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You're assuming that he would leave Leicester - I'd put everything that I own on the fact that he wouldn't
Who would he start over? Alderweireld is arguably the best CB in the league, Vertonghen is arguably the best CB at bringing the ball out from the back.
He a good defender but im 100% sure if he played for Spurs or Arsenal at least half of them Handballs he did would have been called by the refs. If seemed like only he is allowed to come out with his hands flopping like flipper to block the ball.
If your hands are by yourside it shoud never be a pen but he was blocking shots like Kasper. Dont care if he was 2-3 yards away.
No for me too. It would be an absolute certainty that if he turned up at WHL, he would overnight turn into an absolute donkey. And anyway he would not be able to just wellie and hoof the the ball anywhere, the Spurs fans would soon be on his back.
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
Not gonna leave lesta....but yeah I'd take him...you don't need every player to be super smooth on the ball.......!!!!
A bit of row Z wld do us fine at times it wld certainly save my ticker.....
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team
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Same
I still think that we should have kept the Toby - Wimmer partnership, purely because it was doing so well and there was no footballing reason to break it up and bring Vertonghen straight back in.
The point of competition for places is that when someone comes in, if they do well they stay there. I think it was the wrong message to give out to Wimmer that you came in, did exceptionally well, but you're still going to be benched as soon as Jan is back
I think the issue was that Verts was in the middle of contract talks & maybe it was thought he might not sign if he did not get straight back in?
I do like Verts & that is why I have touted for him as a DM, think he might just surprise a few people on here
Sorry, meant to say I felt very sorry for Kevin that he was dropped after such a good spell in the team
A year ago I'd have said you were mad Greaves, but then seeing how well Dier made the transition, I'm happy for anything to be tried out!
It was tough on Wimmer to be dropped but he did show some signs of inexperience and being rash and maybe that's why Poch put Vertonghen back in. In the end all players ended up being rash.
If you think about it, Wimmer was not part of the madness over the last several games and puts him in a better light than most of the first team.
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
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Eric is 22 - so at relatively early stage of career for position change. Also didn't he occasionally play cm for sporting? Agree that we didn't see him playing at cm. I certainly didn't see him there and was cross with levy that we didn't sign a specialised cdm when we clearly needed one. Shows you what I know!
Jan is 29 - Jan reportedly used to get upset being used as a LB as he see himself as cb. I am not convinced he is mobile enough to play cm.
I think that Kevin and Toby will be our strongest CB pairing in due course. But Jan is a class act.
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comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
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Eric is 22 - so at relatively early stage of career for position change. Also didn't he occasionally play cm for sporting? Agree that we didn't see him playing at cm. I certainly didn't see him there and was cross with levy that we didn't sign a specialised cdm when we clearly needed one. Shows you what I know!
Jan is 29 - Jan reportedly used to get upset being used as a LB as he see himself as cb. I am not convinced he is mobile enough to play cm.
I think that Kevin and Toby will be our strongest CB pairing in due course. But Jan is a class act.
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I'd also take Huth but am sure he's not going anywhere
Stay with what we have in the CB department. Concentrate on what we are short of and expect that, at some point, we will get the occasional stomping Newcastle handed out. Its the Spurs way.
Why would he want to come to the third best team in the prem.!!
We waited for you, but at the end of the season you just werent there!!
No chance. We play a completely different style of football. Whilst hoofing the ball upfield and fouling people constantly might be the order of the day over there, we like our defenders to be comfortable on the ball and actually defend without the need for persistent shirt-pulling, bear hugs and elbows.
Like you did against Chelsea !!
"It would be an absolute certainty that if he turned up at WHL, he would overnight turn into an absolute donkey."
