Amazing that it has even come to this.
He should have been removed 3 years ago at least as it has been obvious to anyone that whatever he had has long since left him and the club needed fresh ideas.
I think he'll sign a new contract.
Unless next season he excels. I'm not sure even he could do that tbh if nobody is with him and his best players want to leave he won't have it in him to rebuild again but of course he's stubborn so you never know.
But I just have a sneaky feeling maybe he could go, hope I'm right tbh although it'd be sad to end this way, no sympathy is deserved
Yep, great article. People often talk about Wenger´s tactical issues, namely; inability to build a defence and lack of directness in his teams´ forward play, these are fair criticisms but I think what´s really finished Wenger, and what has changed from when he first joined, is that he´s lost his hunger for success. A manager of his status and at the stage of his career he was at should never have accepted the restraints the board put on him and his team post 2005.
The way I see it, his love of being Arsenal manager is greater than his desire for success and, as admirable and touching as that might be to some, it´s absolutely no good to fans who want to see Arsenal winning major honours. The softness people talk about in Arsenal comes from Wenger. He´s seemed to want to build a community of friends at Arsenal rather than a fierce, tough competitive environment. He´s taken too many prisoners, persisted with too many average players, avoided buying top talent to protect the flaky squad members he already has.
For me Wenger is a great guy, but the day he stopped being a winner was the day he disqualified himself from being an elite manager. Arsenal have more than paid their debt for the loyalty Arsene showed during the difficult years of transition. I´ve said it for the last 5 seasons now so I can only begin to understand the frustration of some supporters here. Arsene's done, he cannot deliver what Arsenal fans want of him, this season especially has been like watching a once elite prize-fighter being beaten by plucky rookie after plucky rookie, it's been depressing. I just hope, for everyone at Arsenal´s sake, that this season the penny has finally dropped .
comment by ♤WengersNearlyMen♤ (U5041)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
I think he'll sign a new contract.
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I think your right......if hes not sacked he will just carry on..he thinks hes doing a good job...he couldnt care less what anybody else thinks..to him 4th spot is success......
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Fans create a poisoness atmosphere
Any poisoness atmosphere on match day isn't down to the 10% of actual fans in the Emirates. It's the 90% of corporate bellends and big day out tourists that have been cherry picked by the board to fill the ground at ridiculous prices. Thus the board are accountable for our completely dire and mute atmosphere.
Wenger to go and the board to follow.
OP, you may be foolish enough to hace been fooled by "a strong finish" last year in your opinion but a lot of us werent. A seasons performance is judged over the whole season and if you are foolish enough to think a short spell at the end of the season is enough to convince you that thi gs arw changing thats up to you.
So many on here only look at the short term.Players form like Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, etc and when its good say theyre the best and when they are poor we must sell them. The view needs to be taken over the long term to allow for peaks and troughs. Then you start to get their true value.
Wengers past it though imo.
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
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we are not spoilt mate, we pay the highest season ticket prices in the world. We are told we have X amount of money to spend each year and we barely spend anything.
Everyone and i mean everyone apart from Wenger knows we needed a new CB, DM and CF for how many season as we are still asking for these players.
The football brand we play is quite frankly the biggest load of bo llocks i hav ever seen.
Wenger success was build on Powerful quick players and hes moves to this shower of chit model for some daft reason.
Our wage bill is lets face it pathetic. 140k for walcott, 80k per Wilshere, Oxlade, ect.
U19211 does have a valid point. Not having the board blamed either. There are more than enough proper Arsenal fans in the Emirates to make a hell of a noise. The problem has been that for about ten years now, those fans have only wanted to cheer when we're winning.
There's no, "get behind the team" defiance from Gooners if we go under the kosh at home. Just silence. It's a disgusting embarrassment to the club that Stoke's ground holds half as many fans but they make twice as much noise as we can.
So it's not just a new manager and board we need. It's the end of the fairweather fans holding season tickets. You either cheer no matter what or be forced to give up your season ticket for one of the thousands on waiting lists whom will be happy to do so.
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He has a year left on his contract and he won't be going anywhere until that year is up.
comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
Stopped being a winner
two FA CUPS in last two seasons
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
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Now your just being silly
comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 13 hours, 33 minutes ago
Stopped being a winner
two FA CUPS in last two seasons
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
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Arsene went from delivering Premier League trophies every other year and genuine progress in the CL, coming a whisker away from winning it in 2006, to a team which has won 2 FA Cups in the space of 11 years and is now constantly eliminated in the first knock out stage of Europe's elite competition. Wenger has won domestic cups recently, yes, but so has Martinez and Laudrup, does that make them winners too? If you´re an Arsenal fan you expect more.
As to blaming the crowd, I think that´s a pretty weak response. If you want to see spoilt fans, look no further than Real Madrid, white flags, booing after scoring double figures, it hasn´t stopped them from winning major honours recently, so let´s forget that nonsense shall we...
Arsenal´s problem is that they´ve accepted mediocrity. Arsene´s problem is that he allowed himself to become representative of that mediocrity. The need for a change has long since been on the horizon.
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posted on 18/4/16
Amazing that it has even come to this.
He should have been removed 3 years ago at least as it has been obvious to anyone that whatever he had has long since left him and the club needed fresh ideas.
posted on 18/4/16
I think he'll sign a new contract.
posted on 18/4/16
Unless next season he excels. I'm not sure even he could do that tbh if nobody is with him and his best players want to leave he won't have it in him to rebuild again but of course he's stubborn so you never know.
