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posted on 13/6/16

comment by Whyalwaysme (U9900)
posted 2 minutes ago
How come US authorities don't bring strict laws on buying guns/ammunition for civilians?
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35261394

posted on 13/6/16

comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole thing is hilarious.Hillary might actually thump him at the polls.
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Except that the majority of independent voters (not aligned to either of the 2 major parties) are firmly against what Obama has done and see a vote for Clinton as a vote for more of the same.

A lot of these independent voters are willing to vote for Trump, not because they want him to win but because they don't want Clinton to win.
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what is an independent voter

There is no such you moron. Talk demographics, its the most reliable thing to gauge opinion polls. You anology is the same stupid anology fox news used to say Obama would not be relected and see what happened.

Use demographics you child, Hispanics, Blacks, young voters, new voters that will give you a clear picture of the challenge Trump faces.

So what if 30% of the US electorate is fed up with Obama, it still doesnt mean Trump will win if he is polling badly in other demographics.

posted on 13/6/16

posted on 13/6/16

How come US authorities don't bring strict laws on buying guns/ammunition for civilians?
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didn't stop them in paris or london or madrid

posted on 13/6/16

Robben Chief (U1145) & What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)

Thanks guys.

posted on 13/6/16

comment by Whyalwaysme (U9900)
posted 1 minute ago
Robben Chief (U1145) & What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)

Thanks guys.
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It's ridiculous that they cling on to such outdated legislature. It's akin to colonialism! Madness.

posted on 13/6/16

I agree, when would they realize ?? simply unbelievable.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 13/6/16

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 5 minutes ago
How come US authorities don't bring strict laws on buying guns/ammunition for civilians?
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didn't stop them in paris or london or madrid
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I don't think these places have a mass shooting every day.

posted on 13/6/16

I came across this on FB so don't know authenticity but,

UK had 7 shooting massacres since 1849 whilst US had 5 or 6 in last 6 months or so....

posted on 13/6/16

comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole thing is hilarious.Hillary might actually thump him at the polls.
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Except that the majority of independent voters (not aligned to either of the 2 major parties) are firmly against what Obama has done and see a vote for Clinton as a vote for more of the same.

A lot of these independent voters are willing to vote for Trump, not because they want him to win but because they don't want Clinton to win.
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what is an independent voter

There is no such you moron.
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You fυсkіng moron try reading my comment again.

An independent voter in US is a voter not aligned to either of the 2 main parties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_(voter)

If you're going to call somebody names at least get your facts right you ргісk.

posted on 13/6/16

never understood why the clause in the 2nd amendment about a well regulated militia is (from a legal viewpoint) just ignored, and it is treated as a blanket right to bear arms in all circumstances.

but ironic that americans will pour scorn on beliefs based on religious texts from 100s/1000s of years ago, but derive a lot of legal rights from a document drawn up in a very different period - when "arms" meant a bow and arrow or a frequently misfiring musket, rather than something that can fire 1000 rounds a minute.

and it's not even an absolute right as it is - plastic guns are already banned. why are bazookas not considered "arms"? or nuclear bombs?

posted on 13/6/16

Use demographics you child, Hispanics, Blacks, young voters, new voters that will give you a clear picture of the challenge Trump faces.
So what if 30% of the US electorate is fed up with Obama
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White people are the majority of the electorate, not 30%. Trump does have big demographic challenges, but if he pulls in enough of the white working class vote, he has a significant chance. Many of the white people that are traditionally Democrats across the Midwest are pulling for Trump. The polls are very tight at this moment. As far as the popular vote, it's very tight. What is in favour of Clinton is the weird electoral map system which is heavily skewed to big states that vote Democrat.

posted on 13/6/16

Robben Chief

It’s not just the right to bear arms however – that BBC link details how the NRA have been able to bring in further legislation to safeguard/underpin the 2nd amendment.

Obama made a number of executive orders (laws made by the president which side-steps congress) in an effort to improve the situation. However I suspect when he goes, Trump or Clinton will annul these making gun control even more negligent.

posted on 13/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 46 seconds ago
Robben Chief

It’s not just the right to bear arms however – that BBC link details how the NRA have been able to bring in further legislation to safeguard/underpin the 2nd amendment.

Obama made a number of executive orders (laws made by the president which side-steps congress) in an effort to improve the situation. However I suspect when he goes, Trump or Clinton will annul these making gun control even more negligent.
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Clinton is strongly against the guns laws, moreso than Obama possibly, but she along with all the others will do nothing about it as the NRA hold a huge amount of power.

posted on 13/6/16

The problem is that those guns are still in the system... it's too late really. Obviously the withdrawal of sale will help, but the existing guns will go underground...

posted on 13/6/16

People get upset with uncle Donald and try to ban him entering the country, but don't blink an eyelid when New London mayor Kahn is seen shaking hands with terrorist sympathisers and calling all liberal Muslims who try to intergrate "Uncle Toms".

