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posted on 3/6/16

comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
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bluebell

Good evening.
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Evening Shin.

If I was still drinking, I would raise a glass with you buddyπŸ˜€

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Kung fu

Evening mate.....summer is hereπŸ˜€

I read your piece on sharia law, but how does that sit with the liberal, secular UK buddy?
Different folk living under religous based law, in a nation where church and state are mostly separate?
We are basically christian,mixed with secular liberal values, and three million muslims live freely here, happy to be British, so why promote sharia law at all?
The vast majority of Ukmuslim folk have no time for extremism or fundamentalism, and would adherence to sharia islamic law not create a gap between us all, and among different muslim groups, and young progressive muslims too.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 40 seconds ago
KFC-I'm sure you'd be happier living in another country, do you like anything about Britain? You seem to hate everything that makes Britain Britain. The fact you see no wrong in British Muslims wanting to live under Sharia law proves to me you're not really British you were just born here.
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First of all, prayer, charity, not breaking the law in a non Islamic nation, a womans right to divorce, religious freedom and protecting the country you live in is all Sharia.

So yes I do believe that Muslims where ever they are should live under Sharia.

Sharia also dictates that Muslims should respect the laws of the non Islamic country they live in.

Allah says: “Oh you who believe! Fulfill (your) obligations.” [Sûrah al-Mâ’idah: 1]

He also says: “And fulfill (every) covenant. Verily! The covenant will be questioned about.” [Sûrah al-Isrâ': 34]

He says: “And fulfill the Covenant to Allah when you have covenanted, and break not the oaths after you have confirmed them.” [Sûrah al-Nahl: 91]

A Muslim is not to break or violate oaths or promises. He will not be a true faithful Muslim if he does so. Allah Said: “It is not the case that every time they make a covenant, some party among them throws it aside. Nay! The truth is most of them believe not.” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 100]

Among the characteristics of a hypocrite is that he: “…acts treacherously toward covenants (pledges), and when entrusted he betrays.”

It's in your best interest that Muslims comply by Sharia law.

Try actually read up on what you are critical about, if you had an ounce of sincerity when confronting Islamic teachings you would undoubtedly be less aggressive towards it.


Things I love about Britain? I will give you my top 5.

The majority of people here are kind hearted and tolerant.

London, is one of the greatest cities in the world and beautiful because of the mixture of ideologies, cultures and religions, people just seem to get on without a problem.

The NHS.

The fact that patriotism isn't a big deal (not as much as the USA anyway) to most people. If they think the country is doing something wrong or has done something wrong people will speak out. The millions that marched against the Iraq war and the millions that think that Tony Blair is a war criminal is proof of that.

It's one of a small bunch of countries in the world that gives you a chance to achieve particular dreams because of good natured and charitable individuals. (I'm not talking about the opportunities people have here because of aggressive capitalism that takes advantage of poorer nations)


You don't have to bum off the royal family to be British, the fact that you like them makes you anti British. Like i said before, a British a value is that everybody is born equal.

Try and be consistent.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sharia-courts-in-britain-lock-women-into-marital-captivity-study-says-a6761141.html

That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.

This is a genuine question, Is there any Islamic countries that allow other faiths to hold their own courts?

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That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
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Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation

posted on 3/6/16

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
Kung fu

Evening mate.....summer is hereπŸ˜€

I read your piece on sharia law, but how does that sit with the liberal, secular UK buddy?
Different folk living under religous based law, in a nation where church and state are mostly separate?
We are basically christian,mixed with secular liberal values, and three million muslims live freely here, happy to be British, so why promote sharia law at all?
The vast majority of Ukmuslim folk have no time for extremism or fundamentalism, and would adherence to sharia islamic law not create a gap between us all, and among different muslim groups, and young progressive muslims too.


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I don't what your mind set is but you are conflating Sharia with extremism.

Something that used to be rare until certain media entities started peddling lies about what Sharia is.

There isn't a problem with Sharia in Britain because it's Sharia that dictates to Muslims that they should obey the law (British law)

Further more the secularism allows me to practise certain parts of Sharia, for example prayer and charity. 2.5% of my wages must be given to charity every year on top of what ever else I have given.

If I was married and had a divorced, my ex wife would keep all of her money and belongings and take half of mine.

I wouldn't have to go through a lengthy and costly court case to who gets what.

None of this gets in the way of following British law and I would argue enhances it not contradicts it.

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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
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Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
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Exactly and I don't think he has clocked on that the people that are keeping the NHS propped up are immigrants.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
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Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
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Tory policy, poor administration, mass influx of people, lack of local people going into nursing all make the Nhs weak and strained.

Not always just a tory or immigration alone thang.

posted on 3/6/16

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/beware-of-immigration-say-the-british-expats-enjoying-sunny-spain-10167638.html

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/british-expat-in-spain-calls-for-brexit-bemoans-high-immigration-in-uk--bJ8_VzRLJb

British immigrants in Spain who fail to integrate and learn the language complaining about immigrants in England who fail to integrate and learn the language.

Brilliant.

posted on 3/6/16

Amir Khan born and bred in Britain wants to fight for Pakistan. I could understand if he was some second rate footballer who wants to play international football, but why turn your back on the country that raised you? That typifies your average British born South Asian.

posted on 3/6/16

The majority of British Immigrants in Spain aren't asking to be housed, educated and treated when sick at the expense of the indigenous population though.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 2 minutes ago
Amir Khan born and bred in Britain wants to fight for Pakistan. I could understand if he was some second rate footballer who wants to play international football, but why turn your back on the country that raised you? That typifies your average British born South Asian.
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He's a second rate boxer whats the difference?