But I just have a sneaky feeling maybe he could go, hope I'm right tbh although it'd be sad to end this way, no sympathy is deserved
posted on 18/4/16
Yep, great article. People often talk about Wenger´s tactical issues, namely; inability to build a defence and lack of directness in his teams´ forward play, these are fair criticisms but I think what´s really finished Wenger, and what has changed from when he first joined, is that he´s lost his hunger for success. A manager of his status and at the stage of his career he was at should never have accepted the restraints the board put on him and his team post 2005.
The way I see it, his love of being Arsenal manager is greater than his desire for success and, as admirable and touching as that might be to some, it´s absolutely no good to fans who want to see Arsenal winning major honours. The softness people talk about in Arsenal comes from Wenger. He´s seemed to want to build a community of friends at Arsenal rather than a fierce, tough competitive environment. He´s taken too many prisoners, persisted with too many average players, avoided buying top talent to protect the flaky squad members he already has.
For me Wenger is a great guy, but the day he stopped being a winner was the day he disqualified himself from being an elite manager. Arsenal have more than paid their debt for the loyalty Arsene showed during the difficult years of transition. I´ve said it for the last 5 seasons now so I can only begin to understand the frustration of some supporters here. Arsene's done, he cannot deliver what Arsenal fans want of him, this season especially has been like watching a once elite prize-fighter being beaten by plucky rookie after plucky rookie, it's been depressing. I just hope, for everyone at Arsenal´s sake, that this season the penny has finally dropped .
posted on 18/4/16
comment by ♤WengersNearlyMen♤ (U5041)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
I think he'll sign a new contract.
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I think your right......if hes not sacked he will just carry on..he thinks hes doing a good job...he couldnt care less what anybody else thinks..to him 4th spot is success......
posted on 18/4/16
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posted on 18/4/16
Fans create a poisoness atmosphere
Any poisoness atmosphere on match day isn't down to the 10% of actual fans in the Emirates. It's the 90% of corporate bellends and big day out tourists that have been cherry picked by the board to fill the ground at ridiculous prices. Thus the board are accountable for our completely dire and mute atmosphere.
Wenger to go and the board to follow.
posted on 18/4/16
OP, you may be foolish enough to hace been fooled by "a strong finish" last year in your opinion but a lot of us werent. A seasons performance is judged over the whole season and if you are foolish enough to think a short spell at the end of the season is enough to convince you that thi gs arw changing thats up to you.
So many on here only look at the short term.Players form like Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, etc and when its good say theyre the best and when they are poor we must sell them. The view needs to be taken over the long term to allow for peaks and troughs. Then you start to get their true value.
Wengers past it though imo.
posted on 18/4/16
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
------
we are not spoilt mate, we pay the highest season ticket prices in the world. We are told we have X amount of money to spend each year and we barely spend anything.
Everyone and i mean everyone apart from Wenger knows we needed a new CB, DM and CF for how many season as we are still asking for these players.
The football brand we play is quite frankly the biggest load of bo llocks i hav ever seen.
Wenger success was build on Powerful quick players and hes moves to this shower of chit model for some daft reason.
Our wage bill is lets face it pathetic. 140k for walcott, 80k per Wilshere, Oxlade, ect.
posted on 18/4/16
U19211 does have a valid point. Not having the board blamed either. There are more than enough proper Arsenal fans in the Emirates to make a hell of a noise. The problem has been that for about ten years now, those fans have only wanted to cheer when we're winning.
There's no, "get behind the team" defiance from Gooners if we go under the kosh at home. Just silence. It's a disgusting embarrassment to the club that Stoke's ground holds half as many fans but they make twice as much noise as we can.
So it's not just a new manager and board we need. It's the end of the fairweather fans holding season tickets. You either cheer no matter what or be forced to give up your season ticket for one of the thousands on waiting lists whom will be happy to do so.
posted on 18/4/16
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posted on 18/4/16
He has a year left on his contract and he won't be going anywhere until that year is up.
posted on 18/4/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
Stopped being a winner
two FA CUPS in last two seasons
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
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Now your just being silly
posted on 18/4/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 13 hours, 33 minutes ago
Stopped being a winner
two FA CUPS in last two seasons
Problem is your fans got spoilt and now act like babies every yr you don't win anything
Fans have been very bit as much to blame as the team this season, you create a poisoness atmosphere and wonder why players don't perform ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arsene went from delivering Premier League trophies every other year and genuine progress in the CL, coming a whisker away from winning it in 2006, to a team which has won 2 FA Cups in the space of 11 years and is now constantly eliminated in the first knock out stage of Europe's elite competition. Wenger has won domestic cups recently, yes, but so has Martinez and Laudrup, does that make them winners too? If you´re an Arsenal fan you expect more.
As to blaming the crowd, I think that´s a pretty weak response. If you want to see spoilt fans, look no further than Real Madrid, white flags, booing after scoring double figures, it hasn´t stopped them from winning major honours recently, so let´s forget that nonsense shall we...
Arsenal´s problem is that they´ve accepted mediocrity. Arsene´s problem is that he allowed himself to become representative of that mediocrity. The need for a change has long since been on the horizon.
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