comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
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We get it, you don't like football anymore.
Now you see that big button on your telly? Probably near the bottom right corner, got a light near it? For feck's sake press it, then do the same thing on your phone, pad, laptop & PC and give the rest of us a fecking break.
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Oh forgive me, i thought this was a forum for debate.
And headed goals are "proper" goals.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
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So you're saying teams should be seeded based on previous tournament performance, rather than their performance in qualifying?
You seem to want a closed shop at football. Unhappy that someone different won the title and now unhappy that smaller nations have legitimately qualified for the Euros (even though they would have done so in the old system).
Still seems like sour grapes to me.
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I want teams to earn it, the world cup and euros worked on the elitest system for decades and decades and it worked great, now we are worried about money so we get these expanded shows where quality is lacking.
Don't see what benefit we get from teams with zero pedigree getting a pass.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
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So you're saying teams should be seeded based on previous tournament performance, rather than their performance in qualifying?
You seem to want a closed shop at football. Unhappy that someone different won the title and now unhappy that smaller nations have legitimately qualified for the Euros (even though they would have done so in the old system).
Still seems like sour grapes to me.
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I want teams to earn it, the world cup and euros worked on the elitest system for decades and decades and it worked great, now we are worried about money so we get these expanded shows where quality is lacking.
Don't see what benefit we get from teams with zero pedigree getting a pass.
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So you do want it to be a closed shop? Iceland and Austria shouldn't be there even though they qualified legitimately and would have qualified under the old systems?
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 3 minutes ago
And headed goals are "proper" goals.
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That's a good point. Perhaps Iceland and Austria scored too many headed goals in qualifying.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Oh forgive me, i thought this was a forum for debate.
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Debate?!?!?! Don't talk such rubbish, you don't want to debate you want to moan.
How many of these dross games have you actually sat and watched?
If the number is low you aren't in a position to comment let alone debate, if the number is high then how much of a mug are you for watching something you seem to hate?
Go and point your phone at some bugs or comment on a sport that has dancing girls and points scored every 3.4 seconds. It'll all be over in a couple weeks and you can go back to moaning, sorry "debating" about Wolves
And so ja606 descends into the usual bolloks because someone has an alternate opinion.
If you guys think teams finishing third in bleedin qualifying groups and then finishing third in the tournament group are somehow 'earning' their place then you have lost your mind.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 6 seconds ago
And so ja606 descends into the usual bolloks because someone has an alternate opinion.
If you guys think teams finishing third in bleedin qualifying groups and then finishing third in the tournament group are somehow 'earning' their place then you have lost your mind.
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Iceland and Austria didn't finish third in qualifying. Neither did Albania for that matter (I guess you don't want them there either).
So you want it to be a closed shop?
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 17 minutes ago
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
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5 teams finishing third in qualifying are in this tournament.
comment by Tino79 - Proud owner of a bona fide apology from Sunny - easily a bigger achievement than winning a preds league (U2087)
posted 12 minutes ago
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
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Albania finished ahead of Denmark, Serbia and Armenia.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
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The groups are actually drawn using the UEFA coefficients, not FIFA rankings.
What would you suggest? No seeding? You could still end up with the same group. I'm sure it would still be a farce to you anyway.
Besides, that's not what you originally said. You said that teams like Iceland, Austria and Hungary shouldn't be there as Scotland had won more tournament games than all of them. Then said something about teams with pedigree (obviously Scotland weren't included in that comment).
Perhaps there should be only 2 teams qualifying, then we wouldn't have to put up with everything that goes on before the final.
Or maybe only one team, so we could do away with the tournament altogether!
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tino79 - Proud owner of a bona fide apology from Sunny - easily a bigger achievement than winning a preds league (U2087)
posted 12 minutes ago
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
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Albania finished ahead of Denmark, Serbia and Armenia.
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Probably meant Turkey.
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 17 minutes ago
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
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5 teams finishing third in qualifying are in this tournament.
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No, they didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Qualified_teams
The teams in the play offs finished third Tatts.
