Doesn't really matter as long as we pick up momentum from here on.

If we draw (or god forbid lose) to Wales in the next match, the pressure will be immense. Could England manage to fail to qualify from a group it's almost impossible not to get out of?

comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 1 minute ago
If we draw (or god forbid lose) to Wales in the next match, the pressure will be immense. Could England manage to fail to qualify from a group it's almost impossible not to get out of?
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I was confident before but Hedgehogson is managing to sap the confidence out of me.

There's a lot of potential in this England team, but also a number of problems. I've been thinking about it since last night and part of the issue is a lack of leadership on the field. Look back to the 1990s and see how many leaders we had (Pearce, Shearer, Platt, Adams, Ince to name but a few). Where were the leaders yesterday? I'm not a fan of him, but taking Rooney off was a mistake when defending a slender lead.

Once again I think we will embarrass ourselves by exiting at the second round or before.

As usual we will play really good football and dominate games against some of the dross of Europe only to fail to win them because Roy can't figure out how to utilise the talents of Kane, Vardy and Sturridge

Sterling will play every game and keep getting worse until Jordan Henderson makes his customary appearance

A 90th minute Bale headed winner and England are out of it, the scenes

comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's a lot of potential in this England team, but also a number of problems. I've been thinking about it since last night and part of the issue is a lack of leadership on the field. Look back to the 1990s and see how many leaders we had (Pearce, Shearer, Platt, Adams, Ince to name but a few). Where were the leaders yesterday? I'm not a fan of him, but taking Rooney off was a mistake when defending a slender lead.
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A lack of leadership isn't the reason we lost yesterday. Shiiit finishing and a clueless sub lost us the match. The team needs better finishers on the pitch. Lallana as good as he may have played is dreadful at finishing. Sterling too is dreadful at finishing. Milner and Henderson the same. If Kane has a poor game like last night and Rooney is playing deep, then we're going to struggle for goals when these crap finishers are on the pitch. Vardy/Sturridge/Rashford will have to be involved more against the stronger teams you feel.

If England go out then the fault with lies with the Tottenham bottlers that make up the squad.

We also don't seem to beat teams by a 2+ goal margin in tournaments. The last 2 tournaments we failed to do this. In 2006 World Cup we beat Trinidad and Tobago 2-0 but that wasn't actually a fair reflection on the game as they had many chances. Euro 2004 we had 2 very good convincing wins against Switzerland and Croatia.

It's also Milners fault yesterday, when he came on he did faaack all, he had all the energy yet somehow let's someone skip past him and whip a dangerous cross in! Don't know why people have an obssession with him when he is slow, offers nothing going forward, allegedly is supposed to be good defensively but where was that yesterday? I've said for many years he shouldn't be anywhere near the England team. Roy has an issue with pacey wingers too. Apart from Sterling there is no one else, don't know why Roy is so opposed to the idea!

Not sure what Roy sees in Sterling. He is useless!

Hodgson always takes shocking squads to tournaments. The players that help qualify for the tournament under Hodgson just get scrapped like Carrick. Its amazing he helps England qualify for tournaments and then gets scrapped for some nobody who barely shown half decent form for a month or the same old guard who come fit.

If you look at the 11 that played. Hart won something in his career. Smalling and Cahill won something in career, the big titles along with Hart. Rose won nothing. Walker won nothing. Rooney won lots of trophies. Dier won nothing. Alli won nothing. Sterling won league cup. Kane won nothing. Lallana won FLT.

Even since Sven-Göran Eriksson left, England have picked average players and expect to do well Their is a reason why Roy Hodgson has 1 win at an international tournament and he is in his 3rd campaign. Picking players who don't deserve to go. Its astonishing Henderson, Wilshere, Sturridge all crooked go but consistent performers like Carrick and Lingard don't go.

Henderson one of the worst players I have seen at shooting goes tells you everything you need to know despite being injured for ages. Shaw played more then Wilshere last season and Shaw was fit similar time to Henderson and Wilshere after end of season but Henderson and Wilshere has allowances made.

The last 15 tournaments (since I was born)

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you old caaant

He has got two wins Hafi, Sweden and Ukraine at the 2012 UEFA European Championship.