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
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Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
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Exactly and I don't think he has clocked on that the people that are keeping the NHS propped up are immigrants.
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Of course people from abroad help the nhs, but massive numbers coming in also create problems...logic.

Why do we do this in debates, and I did not say sharia law is extremist, but rather likely to create an us and them scenario.I was careful to say not all muslims would want sharia, and young progressive muslims may want a liberal British lifestyle, not a strict religous one.
We are mainly non religous now, and christian with a small c, but by promoting a separate sharia law system, religion will become an issue.
All over Europe, far right nationalist groups grow due to muslim migration, so is it wiseto push sharia law forward, if we want integration and social cohesion.
As racists would say, if you want muslim laws, there are muslim countries.This is not a muslim country.

I would say this about any faith group wanting separate laws and rules, be they sikh, hindu, jewish, catholic, or right wing christian.

Europe spent centuries fighting about religion and muslims are going through this period now, with sunni v shia, and radical v secular.

In the future, muslim people will look back on this era and wonder what the fuss was, as christians have done.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
--------------------------------------------
Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory policy, poor administration, mass influx of people, lack of local people going into nursing all make the Nhs weak and strained.

Not always just a tory or immigration alone thang.
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There used to be 3 hospitals within a 20 mile radius of where i live, now there's one, 16 miles away (my wife works there as a nurse), and that closes it's doors regularly because it simply can't accommodate the amount of people that rely on it.

This isn't down to immigration or lack of Local Nurses, there's plenty of local nurses work there along with quite a lot of filipino nurses too. It's down to lack of investment and farming out of services to private companies.

But don't despair, cos soon you'll be able to get from London to Birmingham in 49 mins

Tories

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comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 11 minutes ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/beware-of-immigration-say-the-british-expats-enjoying-sunny-spain-10167638.html

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/british-expat-in-spain-calls-for-brexit-bemoans-high-immigration-in-uk--bJ8_VzRLJb

British immigrants in Spain who fail to integrate and learn the language complaining about immigrants in England who fail to integrate and learn the language.

Brilliant.
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No offence kung fu, but you do seem to dislike us brits😁

I saw uk folk in Spain who have holiday homes in Spain saying they were for brexit, whereas those living there were remain, strangely.
I interview brits who came home from Spain if their business fails as their benifit system is crap.

Vast majority of brits take money and skills to Spain, and do not strain their I frastructure, lke immirants here, who fill dole queues, hospitals and housing waiting lists, often with no English or ability to find work.
I work in Dwp and recent arrivals, rather than what we term white british, are claiming benefit in massive numbers.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
--------------------------------------------
Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory policy, poor administration, mass influx of people, lack of local people going into nursing all make the Nhs weak and strained.

Not always just a tory or immigration alone thang.
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There used to be 3 hospitals within a 20 mile radius of where i live, now there's one, 16 miles away (my wife works there as a nurse), and that closes it's doors regularly because it simply can't accommodate the amount of people that rely on it.

This isn't down to immigration or lack of Local Nurses, there's plenty of local nurses work there along with quite a lot of filipino nurses too. It's down to lack of investment and farming out of services to private companies.

But don't despair, cos soon you'll be able to get from London to Birmingham in 49 mins

Tories
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Fair play....and I am no tory.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 17 minutes ago
Amir Khan born and bred in Britain wants to fight for Pakistan. I could understand if he was some second rate footballer who wants to play international football, but why turn your back on the country that raised you? That typifies your average British born South Asian.
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Your last sentence typifies the average little Britain bigot.

Zionist Jews fight for the the terrorist "IDF" all the time and they are welcomed back to England.

Do you have issue with them as well.

You talk about patriotism but wasn't it the zionists who blew up the King David hotel killing Brits, didn't terrorist zionist groups like the Irgun kill British police officers and soldiers.

Or is that allowed?

All that you have said since the Sharia comment have been rooted in an anti Muslim anti Islam mentality.

If he has citizenship in both countries then he is allowed to fight for who he wants, even if i think he's a rightTwat for fighting for either country.

There is a country on the planet I would pick up a rifle for, Islamic or non Islamic because all I would be doing is fighting for politicians and corporations.

It would have to take an enemy at the border for me to get up. No more illegal wars.

posted on 3/6/16

There isn't a country on the planet I would pick up a rifle for

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There isn't a country on the planet I would pick up a rifle for
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So you're a conchy,no big deal,plenty of others will defend the country for you.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
--------------------------------------------
Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
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Exactly and I don't think he has clocked on that the people that are keeping the NHS propped up are immigrants.
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I don't think you've clocked on to the fact we wouldn't need as many foreign medical staff if it wasn't for the mass influx of immigrants.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
There isn't a country on the planet I would pick up a rifle for
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So you're a conchy,no big deal,plenty of others will defend the country for you.
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Who are we defending the country against, that we have alliterated the middle east and turned it into a giant mass grave?

Like I said I would defend this nation if there was an enemy at the border. You obviously chose to ignore that comment.

Carry on supporting illegal wars that actually create more extremists.

posted on 3/6/16

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
That NHS you love so much is going to shiitt because of uncontrolled EU migration. If we open our boarders to every fecker like you want we won't have an NHS.
--------------------------------------------
Tory cuts are the reason the NHS is going to $hit, it's a systematic dismantling exercise by the party of privatisation
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Exactly and I don't think he has clocked on that the people that are keeping the NHS propped up are immigrants.
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I don't think you've clocked on to the fact we wouldn't need as many foreign medical staff if it wasn't for the mass influx of immigrants.
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I've clocked on that immigrants have made this country richer not poorer and not just financially.

Stop buying bombers and start funding public services.

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