alex...
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You sound like a manc

Whilst I think Wenger should go given the context of the past 10 years and especially the way we have mentally crumbled this season - I think that Wenger will see the last year of his contract out - but the board should be acting now to put in place a successor to work on Arsenal, 'The Arsenal Way' - that is sustained success. My worry is that if we get a new manager in this year, and he comes 5th - there will be even more clamour from the fans to get rid of him- thus starting a cycle we have seen at Man U. Fans say they will be content with 5th / 6th for a couple of years whilst the new guy rebuilds - but the reality is that media and fans want success now. Not in two years. Unfortunately that luxury of being given time afforded to Fergie , Wenger etc. is from a different era, and so the decision of transition will have to be managed carefully.

He beat Sir Alex to three league titles. I highly doubt that you are a genuine Arsenal fan though. More likely an obnoxious parody. Well done, very original

I don't think the board see our way OP.

Tickets sell out every week. More PL money next season, CL money secured(if we finish above 4th).

Kroenke will think, why risk that? He has other interests outside of football that take up his time and money. Arsenal is a great and relatively safe investment with Wenger in charge.

Wenger isn't going to move to another club, it's Arsenal or retirement and he doesn't want to retire. If anything a contract extension must be agreed. He will hope he can sign a 'top player' that can buy him some time from the fans.

This season's campaign was a farce. The summer transfer window. The comical CL performances but slightly worse than average PL campaign. I predicted 75pts(a typical top three finish) for this squad but we won't even get that.

We're not a modern day big club, at management level. They don't run the club to win trophies. Kroenke bought Arsenal to eventually take money out of the club or borrow against. The board take their salaries and leave the decision making to Arsene. Arsene does what he wants at the pace he wants. The fans pay for it all. That is what Arsenal FC is about in 2016.

The fans would all have to organise a massive protests to bring change at the club(The type the fans want). Arsenal fans are too placid to do anything yet.

comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 10 minutes ago
Last chance to win the league? Why?

Leicester were bottom of the league this time last year. So by your logic every single team in the league have failed and every single manager should be sacked as they all had better teams right?

Leicester will win the league because they have been superior to every other team not just Wenger. They are on course to finish in eighties thats not due to arsenals failures that due to their success.

Should spurs sack their manager at end of the season? they have afterall got the top scorer in their team yet still couldnt win a single trophy
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You completely miss certain key factors here. Wenger has been at Arsenal for two decades, and has been rebuilding the team for the last 11 years, whilst Ranieri has been at Leicester for 10 months. When will Wenger's re-building finally end? Wenger has a bottomless pit of financial resources, whilst Ranieri is operating on a shoestring budget. Of course I do not blame Wenger for the circus at Arsenal - I fully blame a toothless board who are easily impressed with his endless nonsense and even tell him he has a job for life at the club. At any other top club Wenger would have been sacked years ago, no wonder he won't leave for another club because no other club will put up with his stupid experiments.

Leicester's success is not so much a yardstick for other clubs' success or failures (although the rest of the league should learn a lot from it), but it's a huge indictment on Wenger's failure in the last decade when he could have absolutely and easily bossed the league. Ranieri's success has also smashed the nonsensical myth that there are no managers out there good enough to replace Wenger.

Wenger was great when he first joined us and very successful. The Invincibles season was his best ever. Then he and Arsenal decided to move to a new big money spinning stadium. Wenger did well to keep us competitive during this period with CL football every season and we are in the new stadium with money in the bank.

The problem is Wenger is happy keeping £100m in the bank rather than address obvious and crucial weaknesses in the team like a new CF. He is also too stubborn to address other issues like DM and CB deficiencies, or adding physically strong players to the team. Its the failure to address issues when the money is available that is the biggest question mark over Wenger. Maybe its his fault or the club, since David Dein left, are not able to get transfer deals done. Either way things need to change. The combination of Gazidis and Wenger is not working in the same way as the Wenger and Dein one.

Yeah I didn't allude to that but I do think the economist in Wenger holds Arsenal back

fredi
Wenger is going to extend his contract mate

comment by The~Distinguished~Englishman (U4080)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I don't think the board see our way OP.

Tickets sell out every week. More PL money next season, CL money secured(if we finish above 4th).

Kroenke will think, why risk that? He has other interests outside of football that take up his time and money. Arsenal is a great and relatively safe investment with Wenger in charge.

Wenger isn't going to move to another club, it's Arsenal or retirement and he doesn't want to retire. If anything a contract extension must be agreed. He will hope he can sign a 'top player' that can buy him some time from the fans.

This season's campaign was a farce. The summer transfer window. The comical CL performances but slightly worse than average PL campaign. I predicted 75pts(a typical top three finish) for this squad but we won't even get that.

We're not a modern day big club, at management level. They don't run the club to win trophies. Kroenke bought Arsenal to eventually take money out of the club or borrow against. The board take their salaries and leave the decision making to Arsene. Arsene does what he wants at the pace he wants. The fans pay for it all. That is what Arsenal FC is about in 2016.

The fans would all have to organise a massive protests to bring change at the club(The type the fans want). Arsenal fans are too placid to do anything yet.
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dont watch them...wengers not worth it....when he clears off I will be back contributing to this great club..in the meantime im just hoping that wenger will just dissapear into the sunset.

comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 48 minutes ago
Wenger was great when he first joined us and very successful. The Invincibles season was his best ever. Then he and Arsenal decided to move to a new big money spinning stadium. Wenger did well to keep us competitive during this period with CL football every season and we are in the new stadium with money in the bank.

The problem is Wenger is happy keeping £100m in the bank rather than address obvious and crucial weaknesses in the team like a new CF. He is also too stubborn to address other issues like DM and CB deficiencies, or adding physically strong players to the team. Its the failure to address issues when the money is available that is the biggest question mark over Wenger. Maybe its his fault or the club, since David Dein left, are not able to get transfer deals done. Either way things need to change. The combination of Gazidis and Wenger is not working in the same way as the Wenger and Dein one.
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comment by The~Distinguished~Englishman (U4080)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
I don't think the board see our way OP.

Tickets sell out every week. More PL money next season, CL money secured(if we finish above 4th).

Kroenke will think, why risk that? He has other interests outside of football that take up his time and money. Arsenal is a great and relatively safe investment with Wenger in charge.

Wenger isn't going to move to another club, it's Arsenal or retirement and he doesn't want to retire. If anything a contract extension must be agreed. He will hope he can sign a 'top player' that can buy him some time from the fans.

This season's campaign was a farce. The summer transfer window. The comical CL performances but slightly worse than average PL campaign. I predicted 75pts(a typical top three finish) for this squad but we won't even get that.

We're not a modern day big club, at management level. They don't run the club to win trophies. Kroenke bought Arsenal to eventually take money out of the club or borrow against. The board take their salaries and leave the decision making to Arsene. Arsene does what he wants at the pace he wants. The fans pay for it all. That is what Arsenal FC is about in 2016.

The fans would all have to organise a massive protests to bring change at the club(The type the fans want). Arsenal fans are too placid to do anything yet.
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been saying this a couple of years now..."trophies" are an awesome side product that just..."happens", there is quite frankly zero desire to "win" in the Arsenal setup for 2016..and beyond! (This explains the utter negligence of a high level manager refusing to buy a single outfield player in the off season!)....the sooner the average fan (not the raving sycophants who know themselves) recognize this unfortuntae reality the better it will be for them