Fail to see how the likes of Wales, Northern Ireland, Albania haven't enhanced the tournament. Played well, given the more established nations a real test and thousands of people from those nations have enjoyed the experience of following their teams in the competition. How is any aspect of that a negative?
If the only teams that should be allowed to be n a competition are those that might win it, then Greece shouldn't have been in it when they won it, and no way should Leicester have been in the Premier League last season
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
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The groups are actually drawn using the UEFA coefficients, not FIFA rankings.
What would you suggest? No seeding? You could still end up with the same group. I'm sure it would still be a farce to you anyway.
Besides, that's not what you originally said. You said that teams like Iceland, Austria and Hungary shouldn't be there as Scotland had won more tournament games than all of them. Then said something about teams with pedigree (obviously Scotland weren't included in that comment).
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No, I said they all shouldn't be in the same group given they have zero pedigree.
I think the ranking at tournaments should be based on past efforts as it was for a long long time.
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 13 minutes ago
Perhaps there should be only 2 teams qualifying, then we wouldn't have to put up with everything that goes on before the final.
Or maybe only one team, so we could do away with the tournament altogether!
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Yet another tediously dumb comment.
How about just 16 teams like I have already said.
How about just 2, like I have already said?
This is a forum for debate!
Because as usual it is your pathetic efforts at ridicule.
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posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We get it, you don't like football anymore.
Now you see that big button on your telly? Probably near the bottom right corner, got a light near it? For feck's sake press it, then do the same thing on your phone, pad, laptop & PC and give the rest of us a fecking break.
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Oh forgive me, i thought this was a forum for debate.
posted on 21/6/16
And headed goals are "proper" goals.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you're saying teams should be seeded based on previous tournament performance, rather than their performance in qualifying?
You seem to want a closed shop at football. Unhappy that someone different won the title and now unhappy that smaller nations have legitimately qualified for the Euros (even though they would have done so in the old system).
Still seems like sour grapes to me.
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I want teams to earn it, the world cup and euros worked on the elitest system for decades and decades and it worked great, now we are worried about money so we get these expanded shows where quality is lacking.
Don't see what benefit we get from teams with zero pedigree getting a pass.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
That group is a farce, how three teams that haven't featured at a euros or indeed a world cup in decades can all end up in the same group is ridiculous.
Not to mention the draw for the qualifying groups being a joke in themselves and all these draws being based on the nonsensical FIFA rankings.
And none of that even covers the outrageous advantage of a team finishing second and then having two extra days rest as a reward.
All inevitable of course, you water down a tournament and dilute the quality you get this shambolic crap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you're saying teams should be seeded based on previous tournament performance, rather than their performance in qualifying?
You seem to want a closed shop at football. Unhappy that someone different won the title and now unhappy that smaller nations have legitimately qualified for the Euros (even though they would have done so in the old system).
Still seems like sour grapes to me.
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I want teams to earn it, the world cup and euros worked on the elitest system for decades and decades and it worked great, now we are worried about money so we get these expanded shows where quality is lacking.
Don't see what benefit we get from teams with zero pedigree getting a pass.
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So you do want it to be a closed shop? Iceland and Austria shouldn't be there even though they qualified legitimately and would have qualified under the old systems?
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 3 minutes ago
And headed goals are "proper" goals.
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That's a good point. Perhaps Iceland and Austria scored too many headed goals in qualifying.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
Oh forgive me, i thought this was a forum for debate.
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Debate?!?!?! Don't talk such rubbish, you don't want to debate you want to moan.
How many of these dross games have you actually sat and watched?
If the number is low you aren't in a position to comment let alone debate, if the number is high then how much of a mug are you for watching something you seem to hate?
Go and point your phone at some bugs or comment on a sport that has dancing girls and points scored every 3.4 seconds. It'll all be over in a couple weeks and you can go back to moaning, sorry "debating" about Wolves
posted on 21/6/16
And so ja606 descends into the usual bolloks because someone has an alternate opinion.
