comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 53 seconds ago
If he started digressing and slagging off conservatives and talking in factitious riddles would he be seen as more of a leader?
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According to the tabloids and MP's, yes.
Who cares that he stood up against the Iraq war, he warned on the very consequences we are dealing with today.
Who cares this his thoughts are about the welfare and health system, education and taxing corporations?
All really matters is his silly suit.
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 15 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
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The same PMQ's where he actually asks questions put forward to him by the public?
Who else has done that?
He doesn't get involved with personal attacks, maybe you just want a c*nt in charge?
United we win
But if you don't have concepts like class (and not just class, of course), it's impossible to understand how society works. Without that you can't have an accurate understanding of history and things like how mass movements grew. It's fine to not classify individuals by class and it's wrong to judge them by class stereotypes but you seem to be extending that to advocating ignorance about the composition of society.
In general, your contributions on this thread appear to be an argument for keeping your head down, and not thinking too much, because everything is basically okay. The counter argument is that things are okay because the British population has historically been politically engaged and demanded representation. If we follow your ethos (and it seems much of the country is), it becomes much easier for an elite to run things in its own interests.
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
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It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
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What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
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His policies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Somebody just posted this:
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/11/simple-question-andrew-neil-leaves-labour-coups-angela-eagle-floundering/
Sick of politicians only looking out of their own personal agenda. If Corbyn is backed, Labour will almost certainly win the next election.
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deluded.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
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It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
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What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
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His policies
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That is NOT policies ! That's his ideals !
Show me a link to the economics of how he's going to do this !
Tell me how he was going to nationalise anything..given at the time of saying this , it was contrary to EU law !!
The UK is the only place in the world I've been to that uses such a class system.
It seems Integrity, honesty and justice don't get you very far in politics . That's the way it is. Corbyn I believe has all these attributes and belief in fairness and a better society etc.
I am not sure he can lead the LP to an election victory though. The media will see to that anyhow by putting a heavy, sharp knife into him multiple times.
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
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It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
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What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
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His policies
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That is NOT policies ! That's his ideals !
Show me a link to the economics of how he's going to do this !
Tell me how he was going to nationalise anything..given at the time of saying this , it was contrary to EU law !!
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You want the inner workings of his policies then, not the actual policies?
I don't think you know the definition of the word policy!
He clearly has them in abundance, if you want a step by step guide then I suggest you do some research.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
I thought I had copy and pasted this link earlier
I fully understand the meaning of policy but sheep like you don't challenge same !! For a politician to say " I want to nationalise blah blah!" is not a policy. A policy should be proven to be implementable ! As I said, show me a link to any of Corbyn's policies hwre he actually says HOW he going to implement them!
I'll bet you can'T !!!
ble
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Lets just all live with our parents and scrounge off them and watch the world fall to pieces as the rich get richer and the poor keep getting poorer while we jerk off to videos of Neymar.
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It's always the media !!! Corbyn makes a kant of himself everytime he opens his mouth....thankfully for him , that ain't often !!
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 41 seconds ago
I wasn't aware of politicians proving their policies to be implementable. They always talk about the end goal.
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They have to gives some figures FFS ! Anyone can say "affordable housing " as any one can say "higher tax" they have to be a little bit more specific to be creditable rather than playing to the masses>
But, never mind * 3 is more allotments !
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comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
I fully understand the meaning of policy but sheep like you don't challenge same !! For a politician to say " I want to nationalise blah blah!" is not a policy. A policy should be proven to be implementable ! As I said, show me a link to any of Corbyn's policies hwre he actually says HOW he going to implement them!
I'll bet you can'T !!!
ble
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I'm not a sheep, I have never voted before in my life because of political corruption.
I'm basing my opinion on Corbyn on actually having met him several times as a news cameraman and as a video producer creating video content for a partner for the stop the war coalition. I have also been able to talk to him off the record about a few things and as far as I can tell he is one of a few decent politicians left in Parliament.
Here is the definition of the word policy....
"a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by an organization or individual."