Too many liberal cucks in the country.

posted on 13/6/16

I'm sure that 'The Carlyle Group' and it's advisers still carry some weight as far as gun control is concerned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carlyle_Group#Notable_employees_and_advisors

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posted on 13/6/16

comment by Vic Mackey...It aint easy being greasy (U19237)
posted 31 minutes ago
People get upset with uncle Donald and try to ban him entering the country, but don't blink an eyelid when New London mayor Kahn is seen shaking hands with terrorist sympathisers and calling all liberal Muslims who try to intergrate "Uncle Toms".

Too many liberal cucks in the country.
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Living in NI I am only too aware of the effects of terrorism. Alienating a race/country (which Trump accomplishes very well) only spreads hate and further divides. His proposed (banning) Muslim rhetoric is exactly what ISIS want, and feeds directly into their propaganda.

In regard to Khan the Tory smear campaign (leading up to the mayoral elections) spectacularly backfired, and regardless of political opinion Khan has accomplished more in the last few weeks than Boris achieved in his entire period as Mayor.

posted on 13/6/16

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Use demographics you child, Hispanics, Blacks, young voters, new voters that will give you a clear picture of the challenge Trump faces.
So what if 30% of the US electorate is fed up with Obama
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White people are the majority of the electorate, not 30%. Trump does have big demographic challenges, but if he pulls in enough of the white working class vote, he has a significant chance. Many of the white people that are traditionally Democrats across the Midwest are pulling for Trump. The polls are very tight at this moment. As far as the popular vote, it's very tight. What is in favour of Clinton is the weird electoral map system which is heavily skewed to big states that vote Democrat.
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I am not saying 30% constitutes the white population, all Im saying is just because Obama seems unpopular among certain white folk does not mean the tide is in Trumps favour. Everytime something negative happens for the current govt people think Trump automatically gains massive ground.Its a lot more complex than that which is explained by the electoral system.

Despite his charisma and popularity in 2008 Obama won the election over Mccain by tapping into voting demographics that traditionally did not go to the polls.Most white folk liked him but were unlikely to vote for him in the polling booth, probably because of his colour or his muslim name.

This demographic came big for Obama in the relection.If clinton taps into it she will win. Trump cant sway mexicans, blacks or any other minorities because of the rhetoric he has used in the primaries.his only hope is the white people who traditional vote democrat either vote for him (unlikely) or they stay away from the polls.

I had doubt Hillary could beat Trump, but with every passing day I am seeing that in a national race Trumps numbers simply wont add up

posted on 13/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Vic Mackey...It aint easy being greasy (U19237)
posted 31 minutes ago
People get upset with uncle Donald and try to ban him entering the country, but don't blink an eyelid when New London mayor Kahn is seen shaking hands with terrorist sympathisers and calling all liberal Muslims who try to intergrate "Uncle Toms".

Too many liberal cucks in the country.
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Living in NI I am only too aware of the effects of terrorism. Alienating a race/country (which Trump accomplishes very well) only spreads hate and further divides. His proposed (banning) Muslim rhetoric is exactly what ISIS want, and feeds directly into their propaganda.

In regard to Khan the Tory smear campaign (leading up to the mayoral elections) spectacularly backfired, and regardless of political opinion Khan has accomplished more in the last few weeks than Boris achieved in his entire period as Mayor.
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You are a deluded fool who is clearly left wing and so wont admit Khan is already breaking his election campaign promises. I have travelled to London regularly for work meetings for 20 years and since Boris became mayor it felt like London got a lot cleaner and there was less of a threatening atmosphere. He literally and metaphorically cleaned up the streets.

I havent been since Khan became mayor but do know his promise that Londoners would not pay a penny more for travel was a lie. He is now saying that single tickets paid for at the time of travel wont go up. Oyster, travel cards, ,etc will not be included and that is exactly how most Londoners pay so his election promise was complete BS.

posted on 13/6/16

buzz off !!! USA is a dangerous country. I'd love for us to dump all of our criminals onto England so that you can treat them with the dignity and politeness that they so richly deserve.

Packing a piece does not mean you'll ever use it, it just adds to the general deterrence level. Some people are just going to go postal and go on spree shootings. It's just the way things are today. At the very least, a concealed carry holder could potentially stop a spree shooter from harming more people than otherwise, but if guns were removed then it would be knives that are used.

Regardless, the first amendment is the first amendment

posted on 13/6/16

2nd amendment***

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