I guess the only good thing if we do leave it will take a 4 year long process.
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm voting to stay in because of my job prospects and because I don't want change. This whole referendum has been focused on immigration which I agree needs sorting, but it's been massively overplayed.
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I agree with that, the immigration thing doesn't effect me. Like Canerson said here are much more important reasons to want to leave, funnily enough he didn't list them
The leave campaign should have been smart and put a plan of how the future will look if we're to vote out. That's what we really need.
There's a huge difference in voting between age groups. I was at the cricket with my father and friends, all voting leave. These are firefighters and a man on the forces who feel they're getting a raw, raw deal from the government and Osborne.
Did you know firefighters contracts now say you just work until 60 to receive your full pension? Knowing full well not everybody can go on to work office jobs in the service when no longer physically capable to work shifts. Police have a similar issue.
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else.
Living in Cumbria seems the majority up here are voting leave
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
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Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
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Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
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Oh really? Coverage of Wales has been minimal in terms of votes but I thought they worship that Plyd Cymru leader and she's a massive remain.
What the plan if we remain then? Continue to get butt faked by the EU? Will Cameron go to the EU with another set of demands and then stroll back with his tail between his legs again.
comment by Cumbrianpodiatrist (U21038)
posted 2 minutes ago
Living in Cumbria seems the majority up here are voting leave
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What's their reasoning?
I despise the man and his politics, but common sense dictates I vote to remain.
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
People who want to leave can all fack off and jump under a bus
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Pr1ck.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 32 seconds ago
What the plan if we remain then? Continue to get butt faked by the EU? Will Cameron go to the EU with another set of demands and then stroll back with his tail between his legs again.
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Well we already know we get a raw deal from the EU financially. We give anything from £160m-£350m a week, we lose money being in the EU even Camerson doesn't deny this.
His negatiation means we'll save £8m a year, is it even worth it?
Only thing staying means of it shouldn't get too much worse, too quickly.
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
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Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
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Oh really? Coverage of Wales has been minimal in terms of votes but I thought they worship that Plyd Cymru leader and she's a massive remain.
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Maybe but driving through through there the other day was loads of leave signs up around the farms
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
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If you're tired of the lies why vote to remain? The whole remain campaign is dishing out lies about what will happen if we leave. Truth is no one knows. All I know is that Cameron and his chump Osbourne lie all the time.
They dont actually explain anything though.
£350m a week qupted by Leave. Remain say its not that much but dont say how much it is. We pay £250m a week and get about £70m back in rebates to farmers and deprived areas. So £180m a week or £9billionish a year.
If we leave the remain side say we will be £35 a week worse off. They dont say that the same studies show inflation will be lower so the cost of living will be lower. We may or may not be better off in real terms.
Immigration is at 350mish. A recent survey showed 12m Turkish want to move to the UK as soon as they get free movement.
The studies for the remain side say we will be worse off and assume the EU will introduce tariffs on our imports from and exports to the EU from day 1 and it will take 10-15 years to negotiate new trade deals with them and with the rest of the world. Surely we can do better than that.
Neither side has clearly specified what the exit strategy is, will it be immediatly or will it be 10-15 years notice of leaving (to allow time for the worst case scenario for negotiating new tradde deals).
I could go on.....
I think we will be leaving tbh, which is a big shame.
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 48 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
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He's a little extreme but we need more Corbyn's. Honest people who have the people's welfare at heart.
He sees food banks, struggling families, struggling disabled and struggling public services and wants to take from the corporations.
I wouldn't trust him in charge of the county unfortunately, however I trust his heart is in the right place whicj I can't say about anybody else.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
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If you're tired of the lies why vote to remain? The whole remain campaign is dishing out lies about what will happen if we leave. Truth is no one knows. All I know is that Cameron and his chump Osbourne lie all the time.
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Because I feel in terms of my future it's better to remain, and also for the public it's better to remain.
Out out out
Muggy in waaaankers
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 48 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's a little extreme but we need more Corbyn's. Honest people who have the people's welfare at heart.
He sees food banks, struggling families, struggling disabled and struggling public services and wants to take from the corporations.
I wouldn't trust him in charge of the county unfortunately, however I trust his heart is in the right place whicj I can't say about anybody else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Turkey won't be in the EU for ages, if ever.
The timescales for new trade deals have been calculated by looking at the time it's taken for similar deals.
Corbyn has been a euro sceptic all his political career and if he was leader of labour I'm sure he'd be on the leave side
comment by Bunteh - Phil Jones' face (U10372)
posted 12 seconds ago
Turkey won't be in the EU for ages, if ever.
The timescales for new trade deals have been calculated by looking at the time it's taken for similar deals.
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Within 10 years IMO
I guess a lot of people (esp in parts of the north) are just fed up of seeing Cameron's chums like the bankers who were partly guilty for the mess this country is in still make fortunes while the rest of us are told to tighten our belts, couple that with things like the spare bedroom tax and food banks etc etc and maybe people are thinking "time for a change" and using Brexit as some sort of protest at the status quo, those with least to lose probably see it as less of a gamble
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Out out out
Muggy in waaaankers
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Boris Johnson, nigel farage, Nick Griffin and this idiot. Anyone want to join them?
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 45 seconds ago
Corbyn has been a euro sceptic all his political career and if he was leader of labour I'm sure he'd be on the leave side
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Wasn't leader *
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posted on 19/6/16
I guess the only good thing if we do leave it will take a 4 year long process.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm voting to stay in because of my job prospects and because I don't want change. This whole referendum has been focused on immigration which I agree needs sorting, but it's been massively overplayed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with that, the immigration thing doesn't effect me. Like Canerson said here are much more important reasons to want to leave, funnily enough he didn't list them
The leave campaign should have been smart and put a plan of how the future will look if we're to vote out. That's what we really need.