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He /is/ an absolute donkey. But we don't require him to play football. You like your possession football, and you want your centre backs to be able to play. We've played all season in such a way that Huth only needs to do what he feels comfortable doing on the ball, which is very little. If threatened, hoof it and we'll deal with that. Our other defenders can play a bit - Morgan's no John Stones but he's not as bad on the ball as people think. But even he's under no obligation to recycle possession efficiently - we've played some good, exciting football in the opposition half (believe me or not; I suspect you won't but we don't do tippy-tappy around the back in order to get there. Morgan and Huth are primarily there to clear, block, throw themselves at crosses, get in the way and, on occasion, let attackers "know that they're there". (See Troy Deeney's column for the BBC a couple of months back.) And they've both been bl**dy effective at it for the last 6 or 7 months.
All in all, has he been a good player for us? You bet. Would he be a good player for you? Assuming you want to keep playing the same style you do, hell no. That's precisely why Mark Hughes let him leave Stoke a year ago. Would he want to go anyway? Can't see it.
Think our CBs our fine. Huth is a great player but defending with Leicester's style of play is a lot easier. He's no better than any of our CB or potential CB (Deir)
The way we play (and im not saying its the way I LIKE to play, but how Poch DOES play, we need our CBs to be relatively quick and agile, comfortable with ball at feet, and able to essentially become the fullbacks in phases of play.
Huth is none of the above
If you want a prime example of the outcome if we tried it, look no further than Fazio. He would probably do ok in Leicester's back four. Wheareas Toby would probably play as a RB for them.
Too slow, too old, is a thug and uses illegal tactics to gain an advantage (which he would not get away with playing for Spurs)
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posted on 18/5/16
You're assuming that he would leave Leicester - I'd put everything that I own on the fact that he wouldn't
posted on 18/5/16
Who would he start over? Alderweireld is arguably the best CB in the league, Vertonghen is arguably the best CB at bringing the ball out from the back.
posted on 18/5/16
Start over Vertonghen
posted on 18/5/16
He a good defender but im 100% sure if he played for Spurs or Arsenal at least half of them Handballs he did would have been called by the refs. If seemed like only he is allowed to come out with his hands flopping like flipper to block the ball.
If your hands are by yourside it shoud never be a pen but he was blocking shots like Kasper. Dont care if he was 2-3 yards away.
posted on 18/5/16
No for me too. It would be an absolute certainty that if he turned up at WHL, he would overnight turn into an absolute donkey. And anyway he would not be able to just wellie and hoof the the ball anywhere, the Spurs fans would soon be on his back.
posted on 18/5/16
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
posted on 18/5/16
Not gonna leave lesta....but yeah I'd take him...you don't need every player to be super smooth on the ball.......!!!!
A bit of row Z wld do us fine at times it wld certainly save my ticker.....
posted on 18/5/16
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team
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Same
I still think that we should have kept the Toby - Wimmer partnership, purely because it was doing so well and there was no footballing reason to break it up and bring Vertonghen straight back in.
The point of competition for places is that when someone comes in, if they do well they stay there. I think it was the wrong message to give out to Wimmer that you came in, did exceptionally well, but you're still going to be benched as soon as Jan is back
posted on 18/5/16
I think the issue was that Verts was in the middle of contract talks & maybe it was thought he might not sign if he did not get straight back in?
I do like Verts & that is why I have touted for him as a DM, think he might just surprise a few people on here
posted on 18/5/16
Sorry, meant to say I felt very sorry for Kevin that he was dropped after such a good spell in the team
posted on 18/5/16
A year ago I'd have said you were mad Greaves, but then seeing how well Dier made the transition, I'm happy for anything to be tried out!
posted on 18/5/16
It was tough on Wimmer to be dropped but he did show some signs of inexperience and being rash and maybe that's why Poch put Vertonghen back in. In the end all players ended up being rash.
If you think about it, Wimmer was not part of the madness over the last several games and puts him in a better light than most of the first team.
posted on 18/5/16
Honestly?