I provided you with his principles, did I not?
If you want further specifics it's just a google search away.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34306333
When you find an article like this, you then engage your brain and find the policy outline.
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/jeremyforlabour/pages/153/attachments/original/1439891675/Railways_JeremyCorbyn.pdf?1439891675
If you want to be taken seriously in a debate try curing your ignorance by doing a little research.
I'm sure if you research further you will find even more info, or are to fecking lazy?
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I vote, try and discuss issues with friends and family to make these problems more aware, help in some form of charity work if possible like food shelters and generally try and live a fair life without ever trying to f-ck anyone around me.
I try and not be apathetic and just accept the sh-t that's going on around us.
Osbornes budgets have been implemented fantastically haven't they
Are we on our 6th budget in 4 years or something stupid?
And when I do vote I'd like to think I make my choices on what I feel is best for the masses and those in need rather than my own selfish needs which seems to be the case for many.
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comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 second ago
And when I do vote I'd like to think I make my choices on what I feel is best for the masses and those in need rather than my own selfish needs which seems to be the case for many.
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Yep that's dead right. Unfortunately most people seem to care only about what's in their pay-packet, can they get an even bigger house for less tax and the latest fast car or must have gadget and their annual 3 holidays abroad etc etc.
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 2 minutes ago
manutd1982 (U6633)
That's very good. However, there is nothing wrong with serving ones selfish needs. It's life.
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posted on 12/7/16
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 53 seconds ago
If he started digressing and slagging off conservatives and talking in factitious riddles would he be seen as more of a leader?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to the tabloids and MP's, yes.
Who cares that he stood up against the Iraq war, he warned on the very consequences we are dealing with today.
Who cares this his thoughts are about the welfare and health system, education and taxing corporations?
All really matters is his silly suit.
posted on 12/7/16
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 15 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The same PMQ's where he actually asks questions put forward to him by the public?
Who else has done that?
He doesn't get involved with personal attacks, maybe you just want a c*nt in charge?
posted on 12/7/16
United we win
But if you don't have concepts like class (and not just class, of course), it's impossible to understand how society works. Without that you can't have an accurate understanding of history and things like how mass movements grew. It's fine to not classify individuals by class and it's wrong to judge them by class stereotypes but you seem to be extending that to advocating ignorance about the composition of society.
In general, your contributions on this thread appear to be an argument for keeping your head down, and not thinking too much, because everything is basically okay. The counter argument is that things are okay because the British population has historically been politically engaged and demanded representation. If we follow your ethos (and it seems much of the country is), it becomes much easier for an elite to run things in its own interests.
posted on 12/7/16
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
---------------------------------------------------------------
What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His policies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
posted on 12/7/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Somebody just posted this:
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/11/simple-question-andrew-neil-leaves-labour-coups-angela-eagle-floundering/
Sick of politicians only looking out of their own personal agenda. If Corbyn is backed, Labour will almost certainly win the next election.
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deluded.
posted on 12/7/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
---------------------------------------------------------------
What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His policies
------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is NOT policies ! That's his ideals !
Show me a link to the economics of how he's going to do this !
Tell me how he was going to nationalise anything..given at the time of saying this , it was contrary to EU law !!
posted on 12/7/16
The UK is the only place in the world I've been to that uses such a class system.
posted on 12/7/16
It seems Integrity, honesty and justice don't get you very far in politics . That's the way it is. Corbyn I believe has all these attributes and belief in fairness and a better society etc.
I am not sure he can lead the LP to an election victory though. The media will see to that anyhow by putting a heavy, sharp knife into him multiple times.
posted on 12/7/16
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 14 minutes ago
Correct Dave ! he has contributed nothing to UK politics other than confusion. He didn't want to leader and now he has the position ...doesn't know how. Sure, the media slag him ...cos he's such an easy taget ! His performances at PMQs are a disgrace !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is of course better to have a PM who speaks well yet doesn't understand or care about the people of Britain
---------------------------------------------------------------
What !? No, it's better to have someone who leads !! How can Corbyn be a leader, tell me ? What are his policies ? What has Corbyn done to show he cares about the people of Britain ? He didn't give guidance on the referendum ffs !!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His policies
------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is NOT policies ! That's his ideals !