If you guys think teams finishing third in bleedin qualifying groups and then finishing third in the tournament group are somehow 'earning' their place then you have lost your mind.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 6 seconds ago
And so ja606 descends into the usual bolloks because someone has an alternate opinion.
If you guys think teams finishing third in bleedin qualifying groups and then finishing third in the tournament group are somehow 'earning' their place then you have lost your mind.
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Iceland and Austria didn't finish third in qualifying. Neither did Albania for that matter (I guess you don't want them there either).
So you want it to be a closed shop?
posted on 21/6/16
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
posted on 21/6/16
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
posted on 21/6/16
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 17 minutes ago
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
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5 teams finishing third in qualifying are in this tournament.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tino79 - Proud owner of a bona fide apology from Sunny - easily a bigger achievement than winning a preds league (U2087)
posted 12 minutes ago
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
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Albania finished ahead of Denmark, Serbia and Armenia.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
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The groups are actually drawn using the UEFA coefficients, not FIFA rankings.
What would you suggest? No seeding? You could still end up with the same group. I'm sure it would still be a farce to you anyway.
Besides, that's not what you originally said. You said that teams like Iceland, Austria and Hungary shouldn't be there as Scotland had won more tournament games than all of them. Then said something about teams with pedigree (obviously Scotland weren't included in that comment).
posted on 21/6/16
Perhaps there should be only 2 teams qualifying, then we wouldn't have to put up with everything that goes on before the final.
Or maybe only one team, so we could do away with the tournament altogether!
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tino79 - Proud owner of a bona fide apology from Sunny - easily a bigger achievement than winning a preds league (U2087)
posted 12 minutes ago
in defence of Albania they qualified ahead of the dutch if that doesn't warrant a place then I have no idea what would
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Albania finished ahead of Denmark, Serbia and Armenia.
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Probably meant Turkey.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 17 minutes ago
Only 1 3rd placed team qualified - Turkey.
The expansion from 16 teams to 24 means one thing - more football.
If more football equals worse to you then, and I may have mentioned this idea previously, turn ya fecking telly off and go outside.
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5 teams finishing third in qualifying are in this tournament.
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No, they didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Qualified_teams
posted on 21/6/16
The teams in the play offs finished third Tatts.
posted on 21/6/16
Fail to see how the likes of Wales, Northern Ireland, Albania haven't enhanced the tournament. Played well, given the more established nations a real test and thousands of people from those nations have enjoyed the experience of following their teams in the competition. How is any aspect of that a negative?
If the only teams that should be allowed to be n a competition are those that might win it, then Greece shouldn't have been in it when they won it, and no way should Leicester have been in the Premier League last season
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Former KoP champion, 2x HC+DG champion, officially paid for being here-----$326 (U11551)
posted about a minute ago
I want it to be a 16 team tournament without all of this third place nonsense we have seen in qualifying and now in the final tournament.
It rewards mediocrity and purely exists for financial reasons.
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So Austria and Iceland should be there and it isn't a farce that they are, like you previously claimed?
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That group is a farce because it exists thanks to FIFA's ranking system, something I know for a fact you have mocked in the past.
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The groups are actually drawn using the UEFA coefficients, not FIFA rankings.
What would you suggest? No seeding? You could still end up with the same group. I'm sure it would still be a farce to you anyway.
Besides, that's not what you originally said. You said that teams like Iceland, Austria and Hungary shouldn't be there as Scotland had won more tournament games than all of them. Then said something about teams with pedigree (obviously Scotland weren't included in that comment).
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No, I said they all shouldn't be in the same group given they have zero pedigree.
I think the ranking at tournaments should be based on past efforts as it was for a long long time.
posted on 21/6/16
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 13 minutes ago
Perhaps there should be only 2 teams qualifying, then we wouldn't have to put up with everything that goes on before the final.
Or maybe only one team, so we could do away with the tournament altogether!
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Yet another tediously dumb comment.
How about just 16 teams like I have already said.
posted on 21/6/16
How about just 2, like I have already said?
This is a forum for debate!
posted on 21/6/16
Because as usual it is your pathetic efforts at ridicule.
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