You facking fackety fack fack.
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comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
Underrated:
Hart
Coutinho
Martial
Corzorla
Overrated:
Ozil
Rooney
Eriksen
Mata
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Why is Coutinho underrated?
He gets quite a bit of praise despite not delivering much throughout his career.
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
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That probably explains it then. Probably a faction of non German arsenal fans bashing the Ozil button
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
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They weren't genuine playmakers.
Maradona was a destructive forward, often playing out wide. Even though he often played in the number 10 spot, he was a scorer and all-round attacker.
Pele often played the 10 position but he was always a scorer. Would never describe him as a playmaker.
Cruyff similar to Maradona. A forward.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
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They weren't genuine playmakers.
Maradona was a destructive forward, often playing out wide. Even though he often played in the number 10 spot, he was a scorer and all-round attacker.
Pele often played the 10 position but he was always a scorer. Would never describe him as a playmaker.
Cruyff similar to Maradona. A forward.
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OK, I've read it all now.
We cannot have a discussion about playmakers if you don't know what a playmaker is.
comment by Tu Meke Santi (U3732)
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
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That probably explains it then. Probably a faction of non German arsenal fans bashing the Ozil button
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I voted for Ozil at least 5 times in the last vote
He still won it twice before joining us though and deserved it all 4 years he won it.
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
Underrated.
Reid
Lloris
Van Dyck
Antonio
Azpilicueta
Overrated.
Fabregas
Bolasie
Vertonghen
Sterling
Sakho (l,pool)
Walcott
Ozil isn't as good a playmaker as Bergkamp was, who wouldn't be in my top 5 playmakers to play in the last 10 to 15 years. Lads wumming, like normal. What a queen.
comment by cheshamfox (U2001)
posted 12 minutes ago
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
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All playmakers. And all very good ones.
Not wumming.
Ozil's assist titles:
German league 09-10
Europa League 09-10
World Cup 2010
Champions league 10-11
Spanish league 11-12
Euro 2012
Premier League 15-16
His chances created tally over the last 8 seasons combined is miles ahead of anyone else in the major leagues.
Michel Platini is the greatest playmaker ever
Overrated
Walker
Rose
Henderson
Milner
Alli
Lukaku
Underrated
Antonio
Mane
Cazorla
Fosu
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There's no such thing as an underrated PL footballer.
comment by cheshamfox (U2001)
posted 18 hours, 20 minutes ago
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
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Even Arsenal fans must be able see Ozil isn't fit to lace Bergkamp's boots, never mind the rest you've mentioned. Or Liam Brady's for that matter.
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posted on 19/6/16
You facking fackety fack fack.
posted on 19/6/16
That list is back to front
posted on 19/6/16
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
Underrated:
Hart
Coutinho
Martial
Corzorla
Overrated:
Ozil
Rooney
Eriksen
Mata
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Why is Coutinho underrated?
He gets quite a bit of praise despite not delivering much throughout his career.
posted on 19/6/16
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
posted on 19/6/16
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
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That probably explains it then. Probably a faction of non German arsenal fans bashing the Ozil button
posted on 19/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
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They weren't genuine playmakers.
Maradona was a destructive forward, often playing out wide. Even though he often played in the number 10 spot, he was a scorer and all-round attacker.
Pele often played the 10 position but he was always a scorer. Would never describe him as a playmaker.
Cruyff similar to Maradona. A forward.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
Stopped reading at "Ozil... best playmaker of all time."
Better than Cruyff and Maradona?
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They weren't genuine playmakers.
Maradona was a destructive forward, often playing out wide. Even though he often played in the number 10 spot, he was a scorer and all-round attacker.
Pele often played the 10 position but he was always a scorer. Would never describe him as a playmaker.
Cruyff similar to Maradona. A forward.
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OK, I've read it all now.
We cannot have a discussion about playmakers if you don't know what a playmaker is.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Tu Meke Santi (U3732)
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
2011, 12, 13 and 15- think it is the media who vote.
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It's actually a fan vote on the German FA website.
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That probably explains it then. Probably a faction of non German arsenal fans bashing the Ozil button
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I voted for Ozil at least 5 times in the last vote
He still won it twice before joining us though and deserved it all 4 years he won it.
posted on 19/6/16
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
posted on 19/6/16
Underrated.
Reid
Lloris
Van Dyck
Antonio
Azpilicueta
Overrated.
Fabregas
Bolasie
Vertonghen
Sterling
Sakho (l,pool)
Walcott
posted on 19/6/16
Ozil isn't as good a playmaker as Bergkamp was, who wouldn't be in my top 5 playmakers to play in the last 10 to 15 years. Lads wumming, like normal. What a queen.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by cheshamfox (U2001)
posted 12 minutes ago
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
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All playmakers. And all very good ones.
posted on 19/6/16
Not wumming.
Ozil's assist titles:
German league 09-10
Europa League 09-10
World Cup 2010
Champions league 10-11
Spanish league 11-12
Euro 2012
Premier League 15-16
His chances created tally over the last 8 seasons combined is miles ahead of anyone else in the major leagues.
posted on 19/6/16
Michel Platini is the greatest playmaker ever
posted on 19/6/16
Overrated
Walker
Rose
Henderson
Milner
Alli
Lukaku
Underrated
Antonio
Mane
Cazorla
Fosu
posted on 19/6/16
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posted on 19/6/16
There's no such thing as an underrated PL footballer.
posted on 20/6/16
comment by cheshamfox (U2001)
posted 18 hours, 20 minutes ago
How are you defining a playmaker because I'd put players like:
Zidane, Maradona, Zico, Platini, Bergkamp, Totti, Pirlo, maybe Iniesta, Socrates, Xavi even as playmakers and they are all better than Ozil
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Even Arsenal fans must be able see Ozil isn't fit to lace Bergkamp's boots, never mind the rest you've mentioned. Or Liam Brady's for that matter.
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