Show me a link to the economics of how he's going to do this !
Tell me how he was going to nationalise anything..given at the time of saying this , it was contrary to EU law !!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You want the inner workings of his policies then, not the actual policies?
I don't think you know the definition of the word policy!
He clearly has them in abundance, if you want a step by step guide then I suggest you do some research.
posted on 12/7/16
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
I thought I had copy and pasted this link earlier
posted on 12/7/16
I fully understand the meaning of policy but sheep like you don't challenge same !! For a politician to say " I want to nationalise blah blah!" is not a policy. A policy should be proven to be implementable ! As I said, show me a link to any of Corbyn's policies hwre he actually says HOW he going to implement them!
I'll bet you can'T !!!
ble
posted on 12/7/16
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posted on 12/7/16
Lets just all live with our parents and scrounge off them and watch the world fall to pieces as the rich get richer and the poor keep getting poorer while we jerk off to videos of Neymar.
posted on 12/7/16
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posted on 12/7/16
It's always the media !!! Corbyn makes a kant of himself everytime he opens his mouth....thankfully for him , that ain't often !!
posted on 12/7/16
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 41 seconds ago
I wasn't aware of politicians proving their policies to be implementable. They always talk about the end goal.
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They have to gives some figures FFS ! Anyone can say "affordable housing " as any one can say "higher tax" they have to be a little bit more specific to be creditable rather than playing to the masses>
But, never mind * 3 is more allotments !
posted on 12/7/16
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posted on 12/7/16
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 2 minutes ago
I fully understand the meaning of policy but sheep like you don't challenge same !! For a politician to say " I want to nationalise blah blah!" is not a policy. A policy should be proven to be implementable ! As I said, show me a link to any of Corbyn's policies hwre he actually says HOW he going to implement them!
I'll bet you can'T !!!
ble
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I'm not a sheep, I have never voted before in my life because of political corruption.
I'm basing my opinion on Corbyn on actually having met him several times as a news cameraman and as a video producer creating video content for a partner for the stop the war coalition. I have also been able to talk to him off the record about a few things and as far as I can tell he is one of a few decent politicians left in Parliament.
Here is the definition of the word policy....
"a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by an organization or individual."
I provided you with his principles, did I not?
If you want further specifics it's just a google search away.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34306333
When you find an article like this, you then engage your brain and find the policy outline.
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/jeremyforlabour/pages/153/attachments/original/1439891675/Railways_JeremyCorbyn.pdf?1439891675
If you want to be taken seriously in a debate try curing your ignorance by doing a little research.
I'm sure if you research further you will find even more info, or are to fecking lazy?
posted on 12/7/16
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posted on 12/7/16
I vote, try and discuss issues with friends and family to make these problems more aware, help in some form of charity work if possible like food shelters and generally try and live a fair life without ever trying to f-ck anyone around me.
I try and not be apathetic and just accept the sh-t that's going on around us.
posted on 12/7/16
Osbornes budgets have been implemented fantastically haven't they
Are we on our 6th budget in 4 years or something stupid?
posted on 12/7/16
And when I do vote I'd like to think I make my choices on what I feel is best for the masses and those in need rather than my own selfish needs which seems to be the case for many.
posted on 12/7/16
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posted on 12/7/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 second ago
And when I do vote I'd like to think I make my choices on what I feel is best for the masses and those in need rather than my own selfish needs which seems to be the case for many.
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Yep that's dead right. Unfortunately most people seem to care only about what's in their pay-packet, can they get an even bigger house for less tax and the latest fast car or must have gadget and their annual 3 holidays abroad etc etc.
posted on 12/7/16
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 2 minutes ago
manutd1982 (U6633)
That's very good. However, there is nothing wrong with serving ones selfish needs. It's life.
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Only if you want it to be
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