There's a huge difference in voting between age groups. I was at the cricket with my father and friends, all voting leave. These are firefighters and a man on the forces who feel they're getting a raw, raw deal from the government and Osborne.
Did you know firefighters contracts now say you just work until 60 to receive your full pension? Knowing full well not everybody can go on to work office jobs in the service when no longer physically capable to work shifts. Police have a similar issue.
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else.
posted on 19/6/16
Living in Cumbria seems the majority up here are voting leave
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
posted on 19/6/16
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
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Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
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Oh really? Coverage of Wales has been minimal in terms of votes but I thought they worship that Plyd Cymru leader and she's a massive remain.
posted on 19/6/16
What the plan if we remain then? Continue to get butt faked by the EU? Will Cameron go to the EU with another set of demands and then stroll back with his tail between his legs again.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Cumbrianpodiatrist (U21038)
posted 2 minutes ago
Living in Cumbria seems the majority up here are voting leave
--------
What's their reasoning?
posted on 19/6/16
I despise the man and his politics, but common sense dictates I vote to remain.
posted on 19/6/16
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Robb Hodgson (U20351)
posted 1 minute ago
People who want to leave can all fack off and jump under a bus
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Pr1ck.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 32 seconds ago
What the plan if we remain then? Continue to get butt faked by the EU? Will Cameron go to the EU with another set of demands and then stroll back with his tail between his legs again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we already know we get a raw deal from the EU financially. We give anything from £160m-£350m a week, we lose money being in the EU even Camerson doesn't deny this.
His negatiation means we'll save £8m a year, is it even worth it?
Only thing staying means of it shouldn't get too much worse, too quickly.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
London, Wales, Scotland and NI will vote to remain I think. Everywhere else is anyone's guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn't count on Wales as lots of the farmers are voting out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh really? Coverage of Wales has been minimal in terms of votes but I thought they worship that Plyd Cymru leader and she's a massive remain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe but driving through through there the other day was loads of leave signs up around the farms
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're tired of the lies why vote to remain? The whole remain campaign is dishing out lies about what will happen if we leave. Truth is no one knows. All I know is that Cameron and his chump Osbourne lie all the time.
posted on 19/6/16
They dont actually explain anything though.
£350m a week qupted by Leave. Remain say its not that much but dont say how much it is. We pay £250m a week and get about £70m back in rebates to farmers and deprived areas. So £180m a week or £9billionish a year.
If we leave the remain side say we will be £35 a week worse off. They dont say that the same studies show inflation will be lower so the cost of living will be lower. We may or may not be better off in real terms.
Immigration is at 350mish. A recent survey showed 12m Turkish want to move to the UK as soon as they get free movement.
The studies for the remain side say we will be worse off and assume the EU will introduce tariffs on our imports from and exports to the EU from day 1 and it will take 10-15 years to negotiate new trade deals with them and with the rest of the world. Surely we can do better than that.
Neither side has clearly specified what the exit strategy is, will it be immediatly or will it be 10-15 years notice of leaving (to allow time for the worst case scenario for negotiating new tradde deals).
I could go on.....
posted on 19/6/16
I think we will be leaving tbh, which is a big shame.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 48 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's a little extreme but we need more Corbyn's. Honest people who have the people's welfare at heart.
He sees food banks, struggling families, struggling disabled and struggling public services and wants to take from the corporations.
I wouldn't trust him in charge of the county unfortunately, however I trust his heart is in the right place whicj I can't say about anybody else.
posted on 19/6/16
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're tired of the lies why vote to remain? The whole remain campaign is dishing out lies about what will happen if we leave. Truth is no one knows. All I know is that Cameron and his chump Osbourne lie all the time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because I feel in terms of my future it's better to remain, and also for the public it's better to remain.
posted on 19/6/16
Out out out
Muggy in waaaankers
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby(U11781)
posted 48 seconds ago
I think much of the Brexit votes are much of a result as the failure to the people from Cameron and Osborne as anything else
Fully agree with you there Busby, the public are fed up of Cameron's lies. I voted Tories last year and instantly regret it now, they've been lying through their teeth and serving up bolllocks for too long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's a little extreme but we need more Corbyn's. Honest people who have the people's welfare at heart.
He sees food banks, struggling families, struggling disabled and struggling public services and wants to take from the corporations.
I wouldn't trust him in charge of the county unfortunately, however I trust his heart is in the right place whicj I can't say about anybody else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 19/6/16
Turkey won't be in the EU for ages, if ever.
The timescales for new trade deals have been calculated by looking at the time it's taken for similar deals.
posted on 19/6/16
Corbyn has been a euro sceptic all his political career and if he was leader of labour I'm sure he'd be on the leave side
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Bunteh - Phil Jones' face (U10372)
posted 12 seconds ago
Turkey won't be in the EU for ages, if ever.
The timescales for new trade deals have been calculated by looking at the time it's taken for similar deals.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Within 10 years IMO
posted on 19/6/16
I guess a lot of people (esp in parts of the north) are just fed up of seeing Cameron's chums like the bankers who were partly guilty for the mess this country is in still make fortunes while the rest of us are told to tighten our belts, couple that with things like the spare bedroom tax and food banks etc etc and maybe people are thinking "time for a change" and using Brexit as some sort of protest at the status quo, those with least to lose probably see it as less of a gamble
posted on 19/6/16
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Out out out
Muggy in waaaankers
-------
Boris Johnson, nigel farage, Nick Griffin and this idiot. Anyone want to join them?
posted on 19/6/16
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 45 seconds ago
Corbyn has been a euro sceptic all his political career and if he was leader of labour I'm sure he'd be on the leave side
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Wasn't leader *
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