No
posted on 18/5/16
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
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Eric is 22 - so at relatively early stage of career for position change. Also didn't he occasionally play cm for sporting? Agree that we didn't see him playing at cm. I certainly didn't see him there and was cross with levy that we didn't sign a specialised cdm when we clearly needed one. Shows you what I know!
Jan is 29 - Jan reportedly used to get upset being used as a LB as he see himself as cb. I am not convinced he is mobile enough to play cm.
I think that Kevin and Toby will be our strongest CB pairing in due course. But Jan is a class act.
posted on 18/5/16
comment by MP's ejército azul y blanco (U5500)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch & The Belgian Revolution! (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Not really our type of player is he
I must admit I was very impressed with Wimmer when he came into the team & thought he and Toby looked solid. I do think Verthongen is an excllent player, however I think Wimmer is a better defender.
My thinking would be to utilise Verts in a DM role alongside Dier at times. I know a lot of you don't think this would work, however we never saw Eric at DM either, did we?
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Eric is 22 - so at relatively early stage of career for position change. Also didn't he occasionally play cm for sporting? Agree that we didn't see him playing at cm. I certainly didn't see him there and was cross with levy that we didn't sign a specialised cdm when we clearly needed one. Shows you what I know!
Jan is 29 - Jan reportedly used to get upset being used as a LB as he see himself as cb. I am not convinced he is mobile enough to play cm.
I think that Kevin and Toby will be our strongest CB pairing in due course. But Jan is a class act.
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I'd also take Huth but am sure he's not going anywhere
posted on 18/5/16
Stay with what we have in the CB department. Concentrate on what we are short of and expect that, at some point, we will get the occasional stomping Newcastle handed out. Its the Spurs way.
posted on 18/5/16
Why would he want to come to the third best team in the prem.!!
We waited for you, but at the end of the season you just werent there!!
posted on 18/5/16
No chance. We play a completely different style of football. Whilst hoofing the ball upfield and fouling people constantly might be the order of the day over there, we like our defenders to be comfortable on the ball and actually defend without the need for persistent shirt-pulling, bear hugs and elbows.
posted on 18/5/16
Like you did against Chelsea !!
posted on 18/5/16
"It would be an absolute certainty that if he turned up at WHL, he would overnight turn into an absolute donkey."
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He /is/ an absolute donkey. But we don't require him to play football. You like your possession football, and you want your centre backs to be able to play. We've played all season in such a way that Huth only needs to do what he feels comfortable doing on the ball, which is very little. If threatened, hoof it and we'll deal with that. Our other defenders can play a bit - Morgan's no John Stones but he's not as bad on the ball as people think. But even he's under no obligation to recycle possession efficiently - we've played some good, exciting football in the opposition half (believe me or not; I suspect you won't but we don't do tippy-tappy around the back in order to get there. Morgan and Huth are primarily there to clear, block, throw themselves at crosses, get in the way and, on occasion, let attackers "know that they're there". (See Troy Deeney's column for the BBC a couple of months back.) And they've both been bl**dy effective at it for the last 6 or 7 months.
All in all, has he been a good player for us? You bet. Would he be a good player for you? Assuming you want to keep playing the same style you do, hell no. That's precisely why Mark Hughes let him leave Stoke a year ago. Would he want to go anyway? Can't see it.
posted on 18/5/16
Good post
posted on 18/5/16
Think our CBs our fine. Huth is a great player but defending with Leicester's style of play is a lot easier. He's no better than any of our CB or potential CB (Deir)
posted on 18/5/16
The way we play (and im not saying its the way I LIKE to play, but how Poch DOES play, we need our CBs to be relatively quick and agile, comfortable with ball at feet, and able to essentially become the fullbacks in phases of play.
Huth is none of the above
If you want a prime example of the outcome if we tried it, look no further than Fazio. He would probably do ok in Leicester's back four. Wheareas Toby would probably play as a RB for them.
posted on 18/5/16
Too slow, too old, is a thug and uses illegal tactics to gain an advantage (which he would not get away with playing for Spurs)
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